My Boba's clone
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I'll have to try that recipe when I get back home, but I'm pretty sure FW uses alcohol and PG in their flavors, and Boba's has to have VG or water based flavors. Thats the part that has had me scratching my head for a while now. I can't even name that many non-PG/alcohol based flavors in the first place. I'm pretty sure Ben even said on the forums here that he doesn't use alcohol, so that rules out stuff like VZ SC.
It's like Ben's customer who requested this ejuice wanted a Twix, Resses or similar candy (or even a cereal like Coco-puffs or Honey Grahams) in a tobacco flavor. Trying to quit smoking and somethin to kick sugar cravings.
Catalyst- Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work with us. Think of it as increasing the success rate of those switching to ecigs. You get my vote for ECF member of the year.
Catalyst- Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work with us. Think of it as increasing the success rate of those switching to ecigs. You get my vote for ECF member of the year.
Just a couple of things:
I've never purchased from FlavorWest, so I was a little shocked that the smallest they sell is 4 ounces. The prices are reasonable for that amount, but 3 flavors would cost over $30. In my way of thinking, that's a lot of money to test something. Did I miss something on their site?
Also, I didn't see Chocolate, but did see Chocolate tobacco. Again, did I overlook something?
I don't want to come off sounding disrespectful or negative in any way, but there has been so many "This is the one" recipes so far and I'm wondering why there's so much excitement over catalyst's recipe. Does he have an inside track somehow to the real mixture? I certainly want to thank him for all that work, though and appreciate the efforts of testing so many different batches.
I'll probably wait for feedback before I'd attempt this one, and at the cost of new flavors and a new vendor, the feedback will probably have to be almost 100% indicating this is the one (unless someone recommends some WL flavors that are very close) before I try it.
Thanks for all the hard work.
I've never purchased from FlavorWest, so I was a little shocked that the smallest they sell is 4 ounces. The prices are reasonable for that amount, but 3 flavors would cost over $30. In my way of thinking, that's a lot of money to test something. Did I miss something on their site?
Also, I didn't see Chocolate, but did see Chocolate tobacco. Again, did I overlook something?
I don't want to come off sounding disrespectful or negative in any way, but there has been so many "This is the one" recipes so far and I'm wondering why there's so much excitement over catalyst's recipe. Does he have an inside track somehow to the real mixture? I certainly want to thank him for all that work, though and appreciate the efforts of testing so many different batches.
I'll probably wait for feedback before I'd attempt this one, and at the cost of new flavors and a new vendor, the feedback will probably have to be almost 100% indicating this is the one (unless someone recommends some WL flavors that are very close) before I try it.
Thanks for all the hard work.
man can i use flavorwest peanut butter?
EDIT: Already asked that sorry forgot.
Flavor west have also Butterscotch tobacco. With the Vanilla tobacco and the chocolate tobacco, that a lot heck of tobaccos lol
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man 10ml from ecigexpress costs 2.99
EDIT: Also regarding chocolate Flavor West have Dark Chocolate and White Chocolate, maybe he meant one of those?
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This is what I ordered from ecigexpress. Hope its right.
Vanilla Tobacco Flavor By Flavor West
Butterscotch By Flavor West
Dark Chocolate By Flavor West
Peanut Butter By Flavor West
Grand Total $16.67
Vanilla Tobacco Flavor By Flavor West
Butterscotch By Flavor West
Dark Chocolate By Flavor West
Peanut Butter By Flavor West
Grand Total $16.67
If it is not right it will not be wrong. I'm sure you will be able to produce something nice.
To everyone wondering about the peanut butter, I'm assuming it was from TFA. WL sells TFA and LorAnn, and last time I ordered LorAnn's peanut butter it had a harsh taste to it and had a few unwanted ingredients (corn syrup etc). The TFA peanut butter is pretty good imo, and only has the normal couple ingredients (PG, flavors).
Blackbeard - No, he doesn't have insider information. Besides the fact that Ben probably makes all of his employees sign some legal documents making them liable for spilling the beans, all of the ingredients he listed have either PG or alcohol, and Ben has been quoted as saying BB has neither of these ingredients in it. It's just a recipe that he put together which he believes to be very close to the real thing, so imo its worth trying. Regarding the FW stuff, just order from ECX. 30mls will last you a while and it's not too expensive there.
