I assume no claim to the recipe, ratio or otherwise. I am like you, another guinea pig in the scheme of things.
My Boba's clone
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I assume no claim to the recipe, ratio or otherwise. I am like you, another guinea pig in the scheme of things.
I assume no claim to the recipe, ratio or otherwise. I am like you, another guinea pig in the scheme of things.
Ah, right on. Sorry for the mix up.
Sorry for the long delay in my promised results ... life happens
Here are the seven (plus a Gorilla juice) Clone recipes that were tested by at least 14 vapers. The real Boba's was always vaped first and all others were tried against it and never in the same order.
RBA dripping atties were used.
Other important notes,
- not all flavorings were 100% VG
- all bases were 12mg at 100% VG
- 15% flavor to base
- B&M Plus = Ecig Express
- Tobacco Express Captain = Ecig Express
- Black Honey Tobacco = Ecig Express
- Coconut = Capella
- Cotton Candy = LorAnn
- Chocolate Fudge Brownie = Capella
- Cinnamon Danish Swirl = Capella
- Graham Cracker = Capella
- Bannana Nutbread = FlavorArt
- Cherry = Canvape Pro Series?
- Almond Oil = LorAnn
- Sweetner = Ethyl Maltol Crystals in VG
- Steep time one week through to three weeks by end of trial
Boba's Clone #1
Black and Mile Plus 60.0%
Cotton Candy 20.0%
Coconut 20.0%
Boba's Clone #2
Black and Mile Plus 42.9%
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 21.4%
Graham Cracker 21.4%
Coconut 7.1%
Vinegar 7.1%
Boba's Clone #3
Black and Mile Plus 42.9%
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 21.4%
Almond oil 21.4%
Coconut 7.1%
Vinegar 7.1%
Boba's Clone #4
Black and Mile Plus 71.4%
Tobacco Express Captian 14.3%
Coconut 14.3%
Boba's Clone #5
Black and Mile Plus 25.0%
Chocolate Fudge Brownie 25.0%
Coconut 12.5%
Vape Wizard 37.5%
Snuck this one in there to mix the taste buds up
Gorilla juice Clone #6
Black and Mile Plus 30.0%
Black Honey Tobacco 30.0%
Banana Nutbread 30.0%
Sweetener 10.0%
Boba's Clone #7
Black and Mile Plus 40.0%
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 20.0%
Almond oil 20.0%
Coconut 7.1%
Graham Cracker 7.1%
Vinegar 5.8%
Boba's Clone #8
Tobacco Blend (Alc) 25.0%
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 20.0%
Almond oil 10.0%
Cherry 15.0%
Graham Cracker 20.0%
Cotton Candy 10.0%
The results for "rate which is most like the orginal" scored in the following order (most to least);
#7, #3, #4, #8, #2 #5, #1, #8
Some comments;
#1 "Tastes more like Bounty Hunter"
#2 "Flat, almost tasteless"
#3 "needs more cinamon"
#4 "not boba's but can I order 100 ml?"
#5 "Yuk"
#6 "I think you messed up, that's Gorilla juice, no really."
#7 "Don't tell anyone, ssh!"
#8 "Like it better than Boba's"
Last few days I'm planing to order flavouringd and all the time I have a feeling that I'm looking wrong receipt. And than I again today came to this post and read it again.
My confusion was about comments that #7 is best clon... but than I know while I was reading everyone was mentioning LO almond AND aherry, but there's no cherry in #7 that I'm looking and planing to purchase flavors... also I'm going back and forth and always left in confusion why is #7 graded with #1 "Tastes more like Bounty Hunter".
And I believe that finally I figured out my mistake... are you guys talking about #8 when talking about #7 Boba's clone? Now I see that #6 should have been Gorilla's clone, so maybe you are counting without #6? Help, please.
I can't speak for anyone else, but, I was speaking of #7. I did make mention many many posts back that I would try and add cherry to #7, and the major difference between the two, I'd say, is the tobacco used.
When I mixed it, I mixed it in a smaller overall total flavor %, and adjusted certain flavorings based on my experience with each individual flavor. While I can sort of taste a certain similarity, there is something greatly missing, that, or, the ratios are a little out of sync (compared to Boba's).
With the #7, the almond is relatively strong, and the black cigar (black and mild) gives it more of a chocolately feel/taste, almost like chocolate milk with almond
As I previously said, I do enjoy it very much. With my next incoming WL order, I plan on making a variation of Slohand's #7, and will continue to do so until something comes close enough.
When I mixed it, I mixed it in a smaller overall total flavor %, and adjusted certain flavorings based on my experience with each individual flavor. While I can sort of taste a certain similarity, there is something greatly missing, that, or, the ratios are a little out of sync (compared to Boba's).
With the #7, the almond is relatively strong, and the black cigar (black and mild) gives it more of a chocolately feel/taste, almost like chocolate milk with almond
As I previously said, I do enjoy it very much. With my next incoming WL order, I plan on making a variation of Slohand's #7, and will continue to do so until something comes close enough.
