Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[johni]

All I will say is if Ahlusion's non aros are synthetic I have to eat my words that I have not found a synthetic tobacco (other than a few RY4s) that I like. I am addicted to the Wild Wood line.

That's all here..

I agree. I wasn't a big fan of any of the non aros I've tried but they are easily the best synthetics IME.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Yeah, I feel scammed. All the stuff that seemed so unbelievably delicious now turns out to be yucky because they don't call it NET. Mmm hmm.

Also, if it NOT a NET, shouldn't it be removed from the NET List?? Especially the A List?

 

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[Dusty_D]

Say what you want, but if it was suppose to be a NET and its not.. What do you call it then?

If I sold you a tank, say, nautilus, and left you with the impression it was authentic, but its not, what would you think? What would you think of me?

Again, this thread is irritating..

Midnite, Ahlusion has a long time standing of being an A-List vendor. Please do not lower their standard by calling them scammers regardless of what is being talked about at this time.

With regards to the thread being irritating, and seeing as how you posted something similar a couple days ago, I'd recommend un-subscribing from it for a little while and enjoying what you've learned here.

We'll still be around when you choose to re-join us.

 

[Dusty_D]

Also, if it NOT a NET, shouldn't it be removed from the NET List?? Especially the A List?

There are no Aromatics listed on their site anymore that I can see anymore. As such, they should be removed from the A List. Thoughts from the rest of the NET crew?

 

[Midniteoyl]

Midnite, Ahlusion has a long time standing of being an A-List vendor. Please do not lower their standard by calling them scammers regardless of what is being talked about at this time.

With regards to the thread being irritating, and seeing as how you posted something similar a couple days ago, I'd recommend un-subscribing from it for a little while and enjoying what you've learned here.

We'll still be around when you choose to re-join us.

Never said that they scammed, only that its leaving me feel like I have to wonder. They should be clear and concise about what they are doing, and what things have changed. That is all.

Being on the 'List' doesnt mean they are there correctly, BTW.

But ya, I get your hint, Dusty, we all know the actual bias and 'good 'ol' boy'ism in this thread. There's a reason why more people aren't in here. Papa can come in here and demand that we stop talking about stuff that is important to use, and you agrre. Papa can pretty much say he's for the FDA stepping in and no one questions that. I can make a suggestion regarding your most favorite person of all time, Clay, and you delete it. No name calling, no accusations, just a thought and a feeling, and BOOM, the hammer comes down..

Ya, I get it... Have fun in YOUR thread.

 

[MikeNice81]

There are no Aromatics listed on their site anymore that I can see anymore. As such, they should be removed from the A List. Thoughts from the rest of the NET crew?

Well if it is all synthetic, then they don't meet the requirements. Seems simple to me.

 

[Dusty_D]

Never said that they scammed, only that its leaving me feel like I have to wonder. They should be clear and concise about what they are doing, and what things have changed. That is all.

Being on the 'List' doesnt mean they are there correctly, BTW.

But ya, I get your hint, Dusty, we all know the actual bias and 'good 'ol' boy'ism in this thread. There's a reason why more people aren't in here. Papa can come in here and demand that we stop talking about stuff that is important to use, and you agrre. Papa can pretty much say he's for the FDA stepping in and no one questions that. I can make a suggestion regarding your most favorite person of all time, Clay, and you delete it. No name calling, no accusations, just a thought and a feeling, and BOOM, the hammer comes down..

Ya, I get it... Have fun in YOUR thread.

Lol.. you tickle me.

Clay, I've never bought from. He bought a pipe off me, and sent me juices in exchange. Only transaction..

Ahlusion, never bought from. Tried Devil Dog and a couple of their juices through a juice stash one of the Netters sent me when I switched to NETs. Refused to use a mule to have their stuff shipped to me and recently acquired a couple more juices through a trade with Maz. That's what kinda started this whole thing rolling actually.

What I do have is respect for the folks here and what they accomplish on this thread. What I would rather not see on this thread is vendor bashing and political drama.

If that makes me biased and a Fanboi in your eyes, then that kinda proves the point I was trying to make. You need to step away and re-evaluate why you are here, and what you're hoping to achieve.

p.s - you forgot that my favourite NET vendor is HHV, not one of the most loved on here.

p.p.s - I agreed with your comment regarding taking them off the list, since they no longer qualify.

 

[MikeNice81]

Never said that they scammed, only that its leaving me feel like I have to wonder. They should be clear and concise about what they are doing, and what things have changed. That is all.

Being on the 'List' doesnt mean they are there correctly, BTW.

