Must we call cigarettes "analogs"?

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Charlie C

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O.K., despite my joint date I'm still really a newbie. (Long story short, first tried vaping a while back, quit after being disappointed with what was available at the time, giving it another go.) So I know I'm in no position to be making demands. Just my two cents, but seeing the term "analogs" for cigs bothers me a little. My other big hobby besides consuming nicotine is listening to vinyl records, a.k.a. analog sound. So seeing that term used in a disparaging sense just rubs me the wrong way. :)

I too am an audiophile but choose to be concerned about things that well, really bother me.
The term analog is used for many reasons and in part because vapers don't like the term cigarette OR smoke.
It's just a name.
Tell your brother he has good taste.
Records= good sound
CDs = not so good

OK, back on track now and good to have you here.
 

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I too am an audiophile but choose to be concerned about things that well, really bother me.
The term analog is used for many reasons and in part because vapers don't like the term cigarette OR smoke.
It's just a name.
Tell your brother he has good taste.
Records= good sound
CDs = not so good

OK, back on track now and good to have you here.

I'm not sure what my brother has to do with it. ??? :)
 
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I had no trouble converting to digital music. The first CD I bought knocked my socks off. I had already tired of having to wash LP's to make the snaps and pops go away. Being a musician all my life gave me the reference point for what music sounds like from the stage and in front of a band. As sterile as CDs are, they accurately represent the sounds that the individual instruments make (if you have a decent sound system).

I like the term electronic cigarette. It's what I tell people when they ask about it. The electronic cigarette allowed me to stop smoking tobacco cigarettes. It's simple and it uses a paradigm that people are used to. I don't smoke cigarettes anymore and my electronic version, while not better than using no nicotine products, is many orders of magnitude safer and better than the ones that burn and put smoke particles into my lungs.
 

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Analog sound has decay, whereas digital sound is a 1 or a 0 (on or off).

Analog sound has it's advantages. The distortion in analog recordings is very different from the distortion in digital recordings.

That being said, if I want to hear the human voice a cappela then digital is the only way to go.

 

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The Federal Analog Act, 21 U.S.C. § 813, is a section of the United States Controlled Substances Act which allowed any chemical "substantially similar" to a controlled substance listed in Schedule I or II to be treated as if it were also listed in those schedules, but only if intended for human consumption. These similar substances are often called designer drugs.
 

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I had no trouble converting to digital music. The first CD I bought knocked my socks off.
I hear ya there, DaveP!
My 1st CD was a thrilling moment (similar to my first stereophonic headphones).
I wasn't sure the CD player was working, as I heard no hiss or hum I'd been accustomed to, so I cranked the volume just a tad too high... and it made me jump when the track started, LOL! The sound was so crisp and the separation between instruments was awesome. I could pick out the individual instruments easily and heard stuff in the recording I hadn't noticed were even there in familiar songs.

Nowadays, however, most CDs sound like total garbage, due to record companies pressuring recording engineers into making them sound as loud as possible, killing the incredible dynamics present in the music. For more info, Google "Loudness War".

And, I should make "Sorry for going off topic" my new sig. :S
 

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I am still very new at all of this and stay right here on this forum. I just can't help forming options Human nature I guess. I wonder if anyone has thought of it from this perspective. In my case the really derogatory terms are difficult. Since I have so recently made the choice to use a PV as opposed to tobacco. I am probably still stinky,maybe my house reeks like a sewer, perhaps my car should be crushed and thrown away, etc. But the last thing I want or need to do is feel bad about myself for a habit that I would still be defending if I had not been looking for a way to ride in other peoples cars and still get my nicotine. It was a fluke. So I'm not up for terms like stink free, stinkies, death stick, coffin nails, and all the rest. Just makes me feel defensive in the same way that having a doctor pressuring me to take Chantex or a non-smoker wrinkling up their nose and looking down at me has always made me feel.

I would rather keep my sense of excitement over finding a fun and enjoyable way to do what I've always done in much healthier way. When and if my sense of smell does comes back I will deal with it one step at a time. Until then you couldn't make me give up this form of nicotine replacement any easier than I gave up tobacco. I may not like the realization that I was offensive to others but I certainly will not waste my time feeling awful about that many years of my life.

I hope that I never forget what it feels like to be a tobacco smoker. It started as just a cool thing to do. It was promoted, pushed and almost demanded of us. Unfortunately when the health risks became apparent it was too late for a lot of us. Over the years we ended up being treated like some kind of subhuman species. The resentment of feeling that and the never ending guilt trip makes for some very thick brick walls.

Whew... sorry if this was too long and a little too emotional. Not usually my style. It is wise to remember that words hold great power and should be used carefully. I enjoy this forum very much and regardless of the terminology used I understand that it isn't meant as a personal assault. Now I simply need to shop for some more nicotine replacement liquid. I want more juice!!!! lol
 

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Just rember that a lot of us are stil holding on to the vinyl records. I like the term. It sound better than death sticks. Or coffin nails. IMHO//

As someone who is also a vinyl fan, and an out-of-control audiophile, I understand what you are saying, but its not the same.

The reason we call vinyl (and RTR tapes) "analog" is to differentiate it from CDs, MP3s and other digital music formats.

E-cigs are VERY different from combustion cigarettes. But the fact is that 99% of e-cigs are NOT "digital" devices any more than a flashlight is "digital" just because it uses a battery and an LED bulb.

Most e-cigs are, in fact, "analog" devices in the purest electronics sense of the word. They heat a heating element up with a battery, use no power regulation, have no digital circuitry, and do nothing to the electrical signal to process or alter it. So calling combustion cigs "analog" is a little disingenuous, at least if you are a person who believes that words actually have meaning...

Now, there ARE some e-cigs that ARE truly digital devices--any VV or VW device that used PWM, or other signal processing to control the power to the coil is, technically, a "digital device".

Perhaps we should't be calling combustion cigs "analog", but rather calling APVs "digital"...

And the truth is that calling combustion cigs "analog" is pretty much a bit of "internal jargon" that is only used around other e-cig users. We understand it because it is part of our subcultural language. But most smokers and non-smokers who aren't in the e0cig community have NO IDEA what you mean when you call a combustion cig an "analog"...

It will be interesting to see how Big Tobacco differentiates between electronic cigarettes and old-fashioned combustion cigs. I think the terminology that companies like Lorillard and RJR use in their marketing campaigns in the future will set the standard for what words we use to describe these things.

We are a niche market. We (the hobbyists, aficionados and experimenters) are a TINY percentage of the e-cig market an in the future, we will be an even SMALLER percentage. So the terms WE use are pretty much insignificant, and probably will not have any significant impact on the way our language evolves to describe these different things--such a linguistic standard will ultimately be controlled by those who control the language at large--the media, activist groups, and PR firms...
 
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