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Earlier spoke about using Meade (wine)in late December. I made my 1st of 5 batches on Jan. 19, 2014. Placed in a vibratory mixer at 5 minutes per hour for 72 hours and let steep untill March19, 2014. All I can say is.... WOW....I found my best result and an extremely close find. Not many seemed interested so I stayed in the background.
Vg Base
Vg base tobacco at 18mg target
3-tobacco flavors
Carmel candy
Meade used 10%- made in Michigan-name-(Kuhnhenn)
Totol flavors 20%-Meade is 20%-totol additives to vg 40%
If you wantt to read up on the meade I used look here...
Http://RateBeer.com/beer/KuhnHenn-Bourbon-Barrel-French-toast-meade/120401/

There is no question to me. Its up to each owns individual taste, so dable with your tobaccos to your liking, ...but remember if it is missing that raisen note you want just add a little more Meade...(acid to body ratio)... no more than 2%

Thank you for the follow up. And as a note, just because folks may not express interest openly doesn't mean some are not interested. I found your theory to be of solid thought, and very out-of-the-box. Great job!
 

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Earlier spoke about using Meade (wine)in late December. I made my 1st of 5 batches on Jan. 19, 2014. Placed in a vibratory mixer at 5 minutes per hour for 72 hours and let steep untill March19, 2014. All I can say is.... WOW....I found my best result and an extremely close find. Not many seemed interested so I stayed in the background.
Vg Base
Vg base tobacco at 18mg target
3-tobacco flavors
Carmel candy
Meade used 10%- made in Michigan-name-(Kuhnhenn)
Totol flavors 20%-Meade is 20%-totol additives to vg 40%
If you wantt to read up on the meade I used look here...
Http://RateBeer.com/beer/KuhnHenn-Bourbon-Barrel-French-toast-meade/120401/

There is no question to me. Its up to each owns individual taste, so dable with your tobaccos to your liking, ...but remember if it is missing that raisen note you want just add a little more Meade...(acid to body ratio)... no more than 2%

I am interested in your opinions / theory. But the link didn't work for me. It says that they might have moved or is temporarily down. I'll try again later.
 
Sorry..do to my profession I was called to work an unable to complete my script concerning 'Kuhnhenn Meade' as stated above. 1st off...This is far from a final summary and I don't want peaple to think this is a viable solution and/or spend money, time, and material on what may or may not be an elusive ingrediant. All 5 batches (using same base element %‘s) were diluted with 1 DIFFERENT TYPE of 'Meade' at a totol of 18% and totol flavor of 22%. 4 of the 5 batches were wasted material and nothing more than diluted base element and minimal flavor. The ' Kuhnhenn' Meade was completely different offering off notes on inhale and exhale resembling Bobas but not a strong honey or Cinnamon Danish Swirl flavor. My %'s are way..way off. Note to self...believe I must increase Honey tobaccco and add AP in a batch ...possability??? Did I enjoy the vape? It was an extremely good vape (will keep) but definately not Bobas.
Time to play again in the mixing lab and see if I can improve upon what I have. Another
60 day waiting period......Question concerning vinager as a dilute...taste being subjective is it possable a persons variant body acidic level although stable by nature may/may not give a different varient 'raisen' note toward flavor??? If you have an answer please drop me a note. Also I am trying the 'meade' aspect but what type of vinager are you using..white..grape..cherry..ect?? Thanks Tinnman:)
 
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Has anyone ever tried adding cola to their mix? While I've never had Boba's, I do remember Gorilla Juice fondly. I've been reading the last few threads about "wine flavor", acidity, "candy flavor", etc.

