My bolt melted down, innards smoking hot to the touch. Like it had radiation poisoning or something.

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Ray Manza

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So is this how the Smoktech Bolt rolls? I had it for all of two days before the spring burned up (Restretched it) then the button died when the wiring inside melted. My question is: Am I going to blow my face off while vaping? Am I going to blow my junk off while it's in my pocket? Are these made in North Korea? Are they little mini terrorist attacks?

mad vapes is replacing my chrome one with a Amber one. I want to put a kick in it, but I also don't want to leave my children fatherless.

What's the deal? Thoughts? Opinons? Might it have something to do with my vivi nova tanks?

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I've ran dual 18350s with dual cartomizers for a end resistance of around 2 ohms. That's a LOT of power, and the hot spring never failed. 99% sure this is a short.

Likely what's going on here is a short somewhere in your atty/carto and/or 510 connection. Either tightening the heads down too much and squishing the rubber insulator ring on the Bolt's 510 connection, causing the positive and negative to make a connection, shorting out.

Or, if you are using some type of clearo system, those can also short out. The floating positive connection, which flows current through the center pin of the Bolt's connection to the center pin of the replaceable head moves depending on where it has room to move.

If you have the clearo unscrewed from a device, and tightly screw the top cap down it will cause the 510's center pin to stick out more. If you remove the top cap, and screw the clearo onto the device, it will cause the center pin to stick up more inside the coil head to base connection. Either way, if too much pressure is in the wrong area, it will squish the insulator and short out.

The space inside the Bolt's head is pretty cramped, it's possible a wire got pinched somewhere and shorted out against the body. The bolt uses the body as the ground, and has a single wire coming from the connection's center pin, to the switch, then from the switch to the positive connection for the battery. If one of these was touching the body, it would cause a short. It would likely have to be the top wire, the one that attaches to the 510 connector, because if it was the wire coming from the battery to the switch, it would have shorted out and fried the second the battery was connected, not only when the switch is depressed.

The switch in the bolts is crappy IMHO, but its death results in poor performance and low power, not shorting and catching fire. I'm 99% positive it's either a short in your 510 connection (bolt or heads) or something inside if the heads. The wire shorting out in the head is possible but unlikely.
 

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I bought the bolt with the 18650 extension, I used 18650 ultrafire 3000 mah batteries. It would warm up in my pocket often and then eventually died completely. Did I shaft myself by buying the crappiest batteries amazon offers? I have the red ones that came with my provari that I could try.
Personally not a fan of any batteries with "-fire" in the name. I had a "protected" Trustfire battery vent inside a BB, pictured below.

Trustfire2.jpgBB.jpg

I find it ironic that you noticed the Bolt "warm up in my pocket". That is exactly what caused my BB's battery to vent. Both the Bolt and the BB have a protruding horn firing button, as shown in the second pic. These buttons are very prone to accidental firing when in an enclosed tight space like a pants pocket. If allowed to fire continuously, this can cause the battery to short and go into thermal runaway, causing the hot spring to collapse and possibly frying the switch.

Advice for the day:

1 - Don't use any battery with "fire" in the name.

2 - Use a vape safe mod fuse Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2 (Don't depend upon the cheap protective circuits in protected NCR batteries to avoid a battery meltdown.)

3 - Use one of the better brand batteries such as AW, Panasonic, or Efest.

4 - Don't put your Bolt in tightly enclosed places without either removing the battery or the juice delivery device first to break the electric circuit. PV's with a horn switch are not pocket-friendly.
 
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First of all, when a spring burns up or collapses its telling you there is a major problem The collapse happens to protect you. Never restretch the spring and just continue to use the APV You need to figure out WHY it happened and fix the problem before inserting a new spring and using the APV again.

Second, no APV should be getting warm in your pocket. The switch was being pushed accidently and causing the APV to overheat.

I'm also not a fan of ultrafire batteries BUT it does sound like in your case it was user error that caused the problem not the battery itself. Your APV overheated because the switch was being held down in your pocket. And yes, your junk could get blown off if you continue to let any APV fire in your pocket for an extented period of time 8-o
 
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For the record, the bolt was heating up near the spring even just sitting on a table by itself. The issue didn't arise from continuous firing of the button. I have a spring shaped burn in my hand from opening it up without letting it cool. I was curious, if it is a lack of protection that is the issue with these "trustfire" "onfire" (lol) and in my case potentially "housefire" brand batteries is this something that a Kick could help alleviate? I have and love a provari but I got the bolt for back up (and because I just can't stop myself from buying more e-cig related goodies) and because it becomes a VW when I put a kick in it. So is the kick a good idea safety wise? Or am I just jacking up the electricity to better blow my teeth out through the back of my head?

XOXO - All of your info has been very appreciated.
 

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For the record, the bolt was heating up near the spring even just sitting on a table by itself. The issue didn't arise from continuous firing of the button. I have a spring shaped burn in my hand from opening it up without letting it cool. I was curious, if it is a lack of protection that is the issue with these "trustfire" "onfire" (lol) and in my case potentially "housefire" brand batteries is this something that a Kick could help alleviate? I have and love a provari but I got the bolt for back up (and because I just can't stop myself from buying more e-cig related goodies) and because it becomes a VW when I put a kick in it. So is the kick a good idea safety wise? Or am I just jacking up the electricity to better blow my teeth out through the back of my head?

XOXO - All of your info has been very appreciated.

If the thing was heating up sitting on the table, not being fired, it's definitely a short somewhere in the Bolt. There should be no current path when the button isn't being pressed, if it's heating up on its own that means there is.

Either rebuild the bolt with a new switch, hot spring, and wires, or toss it. Those are really your only safe options.
 
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