My Boba's clone
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I googled the flavoring in cherry cavendish to get a better idea of what it was.
Flavoring:
Coffee
Whisky
Alcohol / Liquor
Cherry
Vanilla
Perhaps if a net was not used, Ben could "clone" a cherry cavendish or he's using a cherry cigar flavor which I remember VZ had one. If he's using 3 ingredients for the tobacco base that could be in there. I also have TFA Red tobacco and it's got a similar smell. I'm assuming it suppose to be like a Marlboro red. I remember someone posting it reminded them of Marlboro and Pbsurado reviewed BB and mentioned it was like a improved version of Dekang prefilled Marlboro.
And recipe #7 didn't have cherry but was very close just missing something. I wonder if cherry and Whiskey might be what gets #7 even closer to BB.
Just throwing this out there...Based on the recipes and someone saying there is a Bounty Bar...I thought Ben was cloning the flavor of the bar ....and there is also a cherry version and a mango one. Probably just coincidence. Mango-Cherry smoothie sounds good right now.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_(chocolate_bar)
Flavoring:
Coffee
Whisky
Alcohol / Liquor
Cherry
Vanilla
Perhaps if a net was not used, Ben could "clone" a cherry cavendish or he's using a cherry cigar flavor which I remember VZ had one. If he's using 3 ingredients for the tobacco base that could be in there. I also have TFA Red tobacco and it's got a similar smell. I'm assuming it suppose to be like a Marlboro red. I remember someone posting it reminded them of Marlboro and Pbsurado reviewed BB and mentioned it was like a improved version of Dekang prefilled Marlboro.
And recipe #7 didn't have cherry but was very close just missing something. I wonder if cherry and Whiskey might be what gets #7 even closer to BB.
Just throwing this out there...Based on the recipes and someone saying there is a Bounty Bar...I thought Ben was cloning the flavor of the bar ....and there is also a cherry version and a mango one. Probably just coincidence. Mango-Cherry smoothie sounds good right now.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_(chocolate_bar)
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I googled the flavoring in cherry cavendish to get a better idea of what it was.
Flavoring:
Coffee
Whisky
Alcohol / Liquor
Cherry
Vanilla
Perhaps if a net was not used, Ben could "clone" a cherry cavendish or he's using a cherry cigar flavor which I remember VZ had one. If he's using 3 ingredients for the tobacco base that could be in there. I also have TFA Red Tobacco and it's got a similar smell. I'm assuming it suppose to be like a Marlboro red. I remember someone posting it reminded them of Marlboro and Pbsurado reviewed BB and mentioned it was like a improved version of Dekang prefilled Marlboro.
And recipe #7 didn't have cherry but was very close just missing something. I wonder if cherry and Whiskey might be what gets #7 even closer to BB.
Just throwing this out there...Based on the recipes and someone saying there is a Bounty Bar...I thought Ben was cloning the flavor of the bar ....and there is also a cherry version and a mango one. Probably just coincidence. Mango-Cherry smoothie sounds good right now.
Bounty (chocolate bar) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No doubt its a net derived from pipe tobacco. This is not something complicated that was created in a laboratory over a long period of time.
The assumption that there are 3 separate tobaccos used for the base is based on the following quote:
"It is "basically" Boba's with some Banana-esque flavorings but I take 2 base tobacco elements out of the Gorilla Juice"
I don't necessarily take this to mean that there are 3 separate tobacco components in bobas and two are removed for GJ.
The brand I'm testing (borkum riff cherry cavendish) is comprised of 3 flavors per say - black cavendish, virginia, and cherry. So if you remove the cherry and virginia then you are just using plain black cavendish which is not the same product but fundamentally is minus those two "elements".
Also I believe that there are 5 ingredients in bobas and two are VG and distilled water. That doesn't leave much room for a bunch of separate tobacco flavorings.
You need to try the cherry cavendish net on its own - its amazing!
How to get a strong vg net as is used in bobas is a different matter. Currently I'm steeping in vg but think I'm going to switch to pg for now to speed things up for testing purposes.
I'm keeping it "simple" for now.
A heat-assisted extraction may work with VG. All of the extractions I've done were heat-assisted with PG, but VG will thin a lot when heated. I may give that a shot this weekend.
Thanks for the tip - makes a lot of sense! It cant come out any worse than my cooking so I'll give it a shot!
I have been doing VG extracts exclusively and yes heat is an absolute must + time + double/triple filtering. If not well filtered your coils gunk up in no time.
Thanks for the info! Have you tried extracting cherry cavendish yet? And if so what are your thoughts on it.
No not as of yet. I have added cherry flavoring however in some of the test batches with varied results. There is also a Captain Blacks Cherry? but I can't find that here. Going to Montreal this weekend and have a few really good tobacconists that I want to visit as well as all the new B&M's popping up every where in that city.
