Isn't he in the supplier forums? Aren't his ardent 100% VG folks asking questions?
My Boba's clone
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Just checked the suppliers forum, and noone seems to notice. There were a few posts regarding his new green labels etc, but nobody was questioning the 100%VG thing. I sent him an email and will respond back here if he replies.
Just found a post by Ben saying "Any of our e-juices that say PG contain less than 10% PG in them. All of our other e-juices that do not say PG contain 100% VG." in this thread. The post was from August 5th, which was 3 days ago today.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/alien-visions-e-juice/451888-question-about-pg-flavors.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/alien-visions-e-juice/451888-question-about-pg-flavors.html
Well then that explains why the label says PG. Ill say again it looks like a standard label with another label over top with the product name, size, and mg/ml. As this is my first order ever I have no idea what the labels or bottles were before.
And if this is less than 10% PG ya coulda fooled me. I use up to 15-20% PG based flavors at times and can barely taste PG in my mosly VG juices. This has a very distinct PG taste guys. Thats all I can say.
Maybe the shotages of what he was having problems with forced a change in his recipe? I dunno. Seems Ive kicked up a hornets nest tho. I ordered it Monday. I got it today.
And if this is less than 10% PG ya coulda fooled me. I use up to 15-20% PG based flavors at times and can barely taste PG in my mosly VG juices. This has a very distinct PG taste guys. Thats all I can say.
Maybe the shotages of what he was having problems with forced a change in his recipe? I dunno. Seems Ive kicked up a hornets nest tho. I ordered it Monday. I got it today.
Here's the new 10% PG blurb, for anyone too lazy to find it on his site 
Why E-Juice?
and agreed Slohand, wait to be shocked if we find it always contained PG. I'm still hoping it's just a recent change, but I worry the taste will have changed also then.
Why E-Juice?
and agreed Slohand, wait to be shocked if we find it always contained PG. I'm still hoping it's just a recent change, but I worry the taste will have changed also then.
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BB is so thick that I couldn't get it to vape right on any of my attys except the Kanger Pro. I just got lots of burnt flavor and my taste buds are now shot from trying it on an EVOD, Vivi Nova, and Ismoka.
Well I bought some Butterfingers to test out. BB still reminds me more of Raisinets than Butterfingers. I did a blind test on someone who doesn't smoke or vape and she smelled Hazelnut but no Butterfingers. I did taste a drop of BB liquid and the sweetness of Butterfinger is there. So I had a theory about the name.
BB= Boba Bounty
BB= Butterfinger Bar
It's possible Ben was trying to make a Butterfinger flavor for his customer and created something better when adding the tobacco flavor.
Well I bought some Butterfingers to test out. BB still reminds me more of Raisinets than Butterfingers. I did a blind test on someone who doesn't smoke or vape and she smelled Hazelnut but no Butterfingers. I did taste a drop of BB liquid and the sweetness of Butterfinger is there. So I had a theory about the name.
BB= Boba Bounty
BB= Butterfinger Bar
It's possible Ben was trying to make a Butterfinger flavor for his customer and created something better when adding the tobacco flavor.
Ben is a Star Wars fan. The name comes from one of the characters: Boba Fett, who was a Bounty Hunter..
....or so the story goes...From a Galaxy Far, far away....(Alien Visions should be another clue
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The one on the right.....
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I made a batch of Catalyst's recipe but changed it to 70 PG and 30 VG so I could use my EVOD clearo.
The Vanilla is very dominate which mutes the other flavors. I don't get any Vanilla notes in BB. This mix reminds me of a Vanilla Cola ejuice I got from a B&M.
The Vanilla is very dominate which mutes the other flavors. I don't get any Vanilla notes in BB. This mix reminds me of a Vanilla Cola ejuice I got from a B&M.
Over in the UK we have a chocolate bar called a Bounty Bar, Coconut wrapped with chocolate.
Going to look that up. That better explains the name. Ben likes Boba Fett and his customer wanted a Bounty Bar.
Ok just ran into Wally world and got Mounds which is like the Bounty Bar. Apparently, the Bounty Bar does have a cherry flavor version in Australia...interesting. Now that the coconut registered in my brain from eating the Mounds, I do get coconut notes in BB. So here's what I'm thinking now...Since Boba Fett is a clone of Jango Fett, it would make sense to call the ejuice "Boba" since it's a clone of "Bounty" Bar. Based on what others have observed, I think we are getting close to what actually Ben's customer wanted and how it was mixed to make it close enough or better. I think I'll use Slohand's #7 and tweak it with some chocolate and cherry. I may not get the cherry flavor due to my setup. A dripper or 510 atomizer might bring out those other flavors people are reporting.
Here's what I found:
"Bounty is a chocolate bar manufactured by Mars Incorporated and sold internationally. It is not marketed in the United States (with the exception of World Market and international sections of many supermarkets), where a similar product, Mounds, is marketed by Hershey's. Bounty was introduced in 1951 (UK/Canada).
It has a coconut filling enrobed with milk chocolate (sold in a blue wrapper) or dark chocolate (sold in a red wrapper) and is one of the few chocolates to come wrapped in two individual halves. Since 2006, a cherry flavoured version has also been available in Australia. This was initially a limited edition flavor, but remains available as of 2013. In Europe, a limited edition mango flavour was available in 2004-05 and in Russia and Ukraine in 2010.
Bounty (chocolate bar) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here's what I found:
"Bounty is a chocolate bar manufactured by Mars Incorporated and sold internationally. It is not marketed in the United States (with the exception of World Market and international sections of many supermarkets), where a similar product, Mounds, is marketed by Hershey's. Bounty was introduced in 1951 (UK/Canada).
