My Boba's clone

[Rlafontaine1971]

I wonder if all three of these are superconcentrates. Even though 10 drops for 5 ml would work out to be a very low percentage of flavoring it would equate to a 25 - 30% mix if you were using regular contrates (from a taste perspective). It's possible that these 3 flavors make up the mix or at least mimic the flavor profile, I have the flavors so i'm going to try it this evening. 6 drops of BnM for 5 ml is double what I would normally use. A few ECF memebers have always thought BnM was in the mix. I've mixed VZ BnM (3 drops/5 ml) with some TPA Bavarian cream and hazlenut before. It was nothing like Bobas but it was still pretty good. I've always thought that Ben used super concentrates but I was also thinking that a drop or two of either tobacco absolute or tobacco extract would be in mix. It would help explain the slight differences in taste you get from time to time. Anyway, i'll give some feedback on this tomorrow.

Results after 16 hours:

VZ Black and Mild
HC Cocanut
HC Cotton Candy

Need more input from "ManWithNoName". Dropper Size? All super concentrates? All 3 VZ flavors?

I used the original bottles to add the flavors.

10 ML 24mg
6 drops VZ BnM
4 drops HC Cocanut
4 drops HC Cotton Candy

The smell is somewhat similar to Bobas but there is a difference. I'm not getting that maple,mollasses,honey type smell that I get from a Bobas bottle. I'm not sure how to describe that smell. It doesn't really taste the same to me but I like it. I do get the feeling that VZ BnM can be used in a clone recipe. for this. The color is way off but that doesn't bother me. I have convinced myself that Bobas has super concentrated flavors and caramel color. I could be wrong but if he's using super concentrates then theres no way you can get that much color into an all VG mix at such low percentages. I have caramel color but didn't add it because I want to see how much the color changes after a few days. I also made a larger test batch to see what effects steeping will have on this. I used super concetrates on the cotton candy and cocanut because it doesnt make since to use regular concentrates on such a strong dose of Black and Mild. I originally bought the VZ BnM a few months ago specifically for a Bobas type juice but havent played around with it in a while (got too caught up with some other flavors). More recently i've been thinking of trying bobas with something different (Barley Malt Extract). I've been checking that out on a few different sites for the last week but havent ordered yet, probably will this evening though. My intentions were to try the Barley Malt flavoring with both tobacco extract and tobacco absolute with a little seedmans commercial blend or honey blend. I will still be playing wround with this BnM recipe to see if I can get it where I would want it. C'mon back OP, I have questions... lol

 

[BlueSnake]

Results after 16 hours:

VZ Black and Mild
HC Cocanut
HC Cotton Candy

Need more input from "ManWithNoName". Dropper Size? All super concentrates? All 3 VZ flavors?

I used the original bottles to add the flavors.

10 ML 24mg
6 drops VZ BnM
4 drops HC Cocanut
4 drops HC Cotton Candy

The smell is somewhat similar to Bobas but there is a difference. I'm not getting that maple,mollasses,honey type smell that I get from a Bobas bottle. I'm not sure how to describe that smell. It doesn't really taste the same to me but I like it. I do get the feeling that VZ BnM can be used in a clone recipe. for this. The color is way off but that doesn't bother me. I have convinced myself that Bobas has super concentrated flavors and caramel color. I could be wrong but if he's using super concentrates then theres no way you can get that much color into an all VG mix at such low percentages. I have caramel color but didn't add it because I want to see how much the color changes after a few days. I also made a larger test batch to see what effects steeping will have on this. I used super concetrates on the cotton candy and cocanut because it doesnt make since to use regular concentrates on such a strong dose of Black and Mild. I originally bought the VZ BnM a few months ago specifically for a Bobas type juice but havent played around with it in a while (got too caught up with some other flavors). More recently i've been thinking of trying bobas with something different (Barley Malt Extract). I've been checking that out on a few different sites for the last week but havent ordered yet, probably will this evening though. My intentions were to try the Barley Malt flavoring with both tobacco extract and tobacco absolute with a little seedmans commercial blend or honey blend. I will still be playing wround with this BnM recipe to see if I can get it where I would want it. C'mon back OP, I have questions... lol

If you read the original post the B&M and Coconut were VZ SC. The Cotton Candy was Lorann. Don't know how much difference that would make.

 

[Rlafontaine1971]

If you read the original post the B&M and Coconut were VZ SC. The Cotton Candy was Lorann. Don't know how much difference that would make.

I've been scatter brained lately so I probably read right over it and didn't catch it. I wouldnt think Loanns cotton candy would be that much different from TPA cotton candy so i'll try it.

 

[stashbldr]

Results after 16 hours:

VZ Black and Mild
HC Cocanut
HC Cotton Candy

Need more input from "ManWithNoName". Dropper Size? All super concentrates? All 3 VZ flavors?

I used the original bottles to add the flavors.

10 ML 24mg
6 drops VZ BnM
4 drops HC Cocanut
4 drops HC Cotton Candy

The OP used different proportions .. he made a 5ml bottle and used 6 drops B&M. If you made a 10ml bottle and only used 6 drops B&M then you might want to add 6 more drops of the B&M to equal what the OP made.

 

[Rlafontaine1971]

The OP used different proportions .. he made a 5ml bottle and used 6 drops B&M. If you made a 10ml bottle and only used 6 drops B&M then you might want to add 6 more drops of the B&M to equal what the OP made.

