My FIRST VAPE!!!

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Well there was my first problem, I thought it was $8 for ONE cartomizer lol. What I get for not looking closer. So indeed, from a price standpoint it was pretty stupid for me to get an atomizer and 10 carts, as the one atomizer was $8 lol.
Live and learn, it'll be cartomizers from here on out. Am still not quite sure how a cartomizer and the empty carts I have are any different, but I guess I'll find out when I get cartomizers.
My empty cart I just filled took .8 mil of liquid (you said cartomizers hold 1mil, so not that much diff). As far as ease, the cart has the filler and filling seems like it'd be the same for filling a cartomizer? I just pop the cart into the atomizer and puff away?
Anyhow, I guess I'll see if its easier when I get around to ordering some carto's.
I did just try by the way dripping 2 drops of liquid right onto the atomizer, putting the blank cart with no filler that the atomizer shipped with, and puffed about 10 puffs so far. Apple tastes a little stronger now and some decent vaper. Was gonna ask how many puffs thats good for but I see you already answered that anyhow :0
Thanks guys, i appreciate all the advice.
Before I forget, back to the xpower 900c. Whether I get good vapor or not, or good taste from the eliquid I am stuck with for now, the one thing that's for sure is the TH is pretty nice. Very comparable to my analogs so that's a great start

Cartos will actually hold more than 1ml. Many hold 1.8mL to 2.5mL, depending on the type of carto. I was mainly talking about when you refill a carto, you'll have to add about 1ml, because the rest stays soaked into the filler and usually isn't enough to wet the built-in atomizer enough to vape it completely dry. If you vape until it's completely dry, the built-in atty will start burning the filler.

The main advantage to using a carto is that you won't have to mess around with the finicky separate atomizer anymore.

 

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No chance. Drip method is pure silliness. it saves maybe a drop of juice per carto. i have no interest in watching it drip 80 times to save a drop.

I didn't switch to the direct drip method to save a drop of juice. Well, I can see you're not listening. Whatever.... I guarantee you will end up switching, though. Probably in about two weeks from now.

 

[DocWyatt]

Why exactly is it silliness? You come across like you know everything (and that's not an insult, so please don't take it that way), so why are you resisting this much easier and much quicker method? Why would it be a waste of time to quickly drip 16 drops straight into the filler? Why squirt juice into a condom first and then put it into the carto? Why not just put the liquid into the carto first, instead of wasting time to put it into another container first?

If you widen the hole in your dropper bottle, it's really quick to drop 16 drops into the filler. Just try it. When I do this, I have absolutely nothing to wipe off or clean. Nothing.

I am .... about learning what i want to know, most others are not. Once I understand the logical answer, I will not change my views unless there is a logical reason to do so. Many people view this as "not flexible". others know it to be wise. Depends on how you view things. lol.

 

[tazmaan]

ok thanks for that, i'll order some carto's on the next order Guess i'll just have 8 blank carts layin around forever

 

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I'll have to admit that I was stuck on the condom method when I'd been vaping for about 3 weeks, same as you. It was not until I actually did the drip method that I realized I could save a ton of time and mess if I quit using the condom method. Just trying to help ya, but I can see you're still too new at this and not ready for help yet.

 

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I do not mind much that people if think I am a know it all. I do not take offense to it. I am .... about learning what i want to know, most others are not. once I understand the logical answer, I will not change my views unless there is a logical answer. Many people view this as "not flexible". others know it to be wise. Depends on how you view things. i don't let it bother me.

Well, I'm the same way, and that's why I've been spending all this time trying to help you save time and messes starting right now, instead of two weeks from now. But I give up. Let me know when you come to realize that I was right. Bookmark this thread if ya want to.

 

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One more thing: There are other advantages to the drip method, such as: the threaded end won't get all gummed up from juice dripping out of that end, the filler will soak up the juice better when dripping into it, compared to soaking it all at once, and cartos will end up lasting longer using the direct drip method, compared to the condom method. I've tested both ways in the last 5½ weeks, and like you, I'll usually go with the most logical method of doing things.

So, come on, give it a try. Sometime, when you're ready to condom-fill a carto, try dripping 16 to 18 drops into it instead and see if that isn't much quicker, easier, and a lot less messy.