It has a coconut filling enrobed with milk chocolate (sold in a blue wrapper) or dark chocolate (sold in a red wrapper) and is one of the few chocolates to come wrapped in two individual halves. Since 2006, a cherry flavoured version has also been available in Australia. This was initially a limited edition flavor, but remains available as of 2013. In Europe, a limited edition mango flavour was available in 2004-05 and in Russia and Ukraine in 2010.
Bounty (chocolate bar) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ok I tried Bobas again first thing this morning. Me, I taste zero coconut. None at all. If its there my juice is too "young" for it to be discernable.
While I still believe this juice does have some PG, regardless of what Ben says, its compounded by the fact that that staleness Im tasting isnt just from PG. Im leaning more towards the ashtray like taste acquired from adding seedmans commercial concentrate to tobacco absolute. Either that or a light touch tpa marlboro, or dk/555, both of which are nutty.
The juice absolutely has cinnamon of some kind. you can obviously taste it even on your tongue if you put a drop of bobas on your finger and lick it off.... of course not my preferred method of using juice... lol.
So we are left with Tobacco absolute Alc (pre diluted), Tob absolute Pure (diluted in VG), some kind of cinnamon (be it from cinnamon red hots, tpa cinnamon danish, or gingerbread, or even graham cracker (gingerbread and graham cracker recipes are strikingly similar baking recipes btw)), a light touch of chocolate, and maybe... still a big maybe to me... is cherry. There is one flavor I cant discern yet, and thats the one I am leaning toward cherry.
I do have most of the flavorings above ao ill be trying a few things over the next couple days.
While I still believe this juice does have some PG, regardless of what Ben says, its compounded by the fact that that staleness Im tasting isnt just from PG. Im leaning more towards the ashtray like taste acquired from adding seedmans commercial concentrate to tobacco absolute. Either that or a light touch tpa marlboro, or dk/555, both of which are nutty.
The juice absolutely has cinnamon of some kind. you can obviously taste it even on your tongue if you put a drop of bobas on your finger and lick it off.... of course not my preferred method of using juice... lol.
So we are left with Tobacco absolute Alc (pre diluted), Tob absolute Pure (diluted in VG), some kind of cinnamon (be it from cinnamon red hots, tpa cinnamon danish, or gingerbread, or even graham cracker (gingerbread and graham cracker recipes are strikingly similar baking recipes btw)), a light touch of chocolate, and maybe... still a big maybe to me... is cherry. There is one flavor I cant discern yet, and thats the one I am leaning toward cherry.
I do have most of the flavorings above ao ill be trying a few things over the next couple days.
Ok update. I have two separate responses from AVE that state that their tobaccos are all 100% VG unless "PG" is in the title (ex. PG Hype). First was an email I sent out yesterday. I got a response today that said "All of our tobacco flavors are 100% VG, our sweet flavors that say PG contain less than 10% PG In them and the rest is VG."
I also posted in a thread in the suppliers forum and got a response there indicating the same thing.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/alien-visions-e-juice/451888-question-about-pg-flavors.html
They state that the reason the labels say PG is because they're generic labels that they bought in bulk, but the tobacco flavors are indeed 100% VG. So a couple things to gather from this -
1. The base is probably TA diluted in VG.
2. The flavors are all VG based or water based, but not PG or alcohol based.
3. The VG is probably thinned a bit with water, as having literally 100% VG in a tank will never wick well, ever.
I guess if I'm going to take this seriously I'll need to try some Bobas myself. Their store opens at 11am EST correct?
I also posted in a thread in the suppliers forum and got a response there indicating the same thing.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/alien-visions-e-juice/451888-question-about-pg-flavors.html
They state that the reason the labels say PG is because they're generic labels that they bought in bulk, but the tobacco flavors are indeed 100% VG. So a couple things to gather from this -
1. The base is probably TA diluted in VG.
2. The flavors are all VG based or water based, but not PG or alcohol based.
3. The VG is probably thinned a bit with water, as having literally 100% VG in a tank will never wick well, ever.
I guess if I'm going to take this seriously I'll need to try some Bobas myself. Their store opens at 11am EST correct?
Yep. I get there a few minutes early and refresh the page every so often to make sure I don't miss out.
Yes but if you read carefully... he completely dodged your question and didnt answer it. He didnt define 100% VG at all. Is it just the base? The whole entire juice?
As someone PG sensitive myself... these are answers Id like regardless of this thread. How many flavorings are all VG? I have a cabinet full and I went thru them all last night and couldnt find one single all vg flavoring.
I understand its a general label, mass produced to "cover all bases" in a sense, but then that means he is mislabeling his products and that isnt kosher.
As someone PG sensitive myself... these are answers Id like regardless of this thread. How many flavorings are all VG? I have a cabinet full and I went thru them all last night and couldnt find one single all vg flavoring.
I understand its a general label, mass produced to "cover all bases" in a sense, but then that means he is mislabeling his products and that isnt kosher.
Thanks for checking on that, good to hear Boba's is still the same formula and is still 100% VG. Kind of odd they would use the generic labels that are incorrect though.
You definitely need to try it! We get the same few types of posts over and over on this thread
Those that have never tried Boba's Bounty, but are suggesting recipes.
Those that are suggesting recipes, but then mention they haven't tried it yet, and are waiting for it to steep, never to be heard from again.
Those that assert they absolutely have it figured out, then others try the recipe, and not so much.
It's all good regardless, as even the failures can turn out to be a really nice vape.
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