I used 12 drops, it was a typo. I just doubled everything for the 10 ml.

 

[ManWithNoName]

not when mixed.

 

[ManWithNoName]

that is correct, 4-5%, the drops were from the bottle. I used a old nic bottle dropper for the cotton candy.

 

[ManWithNoName]

the B&M and Coconut was from VZ, Cotton Candy is Loranns.

 

[graffinfected]

has anyone tried this yet?.. is the recipe on point?

 

[H0mebrew]

The B&M from VZ does seem to provide part of the missing flavor but not all of it. There still seems to be something missing.

I remember trying the Coconut from VZ before and it didn't taste very much like coconut to me. I cannot find my bottle of coconut concentrate right now. I'm pretty sure I left it at work and will try the combination tonight.

I tried the B&M with my current recipe from the other thread and it is closer to BB.

 

[H0mebrew]

Ok I tried the B&M(VZ) with Coconut(VZ) and I believe it is the missing flavor that we have been looking for.

I re-worked my recipe from the other thread with the B&M and Coconut from VZ and I think this is the closest match to boba's that I have tried so far. I can taste all the flavors in boba. I cannot find anything missing. I think we need to play with the percentages a little to dial it in. The following recipe is a little dry and needs a bit of sweetener.

I made a 5ml batch at 6mg 30pg/70vg

3% Cinnamon Danish(TPA)
3% Graham Cracker(TPA)
6% Black & Mild(VZ)
1% Coconut(VZ)
1% Mts Vape Wizard(FA)

 

[Levitas]

Is that Cinnamon danish strong? Rather, let me ask, of the ingredients above, which would you consider to be the most prevalent?

I have some Cinnamon Churro from FW, and it's potent. I'm talking, I mixed a bottle of 12% TFA Blueberry, and 3% FW Cinnamon Churro, and I couldn't even taste the blueberry, at all, lol.

 

[H0mebrew]

Is that Cinnamon danish strong? Rather, let me ask, of the ingredients above, which would you consider to be the most prevalent?

I have some Cinnamon Churro from FW, and it's potent. I'm talking, I mixed a bottle of 12% TFA Blueberry, and 3% FW Cinnamon Churro, and I couldn't even taste the blueberry, at all, lol.

The B&M is the dominant flavor. I added the Graham cracker to cut the cinnamon. I actually only tase a hint of the cinnamon. The Graham Cracker is the stronger of the 2 and I will probably lower it to 2.5%.

I do not taste the coconut at all and may increase it another drop.

I bought some Cinnamon Churro in my last order from WL and it smells like a strong red hot type of cinnamon. I havn't tried it yet but based on the smell i would try it starting at 1% or less.

I was using the Cinnamon danish in my previous version of boba's at 4% and it was the dominant flavor.

 

[Rlafontaine1971]

I was wanting to play around with the percentages again last night but didnt have the time. I'm also thinking about trying 3 test batches at a time (adding tobacco extract to one and tobacco absolute to the other). Even if this doesn't go any further this mix is already very good but I think it can get closer (if not a little better).

Ok I tried the B&M(VZ) with Coconut(VZ) and I believe it is the missing flavor that we have been looking for.

I re-worked my recipe from the other thread with the B&M and Coconut from VZ and I think this is the closest match to boba's that I have tried so far. I can taste all the flavors in boba. I cannot find anything missing. I think we need to play with the percentages a little to dial it in. The following recipe is a little dry and needs a bit of sweetener.




I made a 5ml batch at 6mg 30pg/70vg

3% Cinnamon Danish(TPA)
3% Graham Cracker(TPA)
6% Black & Mild(VZ)
1% Coconut(VZ)
1% Mts Vape Wizard(FA)

 

[H0mebrew]

I was wanting to play around with the percentages again last night but didnt have the time. I'm also thinking about trying 3 test batches at a time (adding tobacco extract to one and tobacco absolute to the other). Even if this doesn't go any further this mix is already very good but I think it can get closer (if not a little better).

Tobacco Absolute might be better than Just sweetener. It has plenty of Ethyl Maltol in it. I'm thinking 1 or 2% maybe.

 

[Lespaul]

Probably too simple but has anyone considered molasses. I have always described Boba's as a molasses/pipe tobacco kinda taste?

 

[enoryt]

Just tried this, although substituted the cotton candy with FA Sweetner/EM (can't remember, amateur mistake of not writing it down), the results are pretty incredible. I've never had Boba's before, but this recipe is pretty awesome. I didn't let it steep much, but it tastes very similar to vaping monkey's Monkey Cream with tobacco. I think I may add a drop of cream in my next batch to get it closer to Monkey Cream, but otherwise, great tasting.

 

[Levitas]

Just tried this, although substituted the cotton candy with FA Sweetner/EM (can't remember, amateur mistake of not writing it down), the results are pretty incredible. I've never had Boba's before, but this recipe is pretty awesome. I didn't let it steep much, but it tastes very similar to vaping monkey's Monkey Cream with tobacco. I think I may add a drop of cream in my next batch to get it closer to Monkey Cream, but otherwise, great tasting, although I have no idea what Ave Boba tastes like.

Which recipe did you try?

 

[enoryt]

The OP's recipe, with B&M, Coconut, and sub'd EM/sweetner.

 

[Levitas]

Man, I still need to try this!

Alas, I am still waiting for my package I ordered almost 10 days ago... thus I reiterate, I hate you, USPS. :angryface: