N.E.T.'s and Coils
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For PG/VG based extractions, high levels of filtration help but only to an extent. They're still pretty gunky when compared to synthetics. Even when filtered at 1 micron, I re-wick/dry burn after every tankful (3-4ml). I've experimented with many methods in an attempt to achieve better performance but so far none have panned out.
PGA (ethanol), based extractions are cleaner. In addition to filtration, you can precipitate the oil, wax and resin out of an ethanol extraction (freezing process), making the cleanest best performing NETs I've encountered so far. I vape flavored NET (caramel, vanilla, crème, nut and or other flavorings added), and re-wick/dry burn every 12-16mls. The coils don't appear much worse than if vaping a straight synthetic like Ahlusion's Caramel Wild Wood. Performance and flavor are why ethanol is my current solvent of choice when it comes to tobacco extraction. It's pricy and requires additions steps/procedures but for me it's well worth the cost and effort.
PGA (ethanol), based extractions are cleaner. In addition to filtration, you can precipitate the oil, wax and resin out of an ethanol extraction (freezing process), making the cleanest best performing NETs I've encountered so far. I vape flavored NET (caramel, vanilla, crème, nut and or other flavorings added), and re-wick/dry burn every 12-16mls. The coils don't appear much worse than if vaping a straight synthetic like Ahlusion's Caramel Wild Wood. Performance and flavor are why ethanol is my current solvent of choice when it comes to tobacco extraction. It's pricy and requires additions steps/procedures but for me it's well worth the cost and effort.
Filter/ filter / filter. Problem is that the more you "clean" the extract the less flavor it yields. At some point you reach a balance. Time spent vaping vs time spent cleaning the coil.
Eventually I Would Like To Try The Ethanol Extraction Is there any way to do it without using heat like a stove or slow cooker ?
Yes, you can conduct an ethanol extraction at room temperature it just won't produce the full range of flavor that a heated extraction does (in my opinion), but still tastes exceptional. The flavor it extracts is "brighter" than a PG based extraction. It's also much easier to filter, just avoid nitrocellulose based filter material due to compatibility issues. There are additional steps involved once the extraction process is finished but they really aren't too daunting.
The flavor of a N.E.T. Is worth the extra build up on the coils just wish it was a little cleaner with out using PGA but I can make shure to filter it very good.
I use a small crock pot on the low to warm setting for my heat assisted PGA extracting ( I prefer 140F)
The only Problem Im Having Is The Coil Build Up. Trying to find a way to reduce the build up alot
Coffee filters are rated around 25-35 microns, they will catch and retain particles 25-35 microns in diameter and larger. Anything smaller than that stays in the extract no matter how many times you filter it. For a PG based extract you really should consider better filtering. A higher level of filtration will help keep your coils cleaner for longer.
I use plain printer paper to filter. Have no idea what the pore size is but it is well below that of coffee filters and just as easy to get.
Even some of the N.E.T.'s Ive bought from vape sites gum up the coils very bad. They where non PGA tho. Wonder if PGA would be different
I would like the same flavor profile that PG/VG Gives tho.
I would like the same flavor profile that PG/VG Gives tho.
Have you considered tackling the coil gunking issue from the coil rather than from the juice..... A proper build with the right wick and airflow, will also help reduce gunk build-up?
Since I dont use PG and only have experience with VG and PGA for extracting, I found PGA the better for extracting than VG. PGA doesnt extract the sugars as quickly as VG. I even went as far as taking equal amounts of VG and PGA, adding white cane sugar to each sample and tried to dissolve the sugar into the liquids. VG has a better capacity to make the sugar dissolve as compared to the PGA.. PGA dissolved about 10% of the sugar as compared to well over 60% for the VG. Quite possible that PGA allows for a cleaner extract due to the lack of sugars removed from tobaccos treated with sugars...
I found out for me when wrapping coils I space them and that helps with the build up on the coil.
Ha, I remember when we were testing PGA, PG and VG for sugar solubility... Good times!
And PGA (ethanol), does indeed produce a much cleaner NET.
I used a small solar kiln. Which is a box, black paper, and plastic wrap.
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