My Boba's clone

[buffaloguy]

Glad you like it and you are welcome.

I tried Buffaloguy's recipe and I like it MUCH, MUCH better than the "#7" recipe with the cigar flavoring. Wow, is this stuff good. I lowered the Cinnamon Danish to 4% and upped the graham cracker to 4%. I also added 2 drops of FA Cinnamon Ceylon to my 5ml sample. I will blow through this in no time. Thanks for the great recipe!

 

[Sad Society]

Well I made some tasty nice vapes and they are close, but no Bobas yet. The recipe below is actually really yummy in its own right.

While I feel I have a good approximation of actual ingredients the percentages need adjusting yet.

What I have used is the following:
Scubatdan's tobacco Absolute blend (in alc. I found tpa tob absolute blend alc to be easier to use in this case than TA pure). It can be made from TA pure via dans recipe here on the forums. @10%
TPA Cinnamon Danish @5%
Tpa Double Chocolate @1%
TPA Graham Cracker @1%
Some distilled water. @7%

I used too much cinn danish and not enough graham cracker. its not close enough at all yet and I need to mix some more stuff this afternoon. However I do believe I am on the right track.

Another note of thought is that my mix was much thinner with the dw than bobas. So with the flavorings above Im going to eliminate more of the dw in this round.

I tried Buffaloguy's recipe and I like it MUCH, MUCH better than the "#7" recipe with the cigar flavoring. Wow, is this stuff good. I lowered the Cinnamon Danish to 4% and upped the graham cracker to 4%. I also added 2 drops of FA Cinnamon Ceylon to my 5ml sample. I will blow through this in no time. Thanks for the great recipe!

Thanks Guys, I will have to give this a shot. I've only tried the #7 recipe and I figured out how much flavoring was actually in it...and while it taste's good, there is actually TOO much flavoring in it. I was thinking about cutting all the flavor percentages in half on the #7 recipe, but I haven't gotten around to try it yet. But I think I will try this recipe out next.

As we know (or don't know) about flavorings...each one is different, and each flavoring has their flavor percentages for flavor strength on their own. For Example one flavor will taste good @ 3%, while another flavor may not be quite as strong and is good at a higher percentage. And sometimes a vendor will state that a certain flavor concentrate is best/ideal at a certain percentage.

I find it interesting when a vendor recommends a flavor a 2.5%, and someone makes a recipe using that flavor at 6%...all while adding more flavors in the mix on top of that.

IMO finding a good balance of mixing flavors, while keeping the flavor percentages to a minimal is an art. A good steep on a nice balance of flavors can do wonders.

 

[vapolator]

I rapidly plunged into the world of unflavored vaping

I'm very interrested to known where you buy your nicotine's basis.

For the boba clone, i've recently splitted the formula in twos parts : the tabacco part and the "sweet" part. I mix the tabacco's flavors together undiluted and let it sit for 48 hours. I've better results like that and it simplify the research : just to throw the differents versions in the same "sweet part".

The sweet part i'm using is overquoted here : double chocolate dark (TFA), graham craker (not the clear too) (TFA), coconut (Excellence Flavor)[less than 1%], cinnamon danish (Capella), cinnamon sugar cookie (TFA), guaiacol 12% (TFA), mapple syrup (TFA) and a hint of red bull TFA [less than 0.5%]. Depending on the tabacco part i build aside, i can add caramel (inawera), capucinno (capella) and EM 13% (TFA).

As a lot of the followers of this thread, i'm searching the "little thing wich make all for me". This specific signature on the tongue after a puff : a little acidistic, a little malted, a little fruity. At the start i taked the equation as it : wich flavors is lacking ? malt ? one specific alcohol ? an unnattended flavor ? etc ... and at the final stage, i'm vaping formulas wich are too heavy and wich contain too many flavors, this give an unstable liquid.

In vaping the originals (boba and gorilla) i discovered recently than the tabacco side give a body to the sweet part, not the reverse. This have changed totally my mind on it and i've stopped to turn on myself in the results. What i searched was in fact the good/right interraction of the tabacco.

I'm using the Dark Vapure of FA (italia) as a basis, it's a dry tabacco with a strong body wich operate like a bitter wizard but flavored, and without giving a loud "bitter" undertone to all tabaccos and chocolate in the formula when matured. No need of sweetner to correct that. It give the acid return, work well with the red bull and reddish the liquid exactly like the original. With somes raw tabacco, it give the fruity/malted tone.

It don't work well with a lot of black honey i've tested so i make mine with honey (TFA), honey (inawera), 7 leaves (FA) and keen tabacco (Compact). The honey explode later, so i'm using it like plutonium. Vz honey flue cured is maybe one of the better black honey i've tryed but it's too complex imho to be a part of an allready complex tabacco mix.

Now, i'm trying to find the third part of the tobacco part. Not easy but i'm in the cigars and brown tabacco for it, atm.

I'm aware than i don't give any true formula "key in hand", it's because i'm not entirely satisfyed. It's more a road map than i share to give ideas or a different angle.

About Ben, i share the opinions of somes : sometimes luck become a destiny lol He said the formula is very simple, the more i'm vaping the originals the more i don't believe in a formula with only three or four flavors. In the same vein, i can say than i'm using only twos flavors and i don't lie ... i mix them undiluted before adding it to the basis.