I can't speak for anyone else, but, I was speaking of #7. I did make mention many many posts back that I would try and add cherry to #7, and the major difference between the two, I'd say, is the tobacco used.
When I mixed it, I mixed it in a smaller overall total flavor %, and adjusted certain flavorings based on my experience with each individual flavor. While I can sort of taste a certain similarity, there is something greatly missing, that, or, the ratios are a little out of sync (compared to Boba's).
With the #7, the almond is relatively strong, and the black cigar (black and mild) gives it more of a chocolately feel/taste, almost like chocolate milk with almond
As I previously said, I do enjoy it very much. With my next incoming WL order, I plan on making a variation of Slohand's #7, and will continue to do so until something comes close enough.
I haven't tried the number 7. But I can definitely vouch for the LOR Natural Cherry! I've got a pretty killer mix in the works, just need to work out the overall flavor percentage to make it pop a bit more. I added some FA Tuscan and took out the snus NET.
TFA Tob Blend(alc) 2%
TFA TE Blend (with seedman's commercial) 2%
FA Tuscan Ultimate 3%
Vz Black Cigar 0.5%
TFA Graham Cracker 3%
TFA Cinnamon Danish 3%
LOR Nat. Cherry 3%
EM 2%
FA Vape Wizard 2 drops (disposable 3 mL pipette) per 10 mL
Apple Cider Vinegar 3 drops per 10 mL
I'll say it again, it's not Bobas but its darn tasty. Hits the same spots as Bobas for me. I mixed 75/25 vg/pg this time and the flavor is a little on the light side. I love the current proportion of flavorings, just need to get the flavor to pop more. Are there any tricks to get a "richer" vape without adding much flavoring? More ACV? Sweeteners?
I can't speak for anyone else, but, I was speaking of #7. I did make mention many many posts back that I would try and add cherry to #7, and the major difference between the two, I'd say, is the tobacco used.
When I mixed it, I mixed it in a smaller overall total flavor %, and adjusted certain flavorings based on my experience with each individual flavor. While I can sort of taste a certain similarity, there is something greatly missing, that, or, the ratios are a little out of sync (compared to Boba's).
With the #7, the almond is relatively strong, and the black cigar (black and mild) gives it more of a chocolately feel/taste, almost like chocolate milk with almond
As I previously said, I do enjoy it very much. With my next incoming WL order, I plan on making a variation of Slohand's #7, and will continue to do so until something comes close enough.
Thank you for your answer.
Anyone else?
I'm from Serbia so I need to be sure about what I need so I can order everything together. Shipping is not affordable, 99% of vendors ship only via Priority mail even though I would be ok First Class, I used it a lot of times and only thing is the time... but I can wait 7 more days than with Priority.
And also if I forget to order something, I will need to give money again for shipping... not to meniton waiting for them to arrive while I'm having almost everything for Boba's clone infront of me.
It was mentioned at the start of my post which recipe I followed. - #7
Taste is subjective. What I find in one ejuice you may find something totally off the wall. However, this was the only recipe to date I have ever mixed myself. The results, for me at least, hit every note on my Boba experience. Now I have seen others, and even myself mentioned, it is not 100% similar. It is definitely close enough, that it will curb my cravings until I can get my hands on the real deal.
I did not try it with cherry. I am curious how it would turn out with that thrown in though. I hope anyone that made their mix will comment back on the results.
Anyways, the flavors I ordered, were all the recommended one's above. For the almond oil, I found some in my local supermarket. That being said, UPS still has my LorAnn oil, which should be here Monday. I plan to make another 10-20ml with that. Will it taste different? Who knows? I got a feeling, my palette isn't refined enough that it will make much difference.
- Nicotine = 36 mg/ml in USP VG from Xtreme Vaping, cut in half with 100% Vg to make 18mg
- 15% flavor to base
- B&M Plus = Ecig Express
- Cinnamon Danish Swirl = Capella
- Almond Oil = LorAnn (I have only used Spectrum Almond oil but do have Lor waiting in the mail)
- Graham Cracker = Capella
- Coconut = Capella
- Reg ole white vinegar from super market
My results may not be as accurate, or even on the same page as everyone else, as this truly was my first endeavor to DIY. I am pleased with the results, which is all that it boils down to.
Hope that helped.
Taste is subjective. What I find in one ejuice you may find something totally off the wall. However, this was the only recipe to date I have ever mixed myself. The results, for me at least, hit every note on my Boba experience. Now I have seen others, and even myself mentioned, it is not 100% similar. It is definitely close enough, that it will curb my cravings until I can get my hands on the real deal.
I did not try it with cherry. I am curious how it would turn out with that thrown in though. I hope anyone that made their mix will comment back on the results.
Anyways, the flavors I ordered, were all the recommended one's above. For the almond oil, I found some in my local supermarket. That being said, UPS still has my LorAnn oil, which should be here Monday. I plan to make another 10-20ml with that. Will it taste different? Who knows? I got a feeling, my palette isn't refined enough that it will make much difference.
