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Slohand, forgive me but I was gonna make 10 mls of your #7 and dont understand what you mean by 15% flavor to base means. Ive got all the materials needed but dont have any base mixed up I just mix as I go. Is there anyway you could make a list based on these requirements? Thanks still figuring out the diy world, not keen on the % this or that I go by mls and put into e liquid manager lite app for android phones.
 

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Slohand, forgive me but I was gonna make 10 mls of your #7 and dont understand what you mean by 15% flavor to base means. Ive got all the materials needed but dont have any base mixed up I just mix as I go. Is there anyway you could make a list based on these requirements? Thanks still figuring out the diy world, not keen on the % this or that I go by mls and put into e liquid manager lite app for android phones.

That threw me for a curve initially also. I usually just go by #of drops of flavor for 5ml of juice and go from there.

There's a great free DIY app called ejuice Me Up. Grab it here:
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

Under the "Tools" pull-down menu, there's a tool called "Flavor Percentage". Just plug in what % of flavoring the recipe calls for at the top (in this case 15%), and then plug in the % of each ingredient called for in the recipe (must equal 100%) then hit "calculate" at the bottom. Voila; it will give you the amount of each ingredient you need to put into your final mix (total volume).

Nice tool . I also have an Android app that I store all my recipes on, and wish it could do this, but it's easy enough to use this tool to get the % per total volume and plug that into the app.

Have fun....
 

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That threw me for a curve initially also. I usually just go by #of drops of flavor for 5ml of juice and go from there.

There's a great free DIY app called ejuice Me Up. Grab it here:
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

Under the "Tools" pull-down menu, there's a tool called "Flavor Percentage". Just plug in what % of flavoring the recipe calls for at the top (in this case 15%), and then plug in the % of each ingredient called for in the recipe (must equal 100%) then hit "calculate" at the bottom. Voila; it will give you the amount of each ingredient you need to put into your final mix (total volume).

Nice tool . I also have an Android app that I store all my recipes on, and wish it could do this, but it's easy enough to use this tool to get the % per total volume and plug that into the app.

Have fun....

Havent has much success with this app but I will try it now that it makes sense with the way you described it. Thanks!
 

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O.K.

I gave it a shot. Clone #7, 10ml base at 14mg nic with 15% flavoring.

How long are you guys steeping this stuff? I gave it a water bath and an overnight soak...The vinegar (I think) is OVERPOWERING. I added 3 drops to 10 mls. Am I way off here?

Thanks!

When I plug the #7 recipe into my juice calculator, it says to only use 2 drops for 10ML (.87% of total volume). Remember - the recipe is based on 15% flavorings to base , not 15% of total volume.

BTW...the vinegar will tone down after a day or two (I've used it in other juices), just leave the cap off. You will probably need to bring the other ingredients up a bit to compensate for the excess vinegar, or just dump it & start anew....I hate to even think of all the $$ I've dumped down the drain because I've messed up somewhere along the line...just part of the learning experience.

Good luck...
 
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When I plug the #7 recipe into my juice calculator, it says to only use 2 drops for 10ML (.87% of total volume). Remember - the recipe is based on 15% flavorings to base , not 15% of total volume.

This where I get lost, the percentage to base and not total volume has my head spinning, the ejuice me up app didnt provide any help either.
 

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When I plug the #7 recipe into my juice calculator, it says to only use 2 drops for 10ML (.87% of total volume). Remember - the recipe is based on 15% flavorings to base , not 15% of total volume.

This where I get lost, the percentage to base and not total volume has my head spinning, the ejuice me up app didnt provide any help either.

I can't seem to attach files to these posts, but if you send me a PM with your email address in it, I can send you my .rec file to load into the ejuice Me Up app for Boba's #7 ... just open the "File" menu in the app & hit "Open" and away you go...
BTW... mine is set for 36% Nic juice with a final nic % of 6mg/ml, but you can adjust that to your needs within the app.

Good luck


EDIT : I forgot I had a Mediafire account (getting old is no fun), so here's the file - you can download it from there:
http://www.mediafire.com/?v8zll64vzi5ow7u
 
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Boba's Clone #7
Black and Mile Plus 40.0%
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 20.0%
Almond oil 20.0%
Coconut 7.1%
Graham Cracker 7.1%
Vinegar 5.8%

I know some are confused by the add 15% to base, but, know that this doesn't have to replicate 100% to get the desired outcome. The way I see it is 15% of 10mls is 1.5mls (of flavoring). Now, it's all proportions.

