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To note: Instead of going gun-ho as I have previously done, I am trying to narrow down feasible selections (flavorings) that could potentially be an actual ingredient in Boba's. That being said, I am attempting to avoid any PG-based flavorings for this recipe. The Almond and Cherry from LorAnn both lack PG, so, that's a good start. However, I am finding it difficult to find a cinnamon pastry that isn't PG-based (I know there are the alcohol based concentrates).

Same with the tobacco base, if there is an actual tobacco base in the recipe. In an effort to break the case, I am trying to deviate from newer companies, and keeping my suspicions directed towards those flavorings that are chronologically appropriate (i.e. Boba's has been around since '09?)

My suspicions still lead me to believe that some of these ingredients are procured from DIYflavorshack, particularly, the almond and cherry (as they never seem to be in stock, vg-based). Also, DIYflavorshack also offers VG-based tobacco flavors. And though I spoke with a representative from the company in hopes of them offering their tobacco flavorings without purchasing the whole shake and vape kit (which they had made mention that they were eventually going to do this), I have yet to actively pursue the quest of obtaining some to sample.

Again, just some thoughts on the situation. Keep up the good work everyone. Surely there is nothing we cannot accomplish with a steady resolve. :vapor:
 

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WAHOO!! SloHand, YOU ROCK!!

I got my order in yesterday for the Black and Mile +. Coconut, black honey tobacco, banana nut bread and the swirl. Even threw in some Captain tobacco.

Since I've made this mistake before, are these all 20 drops/ml? I have no idea how many drops/ml for White Vinegar!:blink:

Really looking forward to trying this. I'm new to DIY and my early attempts at recipes in this thread were not even remotely successful:oops:.

Drops per ml are different depending on the thinness or thickness of the juice and the bottle or dropper your using. So the best thing is to measure how many drops of what your dropping with equals a ml for small test batches. Then you can adjust the drops per ml in the calculator. For bigger batches it's easier to use a syringe.
 

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…Same with the tobacco base, if there is an actual tobacco base in the recipe. In an effort to break the case, I am trying to deviate from newer companies, and keeping my suspicions directed towards those flavorings that are chronologically appropriate (i.e. Boba's has been around since '09?)…

Is it possible that the tobacco in Boba's is at least partly TFA's Tobacco Absolute dissolved in VG or water or vinegar? I'm pretty new at DIY so I can't speak for the timeline of when that became available. Depending on how much is used, could that be a reason for how Boba's could be 40% flavoring? I have a dilution of TA of absolute in VG with some EM. The flavor isn't quite "it" for me.

As I said earlier, I'm not entirely convinced that there is any Tobacco Absolute in there (i just don't taste it), but I also can't say I have the most refined palate. eitano keeps bringing it up so I keep trying it :)
 

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Is it possible that the tobacco in Boba's is at least partly TFA's Tobacco Absolute dissolved in VG or water or vinegar? I'm pretty new at DIY so I can't speak for the timeline of when that became available. Depending on how much is used, could that be a reason for how Boba's could be 40% flavoring? I have a dilution of TA of absolute in VG with some EM. The flavor isn't quite "it" for me.

As I said earlier, I'm not entirely convinced that there is any Tobacco Absolute in there (i just don't taste it), but I also can't say I have the most refined palate. eitano keeps bringing it up so I keep trying it :)

As far as I remember, been awhile since had the original due to quitting the Nicotine, main reason for trying to clone.. BB has tiny particles floating in it, anyone pls. correct me if I`m wrong, that led me to think about the tobacco blend kinda same particles or if no alcohol in the original maybe a base blend made like 20% combined of distilled water also to thin the VG, 3-5% EM instead of the cotton candy for less PG and 2-4% tobacco absolute or extract from TPA, add to that all other flavorings toward 40% of the entire blend. What do you guys think!?
 
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I don't believe TA is 'it' either. I do believe that there is a vg based NET tho, given that it gunks up coils and is not available in 0 nic. I also am leaning towards a VG based tea extract. Back to the theory that Boba is a reference to Boba tea. Also the description on the website says " a unique T-BAC blend". T BAC = tea+tobacco. Plus black teas brew Red , would partially explain the color. I have been reading up on teas, my primary suspect is yunnan gold, a variety of black tea described as having raisin, malt, and tobacco notes. A vg tea extract could be relatively weak flavoring and thus require upwards of 20 percent by itself. The tobacco end of things may require a trip to the tobacconist. Those are the thoughts spinning in my mind during the Boba drought.
 