Yes the Captain Black had an overwhelming cherry candy smell to it so I didn't go for it. The other brand that I'll try if I don't get the desired results from Borkum Riff is Super Saver. That was also a strong contender. I'm sure there are others out there.
I looked that up to see what's in blue note:
"Blue Note delivers a full load of [what we are told is] exotic fruit/bourbon vanilla flavor in every puff"
"of chocolate, artificial cherry, and vanilla" ....hint of coconut.
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Got my Capt.Black Cherry at the Atlantic SuperStore (Loblaw's) tobacco shop to make my extract. Something's you get lucky, and it's right under your nose.
Into the extract, which is why I'm on the sideline until the thread gets back to the normal discussion. Vendors that use NET or WTA should be disclosing it, and most do. Ben makes absolutely no mention of NET anywhere I've looked from the beginning.
And that's the biggest mystery. If we are believing Ben (which I do), then what other factor, aside of an extract, could make it impossible to offer the tobacco juices in 0mg?
Figure that out, and we might be closer to figuring vital information.
None of his 8 tobacco flavors are available in 0 mg, do you really think they're all NET based?
Conjecture here, but I believe he just doesnt want to do a 0mg juice. It could be the lack of something as simple as throat hit in 0mg all VG juice makes for a poor vape in his eyes.
We just dont know what his reason is. Mayne he is referring to trace amounts of nic from something like absolutes. However, all my research shows that absolutes dont have trace nic. Maybe he thinks they do?
Do tobacco flavorings (not NETS or absolutes here) themselves have trace amounts of nic?
Do I think Bobas is made from a pipe type tobacco? No. Do I think its made from a tobacco extract into VG? Absolutely not. Again, his business is juice. Not manufacturing flavorings. And his shortages at times tells the tale that he isnt making any of his flavorings in house.
Could you make a similar vape to bobas from a tobacco extraction? Sure, anything is possible. Question is... is it PROBABLE? Thats a flat no to me. NETs are a route I know I wont go down for a bobas clone so Ill leave that to those already trying it.
Whatever he is using for flavorings is commercially available, and was in the mid to late half of 2009. So its the same stuff we all use to mix with. The chances of it being a NET, in VG, from 2009 are very very very slim. In my mind, nearly impossible. It just wasnt being done like that back then.
We just dont know what his reason is. Mayne he is referring to trace amounts of nic from something like absolutes. However, all my research shows that absolutes dont have trace nic. Maybe he thinks they do?
Do tobacco flavorings (not NETS or absolutes here) themselves have trace amounts of nic?
Do I think Bobas is made from a pipe type tobacco? No. Do I think its made from a tobacco extract into VG? Absolutely not. Again, his business is juice. Not manufacturing flavorings. And his shortages at times tells the tale that he isnt making any of his flavorings in house.
Could you make a similar vape to bobas from a tobacco extraction? Sure, anything is possible. Question is... is it PROBABLE? Thats a flat no to me. NETs are a route I know I wont go down for a bobas clone so Ill leave that to those already trying it.
Whatever he is using for flavorings is commercially available, and was in the mid to late half of 2009. So its the same stuff we all use to mix with. The chances of it being a NET, in VG, from 2009 are very very very slim. In my mind, nearly impossible. It just wasnt being done like that back then.
Hello everybody. I got everyting for #7 clone.
I just have one question. I got Almond Natural .
And its too thick. Do I dilute this, or any of the flavors ? Sorry for the newb question.
I got the exact same flavors Slohand said,and i wanna make the exact same recipe.
And one more question. Dilute related again.
Candy floss and cherry flavor from lorann. they are not thick but somewhere i read that loranns flavors are usually diluted. Its that so?
I just have one question. I got Almond Natural .
And its too thick. Do I dilute this, or any of the flavors ? Sorry for the newb question.
I got the exact same flavors Slohand said,and i wanna make the exact same recipe.
And one more question. Dilute related again.
Candy floss and cherry flavor from lorann. they are not thick but somewhere i read that loranns flavors are usually diluted. Its that so?
The Almond Natural flavoring is in VG, instead of PG, that's why it's thick, but VG flavoring is weaker, so no, you don't dilute. If anything, you might need to use a greater percentage of the Almond Natural in the mix. It will be trial and error. There's not a good reason to ever dilute any flavoring. If the flavor is too strong just lower the percentage. Stronger flavors are labeled as concentrated. Diluting is only needed for very very strong flavoring, like the TA, if you're making small test batches, like 3ml, but dilution makes figuring out the totals a little more work.
Could you guys and gals point me to the #7 recipe?
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