There’s a few other masters out there who drop in here sometimes, check out this Masterpiece:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ox-metal-heads-back-stock-19.html#post5618740 , Billy has been building them for over a year, just got around to sharing the drawings publically here. we all know who the real masters are they are just doing it and not whining about who “stole” their ideas.
I’m thinking our friends at GV saw those drawings long before we did

, that’s the way Billy [and Dan] work, wise (and thankfully STILL young enough) enough to teach us young’ns without asking for the credit.
OK enough of the gushy fan boy stuff Charlie becouse you've been stuck up here for over a month on this rig, I'll man up
Your sure right kwcharlie:
There is so much talent in this forum. Being a noob, I have devoted countless hours reading threads and have only scratched the surface of the wealth of info. You just
have to admire Billy's work. IMO, mind you, Its obvious where China is getting all the ideas. Look at the recent released SmokTech V-Max..Come on now, who are we kidding here. Its a double edge sword, and a very diificult call to make.
American and/or European genius designs and builds it and sells it. Problem is, they cant manufacture them fast enough to meet demand. Always sold out within minutes of going live. They are also costly. Rightfully so, for a handcrafted piece of art work.
Now we have the Chinese. They take these designs, tool up, and MASS produce them. Usually with much cheaper material. The good news for the vast majority of us is ,you can actually own one.
Case in point: I recently scored a P+18650 from Super T. It took me
MONTHS of tracking Super T's forum to catch one.
Yeah, it was pricey, but I will cherish it even more. I will
never do that with 99.9% of the other vaping supplies I want or need.
So I have to ask myself, which side of the fence do I straddle? Handmade American/European stuff thats near impossible to get, or readily available Chinese knockoffs made by the trainload?
Can't love em', cant hate em' either....