My little experiement ... PLS help me ... the people with the old style GGTS pls look

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Tyke I was more than accurate to my post. I said that the total resistance of a cirquit is equal to the resistance of its weak point. You also said to your post that you change the spring and you saw a difference. I dont see where you disagree with me or where I was not totally accurate.

Of course we agree about cleaning. I am the first one that says all the time clean, clean, clean


As for the width of the materials that we use, we dont really care because all metals are very fat on the GG so width is not important to our conversation.
 
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Wow sensory over load... way above my pay grade... Tyke; so are you saying aluminum post is a better conductor than brass but since my #888 I just recieved it like 4 days ago ... Then everything is still cleaned and noloax'ed out; but just changing the post from aluminum to brass I get a major change in vapor production... Cappy also said there no change under load... Now, I'm totally lost... either way, I'll try the copper center post for giggles

Sorry Ripp, it's tricky to put fairly technical concepts into simple language, understanding some of them takes either a scientific or engineering education or a lot of practical experience.

If you just look at the electrical conductivity statistics then an Aluminium post should be a brilliant material to use, BUT when you understand that the surface of Aluminium oxidises as soon as it comes into contact with the air and that Aluminium Oxide is a really BAD conductor of electricity with a high resistance it stops being so appealing.
Copper or brass is a far better conductor in practice, copper is a bit too soft to use (unless it's quite thick) for switch and battery contacts which is why brass is better. Sterling Silver would be even better, but would cost a fair bit more :)

Imeo the problem I had with your post is you mentioned silver and titanium which are 2 extremes that wouldn't be used so you painted the wrong picture.

The reality is that a bit of careful materials choice for some components can have a noticable effect on the performance of vaping kit.
In the case of a GGTS short of you making sterling silver tubes and end caps those critical areas are the switch, atomiser connector threads, AVS connectors and the battery connector posts at both ends, 0.5-1.5 ohms less resistance spread across those parts is enough to make vaping even better.
 

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Tyke, we are at the same boat pal but you cant see it. I said that the total resistance of a cirquit is the same as its weakest point. I am sure you dont disagree with it. As for the metals I used to my example, I did it to saw you exactly what will happen if we use a bad and a good contuctor. I dont see why my example draw a wrong picture. You were the one that said that a new brass spring on your SB made your vape better. You say exactly the same as me. You replace a bad contuctor with a better one so the total resistance of your cirquit got better.

We also agree about cleaning. Thats why I repeat saying that clean is the best we can do for our GG. If we clean the contacts we will never have a contactive problem with aluminium or brass
 
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Hopefulll I'm struggling to understand Cappy's results, unfortunately I don't have the necessary GG parts to replicate and confirm them. To say they're counter-intuitive would be an understatement as if nothing else Ripp's real world experience mirrors the theoretical results so from a scientic standpoint they're questionable.

As to thinking too deeply about the problem, well that's a product of my degrees, professional qualifications and decades of engineering so I can't help it, I'm used to having to understand difficult problems and design appropriate solutions :)
 

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if you always meassure the same pin then it has to show you ALMOST the same ohms Rip. That happens because you put wires of the metter in different places of the pin, maybe you touch pin with your nands, maybe the humidity of your room changed, the point of the pin you touch is more dirty, etc
 
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well, I guess my little experiment didnt pan out ... But, I'm really happy with the brass center battery post or whatever you wanna call it ... I'm happy with it and I'm sticking with it ... Hey, Imeo can you make the center atty/carto pin in brass as well ??? Can you make them that way or even a 901 brass AVS connector. Kinda like the 510 connector but for the 901 ...
 

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So keep em clean and they should both vape the same.
The problem with that Hope is the connector I had use on my #888 was clean as hell and was used for no more than a couple of days from the shelves of VaporKings... And it vaped just like the old aluminum center pins I have in my other collector tank... I just wasnt satisfied with it ... What I'm saying it cant get any cleaner than right off the shelves. And it vaped like that from day one...

But as soon as I replaced it with the brass center pin, it just vapes soo much better ... And the vapor on my AVS ( with the brass center pin) is very comparable with the older GGTS with the AFSv2 ... If you guys dont believe me and I guess; I'll have to make a video and show you guys the difference ...
 

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well, I guess my little experiment didnt pan out ... But, I'm really happy with the brass center battery post or whatever you wanna call it ... I'm happy with it and I'm sticking with it ... Hey, Imeo can you make the center atty/carto pin in brass as well ??? Can you make them that way or even a 901 brass AVS connector. Kinda like the 510 connector but for the 901 ...

All internal parts from now on will be nickel-plated Rip. I will try to keep the same price for GG as I always do.
 

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All internal parts from now on will be nickel-plated Rip. I will try to keep the same price for GG as I always do.

how will nickle plated work Imeo wouldnt the nickel plate ware off or chip when you constantly screw the atty connector on the AVS ???

But whatever you come out with can you make it soo I can just buy those updated pieces and not a whole GGTS and AVS... Thanx
 

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900 mah battery in my box mod is good at 3.7 volts for about 15-20 minutes then it drops. So need to quantify time from charger vs battery capacity. And yes the brass holds the connection better. I've done plenty of meter tests under load and a 900 mah battery starts to drop voltage after 15-20 mins of heavy vaping. 3600 mah lasts about an hour and it even drops.
 
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