Nanoprotech waterproofing spray

[madstabber]

I was just looking into this spray that is used to waterproof electronics and it seems like it would be perfect for our mods. It says you can spray motherboards, battery terminals, internal electronics on many devices and it will help conductivity and keep moisture out. Well this seems perfect to keep ejuice and any other liquid that may get into our mods and prevent them from working. Surely someone has tried this stuff or something similar. Why aren’t they applying this stuff to our mods in the factory? This seems especially appropriate for squonkers. It says it can also restore electronics that have gotten wet and quit working. If you have used this stuff or something similar, hows it working out for you. If I get no replies I may have to get this stuff and be the guinea pig.

Consumers - Nanoprotech

 

[bombastinator]

It’s silicone paint. It works. So does spray laquer, though less well. There are several competing products. It’s big in custom computers with water coolers. Some pcbs come with it on. It costs a lot of money to apply though which makes many companies not want to use it. I find it not worth taking my mod apart to get at the pcb.

 

[Opinionated]

interesting..

 

[ShamrockPat]

Some boards already have a conformal coating applied to certain areas

 

[DaveP]

Tech Rep for 36 years. In the 70s our PC boards weren't usually coated and were easy to repair for things like driver failures and the chips were in sockets. If the customer was down, I'd rob from an old board to get the equipment running. Chip technology came with epoxy coating on boards later on. IC's that were subject to frequent failure were in sockets. These days so much circuitry is LSI that the equipment to repair makes it too complex for field repair.

The boards I've seen in my mods are so tightly packed that I'd rather replace the board than try to troubleshoot and repair!

 

[zoiDman]

That stuff is kinda Pricey.

https://www.amazon.com/Nanoprotech-...F8&qid=1547129703&sr=8-1&keywords=nanoprotech

But people seem to like it.

 

[AttyPops]

There's also heat issues. I didn't read the link/specs, but part of the board design is heat dissipation. So spraying anything extra on it could cause components to heat more, and thus fail more quickly. You'd want to design it for that in mind to begin with.

It's amazing if you take a IR image of electronics how much heat gets dissipated. Remember that all circuits have resistance, and that the resistance is directly related to heat produced. That's why it's handy to think of resistance as "electrical friction" and why our coils heat up.

 

[tailland]

Coat / Paint the mod PCB

 

[AttyPops]

That stuff would be great in salt-water corrosive environments though!

 

[zoiDman]

There's also heat issues. I didn't read the link/specs, but part of the board design is heat dissipation. So spraying anything extra on it could cause components to heat more, and thus fail more quickly. You'd want to design it for that in mind to begin with.

It's amazing if you take a IR image of electronics how much heat gets dissipated. Remember that all circuits have resistance, and that the resistance is directly related to heat produced. That's why it's handy to think of resistance as "electrical friction" and why our coils heat up.

And that might be the Trade Off that someone needs to make. To get One Thing, you need to Give Up something else.

For a Regular Mod, used in Regular situations, it might not be worth it. Because how much e-Liquid or Water is a Regular Mod exposed to?

But for a Squonk Mod? Well... One Good Leak could Kill it. So maybe it would be a Good Call?

 

[englishmick]

Might be good on battery contacts. Maybe 510 sockets.

 

[bombastinator]

There's also heat issues. I didn't read the link/specs, but part of the board design is heat dissipation. So spraying anything extra on it could cause components to heat more, and thus fail more quickly. You'd want to design it for that in mind to begin with.

It's amazing if you take a IR image of electronics how much heat gets dissipated. Remember that all circuits have resistance, and that the resistance is directly related to heat produced. That's why it's handy to think of resistance as "electrical friction" and why our coils heat up.

Which is why they use silicone. Silica has great heat conduction.

 

[Eskie]

Sounded interesting up until the claim it would repair boards already damaged by liquid. That would be quite a trick for a spray on anything to repair components.

More and more boards these days so seem to come from the manufacturer coated and sealed. I'm not sure this would be better although the issue would of course be uncoated boards.

Then there are things like liquid getting into buttons (maybe this could help) the 510 connectors (I still don't understand why you can't put a flexible rubber /whatever sealed to the pin and the negative screw part thingy, it wouldn't interfere with a floating pins movement), or use rubber gaskets to seal component sections off from exposure. I guess that sorta describes an Aegis type of build but it could be done without the size factor.

Does anyone remember a regulated mod that came out a few years ago, I want to say it was from Geekvape but I'm not positive, where they showed you could rinse it out in the sink without damaging the electronics?

 

[AttyPops]

Which is why they use silicone. Silica has great heat conduction.

Yeah, possible it even helps distribute heat. I'm just saying check it out first. Including IR.

 

[charlie1465]

This is interesting but I for one would like to understand more about how it does what it claims to do...i'll keep and eye on this.

 

[ScottP]

You would think people would be spraying it on their cell phones circuit board. How many phones do you think are ruined from water every year?

 

[GreySG]

I wonder what a mod built to mil-spec would cost? I'm afraid I've embraced the build it cheap, buy it cheap school of thought. I've taken to buying two identical mods at a time so that if/when something happens I just use the backup.

 

[sonicbomb]

People have been treating their phones with this Nanostuff for a couple of years

 

[bombastinator]

I wonder what a mod built to mil-spec would cost? I'm afraid I've embraced the build it cheap, buy it cheap school of thought. I've taken to buying two identical mods at a time so that if/when something happens I just use the backup.

The origional ageis is milspec. The legend is almost milspec. It failed the test because the battery door button can be broken if it is dropped just right.

 

[GreySG]

Humm, mil-spec covers a bit more than meeting a drop test procedure pulled from an enormous spec. Not that I think the Aegis isn't a good mod but I was thinking about the quality of the electronics (parts grade) and shock/vibe/thermal testing.