My FIRST VAPE!!!

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Forget the syringe, pain in the .... if you are using cartomizers use the condom method.

Step 1: take off the plastic caps on the ends
Step 2: fill one cap 1/2
Step 3: slowly slide the cartomizer into it
Step 4: Liquid is forced into the cartomizer
Step 5: DONE

One cap end should have nothing sticking out inside in the middle, and the other will. Use the cap end with nothing sticking out inside of it...
 
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ok, so to follow up a little. I just filled another cart with the HC apple. Per my syringe, it took about 0.7ml - 0.8ml of liquid.
The HC is 70/30 mix, so it explains why I am getting a tad more vapor from it. I have to say tho, I'll puff on it some more, but the first 5 puffs or so actually seems like its a bit harsher and not as nice tasting as the dekang blueberry was. Seems the opposite of what TheBuss was saying, so i'll puff on it a bit more and revisit that observation hehe.
I did the paperclip trick to let the air get out of the cart while I was filling it, so I did that also and topped off the blueberry dekang and i'll see if that tastes/vapes any different now too :)

Did you drop 2 or 3 drops onto the bridge of the atomizer?
 

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No, i didnt drop anything onto the atomizer, just filled the cart. Thanks for the advice on the cartomizers, I guess when this atomizer goes out on me, i'll order those instead. I just didnt want to spend too much on my first order, is why I only got one atomizer and 10 blank carts. Is $8 a pop for cartomizers the typical cost for those suckers?
Thanks for the condom method too, I will definitely try that when I have some cartomizers to fill (saw someone's vid on that the other day, maybe yours?)
 

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Forget the syringe, pain in the .... if you are using cartomizers use the condom method.

Step 1: take off the plastic caps on the ends
Step 2: fill one cap 1/2
Step 3: slowly slide the cartomizer into it
Step 4: Liquid is forced into the cartomizer
Step 5: DONE

A syringe is not needed when filling cartos using the direct dripping method. I only use a 10mL syringe and rubber cone when cleaning (flushing) cartos. The direct dripping method (which is what you'll end up doing after you've had more experience) has the following steps:

Step 1: Remove the mouth end cap
Step 2: Drip 16 to 18 drops from your liquid mixture bottle directly into the filler while holding the carto at a 45-degree angle.
Step 3: Replace the mouth end cap

By the way, you forgot some steps when doing the condom method:

Step 5: Clean condom used to refill the carto
Step 6: Clean desk or area where you refilled the carto
Step 7: Clean the outside and both ends of the refilled carto. Isopropyl alcohol is the best cleaning agent to use.
Step 8: Discard tissues and/or q-tips used to clean up the mess in steps 5 through 7
Step 9: Stock up on tissues and q-tips, if you plan on using the condom method, instead of the much quicker and much less messy direct drip method
Step 10: DONE
 

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Forget the atomizer!!!! LOL. As mentioned i think using them is stupid at best - except for the handful of great hits you can get. use cartomizers - for now. Toy with all that later....

I was replying to the poster who is using cartridges, which means he or she is using an atomizer. I switched from atties to cartos a long time ago, three days after I started vaping.
 

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No, i didnt drop anything onto the atomizer, just filled the cart. Thanks for the advice on the cartomizers, I guess when this atomizer goes out on me, i'll order those instead. I just didnt want to spend too much on my first order, is why I only got one atomizer and 10 blank carts. Is $8 a pop for cartomizers the typical cost for those suckers?
Thanks for the condom method too, I will definitely try that when I have some cartomizers to fill (saw someone's vid on that the other day, maybe yours?)

Forget the condom method. It's more time-consuming and more messy than the direct drip method I mentioned.

$8 for five cartos is not bad. Each carto should last up to three weeks, if you are rotating about 15 cartos during that time. I'm still using cartos I bought in mid-September.
 

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No, i didnt drop anything onto the atomizer, just filled the cart. Thanks for the advice on the cartomizers, I guess when this atomizer goes out on me, i'll order those instead. I just didnt want to spend too much on my first order, is why I only got one atomizer and 10 blank carts. Is $8 a pop for cartomizers the typical cost for those suckers?
Thanks for the condom method too, I will definitely try that when I have some cartomizers to fill (saw someone's vid on that the other day, maybe yours?)

If you're receiving a burnt taste or no vapor, try dripping 2 or 3 drops of liquid onto the bridge at the bottom of the atomizer....the little u-shaped thing with mesh covering it. This will get the coil inside the atty wet, so it will vape much better. The juice from the inner cart sometimes doesn't get wicked up to the coil very well, so drippers usually have to drip 2 or 3 drops into the atty for every 8 to 10 vapes. Many of us have switched to using cartos. That part of Buss's advice you can trust and believe.
 
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All I have to say is keep it simple. FORGET the atomizer. They shouldn't even sell it to news, IMO. You simply take a battery and connect a cartomizer to it and puff. The entire atomizer thing for someone new is stupid. That is something to toy with later.

