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Oh, absolutely. I don't think there's an appreciable difference in the actual function between the two - either of them will keep the O2 out just fine. Was just pointing out the reason why argon is considered an alternative at all.

I did flush the air out of a few bottles with the nitrogen. It is not heavier than air so unless you set up for it you will have the chance that some O2 remains in the bottle.
 

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I did flush the air out of a few bottles with the nitrogen. It is not heavier than air so unless you set up for it you will have the chance that some O2 remains in the bottle.

Right, which is why argon is considered the better option, bringing me back to my original point. :) As with everything, you can go cheaper and have more messing around to do, or more expensive with less messing around.
 

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You wanna talk about overpriced housing, I live in a three story 2100 sf house, very tall and skinny, we in tha hood refer to them as bird houses, way out in the burbs of Vancouver, would $450k startle anyone?

Not me, I've heard about Canada's housing costs. Especially British Columbia. Also heard about half the people in BC are growing.. uhh, nevermind. :p
 

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Oh, absolutely. I don't think there's an appreciable difference in the actual function between the two - either of them will keep the O2 out just fine. Was just pointing out the reason why argon is considered an alternative at all.

CO2 is the best - heavy & cheap, but for some reason wine makers don't want their Bordeauxs sparkling. Not sure what effect carbonic acid would have on a nicotine mixture, or even how much PG or VG would even absorb.
 

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We have a bad problem with californication as well. They do not like living there because of the expense they created with the endless stream of government overhead and regulation so they move here and promote more of the same... Not all of them are bad people though.

I was thinking the same on inert gas. You can get either in preservation grade fairly easily, they are available as home preservation kits for food and beverage. I have a few large nitrogen bottles, they are filled with medical grade because the place I buy gasses at does not want to stock several grades and it is cheap. I have a large bottle of argon as well, it is definitely not food or medical grade. Just the standard welding grade. Argon wine preservation kits are cheap though.

I figured I would bag one less deer this year to save room for nicotine reserves :)

All in all, there's no other place I'd want to live in the states though. Part of it political, part of it geographical.
 

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Right, which is why argon is considered the better option, bringing me back to my original point. :) As with everything, you can go cheaper and have more messing around to do, or more expensive with less messing around.

My vote is argon as well.
 

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All in all, there's no other place I'd want to live in the states though. Part of it political, part of it geographical.

I like it well enough when visiting, enough to look at buying some land. Price was a partial detractor, the main thing is all that snow.

It goes back to my theory that humans should not live where there are no native palm trees.

I grew up in the panhandle of Texas. Did my fair share of shoveling. Moved when I was old enough to. I enjoy snow, I enjoy winter, it's really cool every 3 or 4 years when we take a vacation to remind us just why we moved away from it. It takes me about a week of dealing with it before I remember, oh hey, this is why snow sucks.
 

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Ah, totally refreshed.

Meanwhile, in hoarder country:

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Currently working my way though Skyrim, I am cheap so I waited for the steam sale for the game of the year edition with all the DLC included.

I typically do not care for single player games.

I play EVE Online where I am a notorious pirate, a spy in several organizations, and a general interstellar low life. It is a really fun space ship sandbox, enjoyable only if you like brutal PVP, the PVE aspects are shallow and rudimentary. It can be extremely frustrating at the lower levels in the game.

I play a few first person shooters from time to time, Mechwarrior Online sometimes, Hawken sometimes, a flight sim MMO sometimes, I did play World of tanks some but got bored with it, the grind is strong at the higher levels. I am kinda looking forward to Elder Scrolls Online but will hold out on building any excitement for it.
 

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EVE is amazing. One of those games you have to find stuff to keep you immersed, and if you try and fly solo you are most likely going to die of boredom. Never played a game where the social aspect was the game. Awesome stuff, and the PVP is intense. I may re-sub one of these days.

Yeah, right Fear? That's not my collection, no sir. I have about 1/4 that size of a 'collection', maybe.
 

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Currently working my way though Skyrim, I am cheap so I waited for the steam sale for the game of the year edition with all the DLC included.

I typically do not care for single player games.

I play EVE Online where I am a notorious pirate, a spy in several organizations, and a general interstellar low life. It is a really fun space ship sandbox, enjoyable only if you like brutal PVP, the PVE aspects are shallow and rudimentary. It can be extremely frustrating at the lower levels in the game.

I play a few first person shooters from time to time, Mechwarrior Online sometimes, Hawken sometimes, a flight sim MMO sometimes, I did play World of Tanks some but got bored with it, the grind is strong at the higher levels. I am kinda looking forward to Elder Scrolls Online but will hold out on building any excitement for it.

i heard a lot of good stuff about skyrim, but everyone always goes back to warcraft. that's my only game of choice. at first i was like "this game is stupid" then 5+ years later.. here i am still playing it lol. i tend to play at a pretty hardcore level, and would be even more "hardcore" if my work schedule allowed it, which it does not. ><
 
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