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That ain't no lie. I tried going back, absolutely could not NOT taste the silica.

Thanks for the heads up, u41a, I may look at those Nemesis clones when I have the urge to splurge again. I'm flush with juices and devices, the #24 was an impulse buy, a Christmas gift to myself. Really need to just save up and get a Reo like I've been saying for forever now.
I've been using an EHPro Nzonic clone for the last couple of months, and I really enjoy it. It's become my go-to device :)
 

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I need to noalox, I just never think about the stuff until someone mentions it.

It's such a godsend. Miracle of modern chemistry. :) I've got 7 clones on the way, gonna give each a try, see which I like best. Also an innokin VTR. And SVD.


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I've been window-shopping clones. Can't bring myself to bite. Too impatient, too skeptical.

I love my mixed metals Nemesis clone, I am currently digging the M16 clone I got from 101vape. really cannot go wrong with that mod. My only gripe is that the threads show with a 650 and a fuse and barely fits with a kick in it... I pulled the trigger on a few more Hcigar clones from 101vape today. I could probably get the same ones cheaper from FastTech but meh 101vape ships fast and has decent pricing.
I got the Aqua Clone and the Kracken Clone coming from them as well.
The IGO-W from them right now is a great deal for a good performing dripping atty, the only difference with the IGO-W4 is a better looking cap with slightly bigger air holes. I kinda feel bad about my clone army, but on the other hands I own a Provari, I have paid my bill to quality and innovation.
 

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I've got a kayfun built with cotton and micro coils, it's good, but for some reason in my RDA I still prefer ekowool. Seems to offer better flavor in that setup.Tapatalk

Really? Huh, goes to show we all have different taste profiles. I fell in love with ekowool, but after using cotton for a few months, I just could not get over the silica taste. And while the flavor was good with ekowool, I still think cotton is superior. I guess it's like they say, 'whatever works for you' is the right stuff for the job, eh?
 

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I love my mixed metals Nemesis clone, I am currently digging the M16 clone I got from 101vape. really cannot go wrong with that mod. My only gripe is that the threads show with a 650 and a fuse and barely fits with a kick in it... I pulled the trigger on a few more Hcigar clones from 101vape today. I could probably get the same ones cheaper from FastTech but meh 101vape ships fast and has decent pricing.
I got the Aqua Clone and the Kracken Clone coming from them as well.
The IGO-W from them right now is a great deal for a good performing dripping atty, the only difference with the IGO-W4 is a better looking cap with slightly bigger air holes. I kinda feel bad about my clone army, but on the other hands I own a Provari, I have paid my bill to quality and innovation.

Honestly, there is no real reason an original nemesis costs so much. It's 13 dollars worth of threaded, polished metal. And a spring. If they were priced realistically, there wouldn't be any clones. I feel no shame.



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Really? Huh, goes to show we all have different taste profiles. I fell in love with ekowool, but after using cotton for a few months, I just could not get over the silica taste. And while the flavor was good with ekowool, I still think cotton is superior. I guess it's like they say, 'whatever works for you' is the right stuff for the job, eh?

Well, I'm still new with cotton, so time will tell.


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I absolutely LOVE the IGO L. I have a W as well, but for me, a single coil at 1.2 ohms in a dragon coil/cotton setup is perfect. I never have to change coils (dry burn residue off), if the cotton gets 'wonky' or burnt it takes me about a minute to change it, and the flavor and vapor production MADE me cut down to 4mg. I have two IGO Ls and another on the way. My RSST and AGR+ still get use at home ... sometimes ... but my RDA has been used and abused and loved. So, so loved.
 

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The EHPro Nzonic can fit the battery and a Vape Safe, but I haven't tried a kick in it. No threads show, and no battery rattle. The contacts are silver, the pins are adjustable, and the switch is magnetic :)

I have been looking at that clone, where did you get yours?
 

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The EHPro Nzonic can fit the battery and a Vape Safe, but I haven't tried a kick in it. No threads show, and no battery rattle. The contacts are silver, the pins are adjustable, and the switch is magnetic :)

I like the sound of that. Mag switches should be standard. It figures that's the one clone I didn't order.....sheesh.


