My Doctor wouldn´t approve but I think you would :)

[Dan40]

I went to see my doctor today for some routine stuff. I mentioned vaping as a possibility about a year ago and he didn´t have a very positive opinion of it. I didn´t mention it today when I went but the truth is:

- I haven´t had even one cig in 24 days.
- I smoked for 40 years smoking 2 and half packs a day the last years.
- I have been vaping about 4ml of juice at 18mg nic a day.

He might not be impressed but I am. I am not even sure if I have quite, I just haven´t had a cig a day at a time for 24 days

PS I have calculated the money I have saved in the last 24 days and the the startup money I spent on vaping and I am now at 0

 

[leftyandsparky]

Congratulations!

 

[Baditude]

Congratuations!!

I smoked for over 30 years. I tried the nicotine gum/patches, anti-smoking drugs, and even hypnosis, but none helped me to quit. Only after using e-cigarettes was I able to quit smoking. It's been 5 years since I've touched a cigarette and I don't miss them one bit.

Some members of the medical community haven't learned the harm reduction of electronic cigarettes. You can't really blame them because of the "junk science" propaganda that the pharmaceutical companies and Big Tobacco have put out. They all have a lot to lose if e-cigarettes take money out of their pockets.

If you need hard facts on the harm reduction of e-cigarettes, go to the CASAA website.

 

[bwh79]

Most docs are in bed with Big Pharma, which means they are very much not on board with vaping. Mine's biggest reason against vaping is the whole "there are so many chemicals in them that we don't even know about." I told her I make my own liquid, unflavored, and so I know exactly what chemicals are in it, there are only three, and that I can pronounce all three of them. She wasn't having it. Just rolled her eyes and said "well..." and left it at that, as if to say "well I don't have a rebuttal to that argument but I still believe you are wrong." At least I got one of her assistants to write "former smoker" on my chart.

 

[VNeil]

Most docs are in bed with Big Pharma, which means they are very much not on board with vaping. Mine's biggest reason against vaping is the whole "there are so many chemicals in them that we don't even know about." I told her I make my own liquid, unflavored, and so I know exactly what chemicals are in it, there are only three, and that I can pronounce all three of them. She wasn't having it. Just rolled her eyes and said "well..." and left it at that, as if to say "well I don't have a rebuttal to that argument but I still believe you are wrong." At least I got one of her assistants to write "former smoker" on my chart.

It's a shame we cannot rely on our doctors anymore

 

[AzPlumber]

I would look for another Doctor.

 

[Baditude]

It's a shame we cannot rely on our doctors anymore

Some physicians have an open mind and are pro vaping. All my docs are or they aren't my docs anymore.

 

[Dan40]

The truth is I haven´t told very many people because I don´t believe it will last but each day I decide that today I not going to smoke and I don´t. The longest I every went was 10 days about 30 years ago cold turkey. It was horrible and I never wanted to go through that again.

 

[GaryInTexas]

My doctor has me listed as ex-smoker for the last 3 years. That's good enough for me.

 

[mattiem]

Congratulations on your 24 days!!!!!!!!!!

I took it one day at a time. I haven't had a smoke since November 2011 after smoking for over 45 years. My doctor listed me as an ex-smoker well over 4 years ago. At first she TRIED to tell me that we just don't know enough yet. I am slowly bringing her around by letting her know what a lot of us here already know.

 

[VNeil]

Congratulations on your 24 days!!!!!!!!!!

I took it one day at a time. I haven't had a smoke since November 2011 after smoking for over 45 years. My doctor listed me as an ex-smoker well over 4 years ago. At first she TRIED to tell me that we just don't know enough yet. I am slowly bringing her around by letting her know what a lot of us here already know.

Twenty years from now will we finally know enough?

 

[bwh79]

I would look for another Doctor.

I can't, as she's assigned by my insurance. I did call and ask to be switched, once (not even because she's a quack, I just wanted to see someone at the other clinic which is closer to my house), and was told "everyone is full up, but you can try again later if you want."

But I've no room to complain, really, as they did (probably, looks good so far) cure my cancer last year and have never asked me for a cent. And I hear those treatments are expensive (they don't even tell me how much, I get a list of services they covered but not what they paid for them.) I'll take the odd disapproving look here and there, I guess, if that's what it takes. (They're also the ones who told me I had the cancer in the first place. Maybe it's all a big sham, an excuse to put tubes in me and draw blood samples for the alien overlords. If that's their game, though, it seems there'd be easier ways to get it done...)

