Has anyone considered using zigzag paper for filtering? I wonder what size the pores are.
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N.E.T.'s and Coils
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No idea what pore size might be but probably not much better than coffee filters. All they need to do is keep dry tobacco in and according to this paper being porous is a plus.
I can't get them where I now live but remembering from my RYO days I would say that they would tear to easily.
I just did a 50/50 Heat extraction for 10 plus hours on a habano cigar and all I can taste is a hay taste and its not that dark is there a reason why the other flavors are not coming through do I have to wait longer ?
Cigars take months to develope.... the "hay" taste is the chlorophyll ... Ive done a couple of cigar extracts and they didnt "mature" for 4-6 months. If you are looking for faster results, Pipe blends work better.
Thank you, I've left it longer in the crock pot and the flavors are getting alot better just took a longer time than usual I usually let them sit in the jar after for a while to. Just need to learn to be patient lol
Actually the molecule often associated with "hay" is gamma-Valerolactone. I don't know why chlorophyll gets mentioned, it's supposed to be tasteless.
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chlorophyll is definitely not tasteless, i know because i drink wheat grass and spirulina which are something like 70%+ chlorophyl. i guess that would depend on how much chlorophyll is in tobacco to know whether you'd taste it or not. which would depend on how well it was cured as curing reduces chlorophyll.
i guess what most refer to "chlorophyll" is a plant like taste (kinda of like the smell of a fresh cut lawn - hay-like).
i guess what most refer to "chlorophyll" is a plant like taste (kinda of like the smell of a fresh cut lawn - hay-like).
Just because wheat grass and spirulina are high in chlorophyll doesn't mean that it's chlorophyll that is giving them that taste.
For example, the molecule that gives grapefruit it's characteristic flavor is nootkatone. It is found to only make up around 0.3 percent of the oil from grapefruit peel (probably much higher than what you end up with in the juice). That means that 99.7% is made up of other stuff but it isn't necessarily what is giving grapefruit that taste.
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lol we can probably go at it all day, but trust me, chlorophyll is not tasteless. it is green! its what makes all plants, grass, including tobacco plants, green. when you cut your lawn, what you smell is the chlorophyll. ever nibbled on a blade of grass? that's chlorophyll. that is why many green veggies like spiniach, kale, etc. taste similar, they all contain chlorophyll. it's mild, but when it's concentrated (like wheat grass juice) it's pretty strong flavor.
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I'm sure we can but, I'm going to trust someone who has isolated that molecule and took a taste before someone who whippped up a smoothie with a plant, that has hundreds of compounds, and want's to point at chlorophyll because the plant is green.
ETA: Both types of chlorophyll are nonpolar, which means that PG and VG are not good solvents for either. That means that, despite tobacco being rich in them, neither is really good at extracting them. Gama valerolactone on the other hand is very polar and easly dissolves in both PG and VG and is said to be grassy. Seems to me that it is the most likely candidate.
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i just ordered a new mod/tank, plan to try using Stainless Steel coils. i think SS should be a lot better, and last longer than the traditional kanthol which tend to become magnets for gunk. my cotton wick seems to be fine, it's just the coil that "holds" the gunk.. just have to source some stainless steel 430 wire.
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