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I'm looking at the description of the Thug juice.

"Do you like Grape, Watermelon, a bit of sweetner and some menthol? Give this juice a try! "

The grape/watermelon/sweetner combo sounds fantastic but i'm not a fan of menthol. Can anyone say how strong the menthol aspect is? I've had some juices with a hint of menthol which I didn't mind, but if it tastes like a menthol cough drop it will be a total waste for me. Any experiences?
 
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The EHPro Nzonic can fit the battery and a Vape Safe, but I haven't tried a kick in it. No threads show, and no battery rattle. The contacts are silver, the pins are adjustable, and the switch is magnetic :)

That sounds like a great mod, I will have to check it out.
 

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Honestly, there is no real reason an original nemesis costs so much. It's 13 dollars worth of threaded, polished metal. And a spring. If they were priced realistically, there wouldn't be any clones. I feel no shame.Tapatalk

It's all about who is making it and where. A craftsman in Greece who does limited runs is going to charge a hell of a lot more than a Chinese outfit with their .... resources. Another reason I haven't gone the clone route, personally.
 

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I'm looking at the description of the Thug juice.

"Do you like Grape, Watermelon, a bit of sweetner and some menthol? Give this juice a try! "

The grape/watermelon/sweetner combo sounds fantastic but i'm not a fan of menthol. Can anyone say how strong the mtnhol aspect is? I've had some juices with a hint of menthol which I didn't mind, but if it tastes like a menthol cough drop it will be a total waste for me. Any experiences?

Honestly, it's more of the 'feel' of menthol than straight up menthol. At least for me. If you hate menthol flavor, or the feel of it, I'd steer clear. You might contact them and see if they can whip up a non-menthol version. Ya never know until you ask.
 

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I'm looking at the description of the Thug juice.

"Do you like Grape, Watermelon, a bit of sweetner and some menthol? Give this juice a try! "

The grape/watermelon/sweetner combo sounds fantastic but i'm not a fan of menthol. Can anyone say how strong the mtnhol aspect is? I've had some juices with a hint of menthol which I didn't mind, but if it tastes like a menthol cough drop it will be a total waste for me. Any experiences?

It's more than a hint of menthol, quite a bit more fresh too. After a long steep, the menthol calms down a lot, but is still quite pronounced. It is one of my favorite juices though, in the top 5 for sure.
 

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I'm looking at the description of the Thug juice.

"Do you like Grape, Watermelon, a bit of sweetner and some menthol? Give this juice a try! "

The grape/watermelon/sweetner combo sounds fantastic but i'm not a fan of menthol. Can anyone say how strong the menthol aspect is? I've had some juices with a hint of menthol which I didn't mind, but if it tastes like a menthol cough drop it will be a total waste for me. Any experiences?
The menthol is pretty strong, so it seems like it might not be a good choice for you. Have you looked at Hawk Sauce? That is a similar fruit, but with just a bit of mint instead of the menthol punch of Thug Juice.
 

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Honestly, it's more of the 'feel' of menthol than straight up menthol. At least for me. If you hate menthol flavor, or the feel of it, I'd steer clear. You might contact them and see if they can whip up a non-menthol version. Ya never know until you ask.

Thanks for the advice. Contacting them sounds like a good idea since it seems like their juices are made to order. If they can't accommodate my request it's probably worth it to order a 15ml bottle anyway, it's only $5 so not a big deal and if I don't like it I have some friends who would gladly take it off my hands :)
 

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It's all about who is making it and where. A craftsman in Greece who does limited runs is going to charge a hell of a lot more than a Chinese outfit with their .... resources. Another reason I haven't gone the clone route, personally.

I understand that. They should get their money. I don't dig straight stealing of logos and such, but mechanical designs I've no issue with. It's actually kind of embarrassing to walk around with a clone that has cloned logo/name on it. And, it's unethical.


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you're paying for innovation which I feel is going to go down the tubes if china keeps pumpin out these Counterfits as fast as they are made. Why would anyone want to pump their money,time, blood, sweat, and years into designing and producing something that's going to get stolen and massed produced where the masses will choose they stolen version over the original.


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