 

[mattiem]

Twenty years from now will we finally know enough?

One can hope that those opposed will finally have their eyes opened but I am not holding my breath. There are those that will NEVER think they know enough

 

[Vandal]

The truth is I haven´t told very many people because I don´t believe it will last but each day I decide that today I not going to smoke and I don´t. The longest I every went was 10 days about 30 years ago cold turkey. It was horrible and I never wanted to go through that again.

Hang in there! People can go through withdrawals for a time from the chemicals in tobacco that get you hooked. Some get them worse than others. Mine were relatively mild and lasted 2-3 weeks. I knew as long as I had my nic, I'd be okay. Regaining your health is so worth it. Breaking the chains from Big Tobacco feels very satisfying in and of itself.

One day (or hour) at a time.

 

[nclobo]

The truth is I haven´t told very many people because I don´t believe it will last but each day I decide that today I not going to smoke and I don´t. The longest I every went was 10 days about 30 years ago cold turkey. It was horrible and I never wanted to go through that again.

So, here's the trick. Don't buy another pack of cigs. Turn it into a contest or whatever with yourself and see how long you can go without buying another pack. I quit by deciding not to smoke at work anymore. Left the cigs at home and only vaped. For the first couple of days, I would chain smoke when I got home. A few days of that and the urge to smoke when getting home lessened. Once I was out of cigs, I decided to see how long I could go without buying more. That was over 2 yrs ago and haven't bought any since. It's not as difficult as it seems.

And, congratulations on your progress!

 

[mostlyclassics]

"We just don't know enough yet."

This is pure BS.

We do know enough by now about almost all e-liquid chemicals. Some of this is information by proxy, but it's still information.

With regard to long-term exposure to inhaled PG, remember that it was used in many hospital ventilation systems for over 40 years, from roughly 1940, when its germicidal properties were discovered, until the 1980's, when micropore filtering replaced it. Extra doses were pumped into operating rooms and neonatal rooms. Many surgeons, obstetricians, OR and natal nurses spent 40-80 hours per week inhaling air saturated with PG for their entire careers. If there had been any problems with inhaling PG long-term, we would have medical personnel corpses stacked across the landscape like chord-wood.

With regard to flavorings, flavoring manufacturers have been around for a century. With the exception of those "buttery" flavors (which haven't been in e-liquids for some years), there have been no deaths attributed to any vaporized flavors among flavoring workers, many of whom spend their entire careers inhaling air saturated with vaporized flavorings.

With regard to inhaled nicotine, nearly every study shows that nicotine, by itself, is about as harmful as caffeine. Nearly everyone so inclined inhales nicotine; drinking tea brewed from tobacco leaves is downright nasty.

The only thing we really don't know about is VG inhaled long-term. But the stuff is "generally recognized as safe" by the FDA.

 

[VNeil]

I quit when I came to understand that the only way I could quit was to never take another puff. That was almost 2years ago. Foolproof method

 

[mostlyclassics]

So, here's the trick. Don't buy another pack of cigs. Turn it into a contest or whatever with yourself and see how long you can go without buying another pack. I quit by deciding not to smoke at work anymore. Left the cigs at home and only vaped. For the first couple of days, I would chain smoke when I got home. A few days of that and the urge to smoke when getting home lessened. Once I was out of cigs, I decided to see how long I could go without buying more. That was over 2 yrs ago and haven't bought any since. It's not as difficult as it seems.

What an excellent idea, nclobo!

Here's an amplification of it. Find a great big glass jar and put it in a prominent place in your house. At the end of every day, for every pack of smokes you didn't buy, throw the cash saved into the jar. So, if a pack of smokes is $9.50 in your area, and you avoided smoking that pack, throw $9.50 in the jar.

If it only takes a week or so to wean yourself completely off the analogs, then you can buy yourself a nice dinner or a fancy mod. If it takes you longer, then after a few months, you can take a vacation!

Needless to say, if anyone asks, you tell him or her what you're doing.

 

[Dan40]

I appreciate the support.

I will tell my doctor after some more time passes. He is a good doctor and those are hard to come by sometimes.

All of this "We just don´t know" always leaves me with the same answer "we DO know what are in cigs."

 

[crxess]

My doctor has me listed as ex-smoker for the last 3 years. That's good enough for me.

That will change with Law

I hope all of you have Signed @Lessifer Petition to Revoke FDA Deeming