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I don't believe TA is 'it' either. I do believe that there is a vg based NET tho, given that it gunks up coils and is not available in 0 nic. I also am leaning towards a VG based tea extract. Back to the theory that Boba is a reference to Boba tea. Also the description on the website says " a unique T-BAC blend". T BAC = tea+tobacco. Plus black teas brew Red , would partially explain the color. I have been reading up on teas, my primary suspect is yunnan gold, a variety of black tea described as having raisin, malt, and tobacco notes. A vg tea extract could be relatively weak flavoring and thus require upwards of 20 percent by itself. The tobacco end of things may require a trip to the tobacconist. Those are the thoughts spinning in my mind during the Boba drought.

This could be true, but it also may be simpler than that. Boba Fett is from the Star Wars universe. T'Bac is basically a tobacco from Star Wars. I think it may just be a 'relevant-to-Boba-Fett' way of saying "Tobacco Blend".
 

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The use of the name Boba is very simply the creator being a fan, but hey I stumbled onto this on the Wookiepedia;

"Apart from his pay, which is considerable, Fett demanded only one thing: an unaltered clone for himself. Curious, isn't it?"

"Unaltered?"

"Pure genetic replication. No tampering with the structure to make it more docile, no behavior modification and no growth acceleration."

―Lama Su and Obi-Wan Kenobi, about Boba Fett[src]

Bahahahaha!

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The use of the name Boba is very simply the creator being a fan, but hey I stumbled onto this on the Wookiepedia;



Bahahahaha!

:rolleyes:

My plan has been after I get an awesome clone going is to print up labels that read "storm trooper" for them.

I'm in my phone otherwise I'd upload the label I designed.
 

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This could be true, but it also may be simpler than that. Boba Fett is from the Star Wars universe. T'Bac is basically a tobacco from Star Wars. I think it may just be a 'relevant-to-Boba-Fett' way of saying "Tobacco Blend".

I'm a Star Wars fan as well, but I don't recall any reference to t'bac:) also wasn't Boba the clone that Jango kept for himself?
 

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I'm a Star Wars fan as well, but I don't recall any reference to t'bac:) also wasn't Boba the clone that Jango kept for himself?

Depending on how much of a Star Wars fan you are…I wouldn't classify myself as a big fan. I haven't read any of the books but I do watch the trilogy at least twice a year.

But who knows. There might be detailed descriptions of tobaccos that are smoked in the novels or in the cartoon series or something. Imagine an author writing a detailed description of the smell and Ben just tried to recreate that. That would be hilarious.

I honestly think that it's called Boba's Bounty because it's a cool name named for a cool character in the films. I don't know Ben or know enough about him to know if he's *really* in to Star Wars or not.

I do giggle about the idea of a vaper pouring over stacks of Star Wars fiction in a library vaping away, searching for the hidden recipe.
 

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I'm a Star Wars fan as well, but I don't recall any reference to t'bac:) also wasn't Boba the clone that Jango kept for himself?

Tbh I've never heard/seen any reference to T'bac. I only saw a few of the movies and it was back when I was younger, so I wouldn't really call myself a fan, although the movies that I did see were pretty cool. This is where I learned of T'bac

T'bac - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki
 

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Just placed an order this morning for some LorAnn Almond and Cherry (as well as some LorAnn Strawberry, Caramel, and Banana, just for fun). I will post back with my results on your guys' recipe when they come in.

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That's exactly what I've got in the cart too. I'm still wavering on the Cherry, since it has sugar in it, and I need to find some tobaccos to try that aren't PG. Anyone find any, other than tobacco absolute? All the ones I've found that aren't PG based are alcohol based, guess those will have to do.
 

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That's exactly what I've got in the cart too. I'm still wavering on the Cherry, since it has sugar in it, and I need to find some tobaccos to try that aren't PG. Anyone find any, other than tobacco absolute? All the ones I've found that aren't PG based are alcohol based, guess those will have to do.

The TFA tobacco extract dissolves well in straight VG (but not in alcohol!), but you probably need to add some distilled water to get the em to dissolve. I mixed up the tobacco blend with 2 drops TE, 1/4 tsp em crystals, and 1/4 tsp SM commercial. Much of the em ended up precipitating out. Skip the seedmans if u want 0 pg. I added 2% of this to the most recent batch of eitanos blend and it is really nice. The TE flavor is not as dry as the TA IMO
 
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