Black and Mile Plus 0.6ml
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 0.3ml
Almond oil 0.3ml
Coconut 0.12ml
Graham Cracker 0.12ml
Vinegar 0.09ml

Equals 1.5mls of flavoring.
 

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Another way to think of it:
IF the percentages in the recipe add up to 100% (and they do), you are looking at 15%(.15) of 40% Black and Mild Plus... equals 5%, so the recipe calls for 6% B&M Plus, no matter what volume of juice you are mixing. The same is true for each flavoring.
Almond Oil calls for 20% in the recipe, so 15% of 20% is 3%. etc
I think it's better to give a recipe in these final numbers. These numbers should add up to 15% of the total volume of the mix.

It's just two different ways to achieve the same goal
 

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Another way to think of it:
IF the percentages in the recipe add up to 100% (and they do), you are looking at 15%(.15) of 40% Black and Mild Plus... equals 5%, so the recipe calls for 6% B&M Plus, no matter what volume of juice you are mixing. The same is true for each flavoring.
Almond Oil calls for 20% in the recipe, so 15% of 20% is 3%. etc
I think it's better to give a recipe in these final numbers. These numbers should add up to 15% of the total volume of the mix.

It's just two different ways to achieve the same goal

It must be the metric way of mixing ;)
 

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I know some are confused by the add 15% to base, but, know that this doesn't have to replicate 100% to get the desired outcome. The way I see it is 15% of 10mls is 1.5mls (of flavoring). Now, it's all proportions.

Black and Mile Plus 0.6ml
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 0.3ml
Almond oil 0.3ml
Coconut 0.12ml
Graham Cracker 0.12ml
Vinegar 0.09ml

Equals 1.5mls of flavoring.

That is correct! Aubie, Levitas has it. This is how it should be calculated.
 

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I know some are confused by the add 15% to base, but, know that this doesn't have to replicate 100% to get the desired outcome. The way I see it is 15% of 10mls is 1.5mls (of flavoring). Now, it's all proportions.

Black and Mile Plus 0.6ml
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 0.3ml
Almond oil 0.3ml
Coconut 0.12ml
Graham Cracker 0.12ml
Vinegar 0.09ml

Equals 1.5mls of flavoring.

That is correct! Aubie, Levitas has it. This is how it should be calculated.

Sorry to be a picker of nits, but the sum of these numbers is 1.53 ml not 1.5 ml. And the numbers do need to be 100% or it doesn't make any sense
 
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Sorry to be a picker of nits, but the sum of these numbers is 1.53 ml not 1.5 ml. And the numbers do need to be 100% or it doesn't make any sense

Based on a 10 ml batch, I doubt 3/1000 of a percent will affect the flavor much... The margin of error in general is much bigger than that I would think, even using pretty accurate syringe.
 
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Sorry to be a picker of nits, but the sum of these numbers is 1.53 ml not 1.5 ml. And the numbers do need to be 100% or it doesn't make any sense

Yeah, I didn't mention that I rounded (didn't think I needed to). I don't foresee three one hundredths altering the recipe to a noticeable extent ;)
 

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Boba's Clone #7
Black and Mile Plus 40.0%
Cinnamon Danish Swirl 20.0%
Almond oil 20.0%
Coconut 7.1%
Graham Cracker 7.1%
Vinegar 5.8%

#7 "Don't tell anyone, ssh!"

This is good, but not quite it, in my opinion. It's actually pretty tasty fresh, I'm thinking of either 1.) adding a little bit of the cherry, or, 2.) finishing it off, then remaking it with the cherry. Still though, it's pretty damn good.
 

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Precise is precise.. Sloppy is sloppy. If, instead of making a 10 ml batch, you decide to make a 100ml batch, then .03 makes a measurable difference.
If someone gives you a recipe calling for 7.1% of something, then they mean 7.1% NOT 7%.
I'm not trying to be a jerk but if you want a repeatable result, then precision is called for. If repeatability is NOT important, then you can mix a batch with a drop of this and a dash of that plus a pinch of the other.
Call me ...., but every batch I make from a recipe contains the same ingredients.. within the margin of error of my measuring instruments.
 

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This is good, but not quite it, in my opinion. It's actually pretty tasty fresh, I'm thinking of either 1.) adding a little bit of the cherry, or, 2.) finishing it off, then remaking it with the cherry. Still though, it's pretty damn good.

Levitas, I can't agree with you more! keep in mind that this is the result of lots of different taste buds :) But I think your right and I said as much to eitano #7 in my mind needs cherry too.
 
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