You don't have to convince me. I was saying that over and over about five weeks ago here, but nobody listened. So I quit posting about it.
 

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It takes more than 5 seconds to fill one, because you have to include all the time spent dripping into the condom and cleaning up the mess and cleaning the whole outside of the carto.

Just try it both ways. Time yourself both ways. You'll find that it's quicker and less messy just dripping into the filler. I don't know why that's so hard to understand. It's the way most of the long-time users of cartos are doing it. Why wouldn't you want to save some time and mess? I used the condom method for about 3 weeks. Then I remembered and realized that just dripping 16 drops into the filler is way better. Now I fill each one when I change cartos, instead of using the condom method to refill about 12 at a time.
 

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You don't have to convince me. I was saying that over and over about five weeks ago here, but nobody listened. So I quit posting about it.

LOL, ok. i 100% agree with you. The atty/combo should not be sold to newbs.... The ONLY benefit is 1 or 2 hits, as we both know....it has little value other than that.
 
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No way. I squirt (not count drops) 1/2 of a cap. I slide the carto in. Pull it out, wipe it off. DONE. No way it takes me more than 5 seconds.

There is ONLY one drawback of doing this, you lose a teeny amount of liquid on the sides. Oh well. I sacrifice this for ease. Others can do the drip thing if they prefer, but I find it to be a waste of my time. I think it is complete silliness.
 
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LOL, ok. i 100% agree with you. The atty/combo should NOT be sold to newbs.... The ONLY benefit is 1 or 2 hits, as we both know....it has no value other than that.

Well, when I used the atty/cart combo during my first 3 days of vaping, I was able to get many more than 1 or 2 hits from each pre-filled cartridge. But it didn't take me long to switch to cartos, that's for sure.
 
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It does take more than 5 seconds. You keep forgetting about the mess to clean up, cleaning all parts of the carto, wiping the juice out of your mouth, wiping the threaded end, wiping the inside of the mouth end, etc. Yes, when I used the condom method, I squirted juice into the condom -- or poured it in, actually. Also, it's better to gradually let the juice soak into the filler rather than sliding it in within 5 seconds. You're likely flooding your fillers, causing clogs, hard to draw, hard to get vapor, flavor, and THs, resulting in needing to blow out the excess juice too often, needing to do the taryn spin to remove excess juice, or flushing them to remove excess juice.

I'm telling ya, you'll end up switching to the direct drip method eventually. Trust me on this...
 

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Well, when I used the atty/cart combo during my first 3 days of vaping, I was able to get many more than 1 or 2 hits from each pre-filled cartridge. But it take take me long to switch to cartos, that's for sure.

Well, i think it is because i have a LR atomizer - it sucks juice. But there is no other reason to use an atomizer (other than dripping). if you aren't after a couple of good hits, an atty serves no other purpose - none. We both agree.
 
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Well there was my first problem, I thought it was $8 for ONE cartomizer lol. What I get for not looking closer. So indeed, from a price standpoint it was pretty stupid for me to get an atomizer and 10 carts, as the one atomizer was $8 lol.
Live and learn, it'll be cartomizers from here on out. Am still not quite sure how a cartomizer and the empty carts I have are any different, but I guess I'll find out when I get cartomizers.
My empty cart I just filled took .8 mil of liquid (you said cartomizers hold 1mil, so not that much diff). As far as ease, the cart has the filler and filling seems like it'd be the same for filling a cartomizer? I just pop the cart into the atomizer and puff away?
Anyhow, I guess I'll see if its easier when I get around to ordering some carto's.
I did just try by the way dripping 2 drops of liquid right onto the atomizer, putting the blank cart with no filler that the atomizer shipped with, and puffed about 10 puffs so far. Apple tastes a little stronger now and some decent vaper. Was gonna ask how many puffs thats good for but I see you already answered that anyhow :0
Thanks guys, i appreciate all the advice.
Before I forget, back to the xpower 900c. Whether I get good vapor or not, or good taste from the eliquid I am stuck with for now, the one thing that's for sure is the TH is pretty nice. Very comparable to my analogs so that's a great start :)
 

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No way. I squirt (not count drops) 1/2 of a cap. I slide the carto in. Pull it out, wipe it off. DONE. No way it takes me more than 5 seconds.

There is ONLY one drawback of doing this, you lose a teeny amount of liquid on the sides. Oh well. I sacrifice this for ease. Others can do the drip thing if they prefer, but I find it to be a waste of my time. I think it is complete silliness.

Why exactly is it silliness? You come across like you know everything (and that's not an insult, so please don't take it that way), so why are you resisting this much easier and much quicker method? Why would it be a waste of time to quickly drip 16 drops straight into the filler? Why squirt juice into a condom first and then put it into the carto? Why not just put the liquid into the carto first, instead of wasting time to put it into another container first?

If you widen the hole in your dropper bottle, it's really quick to drop 16 drops into the filler. Just try it. When I do this, I have absolutely nothing to wipe off or clean. Nothing.
 
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