Blackbeard - No, he doesn't have insider information. Besides the fact that Ben probably makes all of his employees sign some legal documents making them liable for spilling the beans, all of the ingredients he listed have either PG or alcohol, and Ben has been quoted as saying BB has neither of these ingredients in it. It's just a recipe that he put together which he believes to be very close to the real thing, so imo its worth trying. Regarding the FW stuff, just order from ECX. 30mls will last you a while and it's not too expensive there.
I've not tried the real thing, so I have no idea what it tastes like. The fact that this thread is now on it's 92nd page suggests to me that it's probably a juice I should experience, either real or clone. It just amazes me that we sometimes spend a ton of time on recipes that aren't similar in any way to a previous "fantastic" clone. If I'm not mistaken, the last near-perfect clone (#7) had coconut in it. The current recipe has none, and has nothing in it that suggests it might even hint at something with coconut aftertastes or hints, along with cinnamon. But how many pages did we spend on that particular version? I'm glad it was posted and appreciate the efforts.
I'm sure some of these close recipes are just fine in their own right. I tried #7 and felt I must have missed the mark a little as it didn't hit the spot for me. It was probably great for others. Heck, I didn't realize that FW was a supplier of flavorings much like TFA/TPA is, so I know I've got a lot to learn. But that's the reason I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon and purchase a lot of new flavors and start mixing catalyst's recipe until I know exactly which flavors he used and what others think of it. It sounds delicious, BTW.
I'm just glad there are people on the list like him that spend so much of their time and money to experiment and that they share the lessons they've learned. The few posts that showed up since his recipe was posted expressed such high hopes for a successful clone, but then, so did #7, and I only saw differing opinions on that recipe as to it's proximity to the real BB. I even see where the real BB doesn't taste like the real BB anymore.
In the end, to be honest with everyone, my wife would kill me right now if I buy more flavors and I don't come up with something she likes
I don't understand why Ben would be totally forthcoming about certain aspects of Boba's. Admitting that Boba's contains no PG-based or alcohol-based ingredients should make it a hell of a lot easier for someone else to figure out an exact clone.
I do NOT have any insider information. This is just a recipe I *think* is correct after much experimentation. I wouldn't suggest going out and buying a bunch of different juices to test this recipe until there is some feedback. It could taste perfect to me, but totally be incorrect!
I wouldn't trust my recipe over anyone else's if I was someone else.
BTW, the chocolate I used was just "chocolate", not dark chocolate (which gave it too bitter of a taste.)
Wow, Dyslexia strikes again. My apologies but the chocolate and the butterscotch were from FlavourART not FlavorWEST. The vanilla tobacco is FlavorWest. The peanut butter is from Wizard Labs, but I think it came from TFA originally. My sincerest apologies to anyone I led astray
I wouldn't trust my recipe over anyone else's if I was someone else.
BTW, the chocolate I used was just "chocolate", not dark chocolate (which gave it too bitter of a taste.)
Wow, Dyslexia strikes again. My apologies but the chocolate and the butterscotch were from FlavourART not FlavorWEST. The vanilla tobacco is FlavorWest. The peanut butter is from Wizard Labs, but I think it came from TFA originally. My sincerest apologies to anyone I led astray
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I've been vaping BB for a few weeks and it reminded me of a candy that I haven't had in awhile. So I got some Nestle Milk Chocolate Raisinets to snack on. To my taste buds, it's very similar to this candy. The raisen note comes out more after eating Raisinets. Raisinets and BB is a very dangerous combination if you have a sweet tooth. =D
Neither do I, but I assumed it was just fun for him to watch us all struggle with what to him is "so simple". So far I understand that theres no PG or alcohol, theres only 5 flavors, it's 40% flavor total, and there's definitely tobacco. You would think that these facts make it simple to clone, but if so, why isn't there one yet? I'm going to order my own soon to see for myself, but so far, it seems like people can't even properly describe the actual BB itself, so how in the world could we clone it under such specific circumstances? If anything, this knowledge makes it more difficult, as the majority of flavors out there are PG based.
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