my diy ejuice is horrible

[canoeist]

I have been vaping some juice with 6% EM and it was a little harsh. I just added 2 drops of lemon juice to 3ml and it smoothed it out a good bit. Tomorrow I will try one drop to 3ml and compare. There is no telling how long the lemon juice has been in the fridge. Can't wait to get some fresh lemon juice and some apple cider vinegar. Glad I found this thread, thanks a lot!

 

[Shilo]

Yep, 2ml of flavoring is 6% of 33.33ml not 10ml

6% of 10ml is 0.6ml

Thats what I thought 2 ml would be 20 percent caramel flavoring in a 10 ml base not 6 percent.

 

[Tona Aspsusa]

I have been vaping some juice with 6% EM and it was a little harsh. I just added 2 drops of lemon juice to 3ml and it smoothed it out a good bit.

Verrry interesting. I just recently experimented with a previous blend by tuning down the flavours used and adding one drop vinegar and one drop 10%EM (in 10ml - yes, I am über cautious), and my first impression was that the vinegar was a mistake. Weird irritating sweetness, my throat liked it even less than my palate.

I wouldn't initially have called it "harshness", since it was a very sweet taste/feel. But if I think about how my throat feels after vaping it, "harshness" is pretty spot on.

After thinking and vaping some more I decided that maybe it was the EM that I just don't like. So I compared to another, sloppier, blend, where I had also added about this much vinegar, but no EM. Yup, not the fault of the vinegar.

Why I should be so sensitive to the EM is weird. People say it doesn't really taste like anything in low concentration. Well maybe it doesn't, but it *feels* to me like burnt/caramellized sugar. Or at least it does when combined with M-type (tabanone) and my home-brew extraction.

But vinegar/lemonjuice/other acids are worth experimenting with - and it seems that it is hard to mess things up if one carefully adds 1 drp/5ml, let it steep at least a day, and then taste.

 

[lulu836]

Possibly my sentence structure is the reason for some confusion. I made a mixture of caramel with 20% flavoring.
The nic base is 36%. The final mixture is 6%. PG/VG ratio is 70/30. Volume of final mixture is 10ml.

1.67 ml nic ejuice @ 36mg strength
3.33 ml PG
3ml VG
2ml 100% PG flavoring

Now I need to take myself over to the Vinegar?? thread and read from back to front. I started it last night but it was late so I didn't get to finish it. Thanks for the link.

 

[Tona Aspsusa]

Possibly my sentence structure is the reason for some confusion. I made a mixture of caramel with 20% flavoring.
The nic base is 36%. The final mixture is 6%. PG/VG ratio is 70/30. Volume of final mixture is 10ml.

1.67 ml nic ejuice @ 36mg strength
3.33 ml PG
3ml VG
2ml 100% PG flavoring

Eh, I still don't get - ahaa! You are writing % above when you mean mg/ml?

So you have a liquid that is 6mg/ml nic strength, and 20% flavouring - is this correct?

If so, first thing I would do is try again, but with the flavouring really low, like at 3-5%.
Edited To Add: Do this while perusing the vinegar thread, your problem might just be far too much flavouring.

 

[lulu836]

I think I need to dump everything I've made an attempt at and start clean. Sorry if my terminology sucks but the voices in my head know what I mean I'll see y'all on down the road. Thanks.

 

[AzPlumber]

Possibly my sentence structure is the reason for some confusion. I made a mixture of caramel with 20% flavoring.
The nic base is 36%. The final mixture is 6%. PG/VG ratio is 70/30. Volume of final mixture is 10ml.

1.67 ml nic ejuice @ 36mg strength
3.33 ml PG
3ml VG
2ml 100% PG flavoring

Now I need to take myself over to the Vinegar?? thread and read from back to front. I started it last night but it was late so I didn't get to finish it. Thanks for the link.

Ok Lulu I understand where you're at and yes try lowering your flavor to 10%. No need to through it out just add pg/vg/nic to total 20ml. Or take half and increase it to 10mg. Then you want to wait a few days before judging it.

One note to add: 36mg nic base is 3.6% and 6mg is .6%

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

Ya, if you're using 20% capellas caramel that's waaaay too much! I'd do what AZ suggested and add your nic, pg, vg again minus the flavoring, which would take it down to 10%. Personally, I like Cap caramel at right around 5%...20 would have me heaving

 

[sh_]

thanks guys!!!

now all i need to know...do I toss the ones I don't like or tweak them by adding little bit here and little bit there ...if i do that I'm worried that if i get the one i like i won't remember how much of what was in it

maybe i should just toss it, rinse the bottle and start over...but with 3ml sample only (even though it will make the calculations a pain in the booty), so I don't waste my nic or pg and vg and flavors...right??

I did that too, but the secret is take not of everything that you're doing and you will end up having a final recipe. Bear in mind that you will have to wait at least 24 hours, thats the minimum to get some steep and to the flavor comes out of your mix.

With tabacco flavors, give it a week of steeping, its all I can say. Unfortunately its true about tabacco flavors.

 

[lulu836]

For the sake of clarity I am posting a pic of the ejuicemeup recipe for Capella's Orange Creamsicle that I made up two days ago. After steeping for 2 days it tastes like air. No flavor, lots of vapor but absolutely no flavor at all. All ingredients were measured with syringes. How would any of you tweak this recipe for flavor? Also it seems a tad harsh on the throat hit.

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

For the sake of clarity I am posting a pic of the ejuicemeup recipe for Capella's Orange Popcicle that I made up two days ago. After steeping for 2 days it tastes like air. No flavor, lots of vapor but absolutely no flavor at all. All ingredients were measured with syringes. How would any of you tweak this recipe for flavor?

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I'd love to help, but there's no way these old eyes can read that

 

[lulu836]

I know what you mean but the forum seems to make the upload smaller than the actual picture.

 

[Str8V8ping]

I use photobucket to upload the pictures and just copy the img code here . That way its full size

 

[GoodDog]

So you added 10% flavoring and the calculations look right. Next step is to raise the % of flavoring. For most people many of Capella's flavorings need 15-20% unless they're a super taster. This may be one of those flavors...I've never tried it so I don't know what % is recommended. Maybe someone that has used it will chime in. I would try 15% and see if that helps. There isn't as much need to steep it since it's a single flavor and a fruit so I would test it right away to get an idea then if it's close let it steep.

 

[lulu836]

Bet you guys hate to see my name come up on the postings...........LOL. Anyway I have another question. When the flavor goes up the PG/VG percentages go up as well. I have buckets of commercial flavors at 60/40. 70/30 and 80/20. I know from reading here that the commercial juices have all types of enhancers and extra goodies but just in an everyday world why do the PG/VG advances not make the finished juice as weak as before the flavor incrase?

 

[lulu836]

Every forum I read has a different part of the IMG tag they accept for pics. This one is no different. Since I can't use the HTML, which part of the IMG tag is needed to post a full size pic from Photobucket?

 

[GoodDog]

Lulu, you just increase the flavor not the PG/VG. If you also increased the PG/VG you are right it would be the same %. What you're wanting to do is just increase the flavor %.

 

[canoeist]

I was using some that was a little harsh too. After reading the vinegar thread, I added one small drop of lemon juice to 10ml and it took the harshness away. 10ml only costs me around 50 cents so no big deal to try something. Just keep notes so you remember what you did to it.....Good luck

 

[Str8V8ping]

Every forum I read has a different part of the IMG tag they accept for pics. This one is no different. Since I can't use the HTML, which part of the IMG tag is needed to post a full size pic from Photobucket?

Every forum iv been on is the same and that is the IMG CODE not Html

It should start like this