 

[JohnnyDill]

The bizarre part about the Buffaloguy recipe is that I SWEAR you can taste the coconut. And there is no coconut. It must just be something about the combination of flavorings playing off of each other. The color has darkened to a deep orange-red which is close to the real thing. I have never even tried genuine Boba's and to be honest, don't really care if I do or not. I just WON'T buy store bought juice. As I mentioned earlier, I said that I would vape all of my sample in no time. Well, it is almost GONE! -Time to make a big batch.

 

[shayf]

Probably asked many times before but I could not find it,
What are the ingredients to the famous "Scubatdan's Tobacco Absolute blend" and from where they are available to be purchased?

 

[JohnnyDill]

I believe it is just tobacco absolute diluted and 1% EM added. I made mine with Azure TA. Straight TA is like tar and it is supposed to be diluted to 1/20. Azure's 1.5ml vial is already diluted 1/2 with ethanol so I dumped that into a bottle and added 13.5 ml PG to create 15ml of TA mix. Then I added 1% EM. After months of steeping, this stuff is awesome tasting with no grassy taste. It still separates over time and needs a good shake before mixing with anything. Still cloudy, too. I add this to many mixes from TFA, Hangsen and lately Inawera.

I dunno if Scubabatdan did it like this, but I am betting he did something very similar. Hope this helps! Azure Vaping 1.5 ml vial Tobacco absolute w/ ethyl alcohol

 

[shayf]

JohnnyDill, thanks for the input!
It's a shame they do not ship to Israel.

Anyone have a clue where can I find this Tobacco Absolute from a web site that ship internationally (Israel)?

 

[Menthologist]

Here's the original post that Dan posted, Love this stuff.
I have posted this I do not know how many times, but this is the same recipe I have been using since 2010:

TA (Tobacco Absolute), and EM (Ethyl Maltol) is a great base. It allows to to add pretty much any other flavor to it. This is my tobbaco base concoction. Unfortunatly the seedmans darkens it up alittle, but it is fairly clear at 10%.

You will need the following:

Perfumers Apprentice - Cotton Candy 2 x 1oz

TOB506 Commercial Cigarette Concentrate 4 x 1/2oz

Perfumers Apprentice - Tobacco Absolute (1. Pure) 1 x 2.5ml

Now, the cotton candy from perfumer apprentice is ethyl maltol suspended in PG @ 10%, warm the cotton candy and the 2.5ml of TA (tobacco absolute) in a sink of HOT water.

Get a 4oz bottle to add everything into, uncap the cotton candy and pour it all into the 4oz bottle, then uncap the TA, it will not be thick now as the hot bath has made it thinner. Use a pipette (note the TA will stain the pipette so use this pipette only for TA) and put .3ml of TA into the cotton candy (About 6 drops). Now cap the cotton candy and shake until it is mixed. Now add the seedmans concentrate to the cotton candy and shake until mixed.

The result is a approx 120ml of tobacco base that is very satisfying IMO @ 10%, and you can add hazelnut or peanut flavor to your mix to give it a nutty flavor. Add vanilla, black cherry, or caramel to give it those notes.
When adding menthol us it at 3% to the 7% tobacco base.
Well hope this helps.
Dan

 

[shayf]

Thanks!
Do you have a link to purchase "Perfumers Apprentice - Tobacco Absolute"? I can't seem to find it.

 

[Menthologist]

I'm sure i read somewhere that PA don't do TA anymore.

 

[Menthologist]

I bought a small vile of it a couple of years a go and its still going, Mega strong stuff if you manage to get some.

 

[Menthologist]

Here u go

Tobacco Absolute (diluted)

 

[shayf]

Exactly!

I find in Google a lot of suppliers of "Bulgarian Tobacco Absolute" but am worried to vape something not recommended from unfamiliar supplier.

 

[Aal_]

I use the tobacco absolute pg blend. Basically they dilute the TA in PG. For me it's good enough.

 

[shayf]

Menthologist thanks!
You have experience with this product from this supplier?

P.S.
For some reason I could not add to cart. I think there is a problem in this site.

 

[buffaloguy]

Just to clarify the TPA tobacco absolute blend, if you still have any, in either alc base or pg base is exactly Scubatdan's recipe.

 

[EddieAdams]

Pure TA 2 drops in 10ml Ethyl Maltol PG. Just about any pre mixed EM is 10% EM crystals in PG.
If you have a 50PureGrainAlcohol/50 pure TA then you would use 4 drops in 10ml PG Ethyl Maltol.
In hindsight I would have gone with the 50/50. Much easier to handle.

BTW I'm pretty sure I've done it. Waiting on feedback and waiting to order and stock up then I'll share. Ignore my previous recipes pretty much...

 

[EddieAdams]

Got my TA from azure vaping.

Got my rustica TA from wingseed or samara botane. Wasn't happy. Seemed dried out and had a crust on the top. Had what looked like plant material floating in it after diluting it. Filtered through a coffee filter. Was hesitant to use it. Contacted them and nothing came of it.

I've since used it. Very different tasting than traditional TA. More mild and seems like you could use more than you would with regular TA. Anyway my $0.02...

 

[Flt Simulation]

Jeeeze .... Over 2,000 posts now and nobody has been able to clone Boba's yet?

Has anyone ever tried calling the guy that actually created the recipe and asked him what's in it ... Or is the secret locked up in a big steel vault someplace.

How about asking one of his previous employees that was fired or quit? ... They have nothing to lose by telling you what's in it.

 

[Aheadatime]

How about asking one of his previous employees that was fired or quit? ... They have nothing to lose by telling you what's in it.

I'm pretty sure the people who do know have signed some sort of contract that is punishable upon breaking. Either that, or its just a verbal contract, or maybe moneys even involved.