On a different site, there was one reviewer who stated "Yep, Cola, that is the secret ingredient to Boba's"...... mmhhh
 

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I ran across something recently and I want you guys to tell me if it's something to build on or not. I mixed up 5% Hangsen Indian with 5% Capella Coconut. It's not 100% yet but it's close. I get the graham, rasin, spicy tobacco, and the light coconut flavor that I get from BB. Neither one of these flavors taste anything like BB when mixed alone. They mutate into this completely different flavor after steeping a day or more. I'm going to try Hangsen Turkish and/or Arabic next, maybe Hotel. If you have any of these flavors give it a try and tell me if I'm crazy and hallucinating or not.
 
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I ran across something recently and I want you guys to tell me if it's something to build on or not. I mixed up 5% Hangsen Indian with 5% Capella Coconut. It's not 100% yet but it's close. I get the graham, rasin, spicy tobacco, and the light coconut flavor that I get from BB. Neither one of these flavors taste anything like BB when mixed alone. They mutate into this completely different flavor after steeping a day or more. I'm going to try Hangsen Turkish and/or Arabic next, maybe Hotel. If you have any of these flavors give it a try and tell me if I'm crazy and hallucinating or not.

I do not have any of these flavors, but you may be on to something. I have seen others say Hangsen, but not the Cap Coconut. The only issue is that Ben has said he sources all ingredients in the US now, I think. Does that mean made in US? I'm not sure, but that would be hard to do with Hangsen.
 

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No no no. It's not steeping. That is the smell I get from a fresh bought one in 2012. And these new bottles were steeped for 3 months. Still not a hint to converting to the old one. I'm telling u its different. I was 90% sure now I'm 100%.

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Is it possible the original Boba recipe contained flavors with "custard notes" and they reformulated without disclosing this?
 

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I do not have any of these flavors, but you may be on to something. I have seen others say Hangsen, but not the Cap Coconut. The only issue is that Ben has said he sources all ingredients in the US now, I think. Does that mean made in US? I'm not sure, but that would be hard to do with Hangsen.

I'm familiar with everything Ben has said about BB ad nauseum but it is just too damn close for me to ignore it. I also don't want to be another in the long line of "I got it for sure this time" guys so I'm cautious not to get my hopes up.
 
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I'm familiar with everything Ben has said about BB ad nauseum but it is just too damn close for me to ignore it. I also don't want to be another in the long line of "I got it for sure this time" guys so I'm cautious not to get my hopes up.

Good to hear! Keep us updated!
 

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I'm familiar with everything Ben has said about BB ad nauseum but it is just too damn close for me to ignore it. I also don't want to be another in the long line of "I got it for sure this time" guys so I'm cautious not to get my hopes up.

I've been holding off on posting my findings just for this same reason.....

I have found some interesting info in my search though. Including this
http://youtu.be/UPfpzob6dmU
Ha. I couldn't resist...sorry Ben...
 

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I ran across something recently and I want you guys to tell me if it's something to build on or not. I mixed up 5% Hangsen Indian with 5% Capella Coconut. It's not 100% yet but it's close. I get the graham, rasin, spicy tobacco, and the light coconut flavor that I get from BB. Neither one of these flavors taste anything like BB when mixed alone. They mutate into this completely different flavor after steeping a day or more. I'm going to try Hangsen Turkish and/or Arabic next, maybe Hotel. If you have any of these flavors give it a try and tell me if I'm crazy and hallucinating or not.

What PG/VG ratio did you use? I assume 100% VG but thought I'd ask. I have several Hangsen Tobaccos and I'll give them a try. With just two ingredients, these will be easy to test out and confirm. Even if it's only close, one of these may a good starting point for fine tuning.
 

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What PG/VG ratio did you use? I assume 100% VG but thought I'd ask. I have several Hangsen Tobaccos and I'll give them a try. With just two ingredients, these will be easy to test out and confirm. Even if it's only close, one of these may a good starting point for fine tuning.
I did a 100% VG and a 60/40 I bumped up the Indian to 10% and CA coconut to 6% on the 100%VG version. I also confirmed that All Hangsen flavorings are PG free. Not sure if that means they are 100% VG or VG and triacetin mix. I will say they seem really thick but not 100% VG thick.
 
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