- Nicotine = 36 mg/ml in USP VG from Xtreme Vaping, cut in half with 100% Vg to make 18mg
- 15% flavor to base
- B&M Plus = Ecig Express
- Cinnamon Danish Swirl = Capella
- Almond Oil = LorAnn (I have only used Spectrum Almond oil but do have Lor waiting in the mail)
- Graham Cracker = Capella
- Coconut = Capella
- Reg ole white vinegar from super market
My results may not be as accurate, or even on the same page as everyone else, as this truly was my first endeavor to DIY. I am pleased with the results, which is all that it boils down to.
Hope that helped.
Just for clarification you want to use Apple Cider Vinegar, ACV.
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I just mixed up a batch of #7, and though it hasnt had time to steep, I went ahead and gave it a taste. Right now I am tasting super bitter cherry. My recipe was not exactly like the one listed, as I used regular Black n Mile, and a few flavors were not the exact brand. The almond oil seemed to be most dominant, so I split the 30ml I made with another 30ml base and added the other ingredients excluding the almond oil to balance it out. Hopefully it works.
I've tried both, and at less than 1%, I don't know how anyone can tell the difference.
The purpose of the vinegar is as an acid .... it breaks down the flavors that your using in the recipe to give it that "boba's" magic. At least that has been my experience thus far. I've been doing a ton more experimenting and will be back to post results .... these things take time .... glad everyone else is have fun with the experiments of their own. I'm down to the last 2ml of real Boba's and I've been savoring it like a fine Rothchild wine comparing it to my latest experiments. I have had difficulties in duplicating that ..... baked graham crust flavor(?) .... that seems to be lacking in my recipes when compared directly to the real McCoy. I do have some apple cider vinegar on hand, maybe that's the ticket .... back to the lab.
comparing it to my latest experiments. I have had difficulties in duplicating that ..... baked graham crust flavor(?) .... that seems to be lacking in my recipes when compared directly to the real McCoy. I do have some apple cider vinegar on hand, maybe that's the ticket .... back to the lab.I'm on batch #8, with many more to try. This one is good, but it's not Boba's, it's missing the pipe tobacco flavor, sweetness, and overall flavor dominance (likely due to the low percentages). SloHand, curious to hear if you can tell a difference with ACV vs. white vinegar in your mixes.
Batch #8 12mg at 100%VG
TA Blend ALC (TFA) 0.75%
Almond Natural (LA) 2%
Cherry Natural (LA) 5%
Maple Natural (LA) 1%
Creamy Caramel Natural (LA) 3%
Toffee Natural (LA) 3%
White Vinegar 1%
Distilled Water 4%
Notes from the other batches: TA Blend at 1% or above wasn't pleasant. Almond at 3% kind of coated the tongue oddly. Maple above 1% was obnoxious. Cherry below 5% is barely noticeable. Future batches will increase Caramel and/or Toffee. Vinegar as an acid is to cut the pH from the alkaline nic. Water at 5% is a little too thin.
Batch #8 12mg at 100%VG
TA Blend ALC (TFA) 0.75%
Almond Natural (LA) 2%
Cherry Natural (LA) 5%
Maple Natural (LA) 1%
Creamy Caramel Natural (LA) 3%
Toffee Natural (LA) 3%
White Vinegar 1%
Distilled Water 4%
Notes from the other batches: TA Blend at 1% or above wasn't pleasant. Almond at 3% kind of coated the tongue oddly. Maple above 1% was obnoxious. Cherry below 5% is barely noticeable. Future batches will increase Caramel and/or Toffee. Vinegar as an acid is to cut the pH from the alkaline nic. Water at 5% is a little too thin.
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I haven't tried the apple cider vinegar yet but I'll let you know when I do.
I actually prefer apple cider vinegar. It's a little sweeter. I was vaping away on a juice I loaded up with it and when I came back in the room it smelled like that super sweet frosting that comes in the plastic can. I think it must add to the flavor illusion that Boba's creates. Also isn't vinegar a base? Same principle though, it's on the extreme end so it lowers the ph of any acids in the juice.
Vinegar is an acid, acetic acid, not a base. The nicotine is the alkaline ingredient. How much ACV by percentage are you using that you can actually taste it?
I'm leery of using ACV as it kind of defeats the purpose of the vinegar, which is to balance the pH of the nicotine (ACV is less acidic than distilled vinegar, a pH of around 4 vs. around 2.
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If I recall correctly from my chemistry days the weaker acid should be a better buffer, and give you more room for error. It would be harder to tip the scale too far to the acidic side.
Big ol' thread if you need more information...every other ingredient added to the nic is already a weak acid, so why bother if you would either have to use a larger percentage, or get no effect with the weaker acid. pH is factored by ratio of the solution, it's not a flat additive calculation.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/252238-vinegar.html
1% distilled vinegar works well, ACV would require a higher volume for the same effect, and increase impurities, especially considering ACV is frequently unpasteurized.
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