 

[DocWyatt]

Well, I'm the same way, and that's why I've been spending all this time trying to help you save time and messes starting right now, instead of two weeks from now. But I give up. Let me know when you come to realize that I was right. Bookmark this thread if ya want to.

LMAO. Won't happen. I want quick, simple. I am not pulling caps off and fiddling just to puff. I have done it. I completely fail to see the point of it, unless on a VERY tight budget or on an island where you can't order more juice. Then I get it.

Also, I will do a time test for you one day. i think i can easily fill 15 cartomizers in a minute, perhaps more.

 

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Yup, I always go for fast and simple. I've been that way all my life. But, like you, sometimes it takes me a while to find the quickest and simplest ways to do things. So, you'll get there eventually. Being into this for only three weeks, you're still a newbie, believe it or not.

But there's no way you can COMPLETELY fill 15 condoms, then plunge 15 cartos into the 15 condoms, and then clean up all the mess within one minute. Absolutely no way. If there was a way, I wouldn't have spent the last hour or more trying to help you switch to a quicker method. Believe me. I always do everything the fastest way possible, as long as the results are the same.

And, speaking of results, the vaping results are much better when dripping into the filler than when soaking the filler quickly with a condom half full of liquid. Vaping is more airy, with much less clogging, and results in more vapor, more flavor, and better throat hits -- and no time needed to get out the excess juice that you'll usually have when using the condom method.

 

[DocWyatt]

As Socrates once said: "Show me the errors of my ways and i will always be indebted".

 

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What I got out of all this tonight is that you would rather have a mess to clean up and spend more time overall, rather than removing the mouth cap.

Now that's funny!

 

[DocWyatt]

LOL, Your preferred method is not worth the time or effort, in my view. To each their own. But I personally am not going to pop caps and drip just to fill a carto. Not happening.

Many prefer that method. i get it. Why? No idea other than possible waste.

 

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LOL, Your preferred method is not worth the time or effort, in my view. To each their own. But I personally am not going to pop caps and drip just to fill a carto. Not happening.

The part that you're still NOT understanding is that the time and effort doing it my way is MUCH LESS than the time and effort doing it your way. That's all I'm sayin'. But it's your choice to spend MORE time and MORE effort doing it your way. I'll respect that and give up (for the last time tonight).

 

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nevermind.......

 

[DocWyatt]

HA HA. No, not indebted as i have done both ways. Condom method is as a simple and fast as you can possibly make it. taking caps off and all that is nonsense. Slip a carto in, take it out, and wipe it off. How hard is that?????? LOL.

 

[DocWyatt]

Just admit i am right and go to bed....LOL. It is late, i am going to bed. But the condom method is about as simple as it can possibly be.....perhaps some waste.

 

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Taking off the little rubber mouth cap takes about a second and a second to put back on -- using a paper clip that's always on my desk and nightstand. It really is quicker than getting out a condom, pouring juice into the condom, putting the carto into the condom, pulling the carto out of the condom, cleaning the condom, putting the condom back into the cup where it belongs, cleaning the carto, washing your hands, wiping the excess juice out of your mouth, blowing the excess juice out of the condom, and drawing and drawing on the PV until you vape out the excess juice until there's enough air inside the carto that it will vape correctly.

And, yup, besides avoiding all of the above, there's no waste when you simply drip 16 to 18 drops directly into the filter.

Good night.

 

[th1986]

Congrats.

I too am a new vapor. I tried & failed early this year , with what i think was to weak of a device but since getting my Riva in the mail about 3 weeks ago i am very impressed. I figured it would just be something to "slow down on analogs" with but after 2 days of using it and still smoking 2-3 cigs a day i realized that regular cigs were not nearly as good as vaping and am now almost 3 weeks analog free.

 

[tazmaan]

very nice th! can I ask what juice ur using?
I like the blueberry but it's dekang and it's not quite strong enough flavorwise so far, and the HC apple puts out more vapor but also not real strong. the mixed tobacco in my prefilled hardly puts out any vapor at all and really doesnt taste like much either.
I havent picked up my analog since I started vaping about 14 hrs ago, so its a start. I just want to keep the urge down and probably need to get some more juices ordered here soon. No idea what nic level I need either, so fighting the urge to pick up the analog could be due to lots of things, hopefully lack of nicotine isn't one of them

 

[tazmaan]

Seeing if my no smoking signature shows up