But ya, I get your hint, Dusty, we all know the actual bias and 'good 'ol' boy'ism in this thread. There's a reason why more people aren't in here. Papa can come in here and demand that we stop talking about stuff that is important to use, and you agrre. Papa can pretty much say he's for the FDA stepping in and no one questions that. I can make a suggestion regarding your most favorite person of all time, Clay, and you delete it. No name calling, no accusations, just a thought and a feeling, and BOOM, the hammer comes down..

Ya, I get it... Have fun in YOUR thread.

All threads have annoying aspects. Sometimes you just have to skirt around that and take the good stuff. I enjoy reading your stuff.

 

[Jerms]

There are no Aromatics listed on their site anymore that I can see anymore. As such, they should be removed from the A List. Thoughts from the rest of the NET crew?

I think we should wait a little bit to see if any clarity surfaces. It may be semantics going on, the 'flavoring' may still be derived from tobacco, which we would call NET even if the Ahl representative someone here spoke to doesn't. I don't see a hurry, after all there's still a vendor on the list that hasn't even been around for about a year lol.

Some details may surface, but knowing how close Wlad keeps his cards to his chest it may always be up in the air like with BWB. My vote would be to give it a few weeks before making changes to the list.

 

[Jerms]

Saying this 'thread is annoying' is very similar to saying 'you people are annoying'. Maybe true to the person, but not a nice thing to say. Meh, I've been called a lot worse.

 

[Midniteoyl]

How about 'some' people.. make this thread irritating? Didnt saying annoying

 

[Jerms]

How about 'some' people.. make this thread irritating? Didnt saying annoying

Oops, my bad.

Never correct me again though, it's irritating.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Yessir!

LMAO!

......

 

[RPadTV]

I think we should wait a little bit to see if any clarity surfaces. It may be semantics going on, the 'flavoring' may still be derived from tobacco, which we would call NET even if the Ahl representative someone here spoke to doesn't. I don't see a hurry, after all there's still a vendor on the list that hasn't even been around for about a year lol.

Some details may surface, but knowing how close Wlad keeps his cards to his chest it may always be up in the air like with BWB. My vote would be to give it a few weeks before making changes to the list.

I agree, though I question whether we'd get details. The wording seems pretty deliberate. Again, I suspect it has everything to do about compliance and legality, rather than trying to confuse customers. It's smart on Ahlusion's part. When the FDA measures pass (still a long ways off), I suspect at least half the e-liquid companies in America to close shop and I suspect Ahlusion will still be around. Who knows though....

 

[MikeNice81]

I think we should wait a little bit to see if any clarity surfaces. It may be semantics going on, the 'flavoring' may still be derived from tobacco, which we would call NET even if the Ahl representative someone here spoke to doesn't. I don't see a hurry, after all there's still a vendor on the list that hasn't even been around for about a year lol.

Some details may surface, but knowing how close Wlad keeps his cards to his chest it may always be up in the air like with BWB. My vote would be to give it a few weeks before making changes to the list.

Personally I question if BWB should be there. I also think any defunct companies should be taken off.

 

[NotSoMini]

Also, anyone else find NETCom's Black Cavendish to be amazing in a dripper?

My only gripe with the PV clone is that it wants to make little droplets at the side where the lower airholes are: Like it wants to leak, but isn't.

Going to have to block those off when I rewick it and see what happens. I don't mind using the other AFCs if these little ones at the bottom want to look like they want to leak whenever I drip through the tip.

I too have been dripping Black Cavendish - good stuff. Today I had to do quite a bit of driving so I loaded up an Aspire Nautilus Mini with a BVC and filled it up with Black Cavendish. Not bad at all in the tank. I think this liquid does well with whatever one wants to use.

 

[Chinook]

Yeah, try dialing it back to 20% or even 15%. I know Johni's 2.5 Micron Kuba Deluxe can go 4ml with ease and I believe it is mixed at 20%. My 20% ratio 100% PG test juice ran 4ml with very little coloring of the wick and if it gunked any I didn't notice.

I'll try that in the next round. I need to start brewing my next batch.

 

[y cherry y]

How about 'some' people.. make this thread irritating? Didnt saying annoying

Thanks, I try to do my part.

 

[y cherry y]

I think we should wait a little bit to see if any clarity surfaces. It may be semantics going on, the 'flavoring' may still be derived from tobacco, which we would call NET even if the Ahl representative someone here spoke to doesn't. I don't see a hurry, after all there's still a vendor on the list that hasn't even been around for about a year lol.

Some details may surface, but knowing how close Wlad keeps his cards to his chest it may always be up in the air like with BWB. My vote would be to give it a few weeks before making changes to the list.

I'll ask, but I don't imagine I'll get a really solid answer. My take is pretty much what RPad said. I think they ARE extracted tobaccos, and I think if Wlad sells his extracts to any other juice company (which he does), then they're "commercial flavorings." But, whatever.

I don't really care about the list, and I know one guy who REALLY doesn't care about being on a list of any sort on ECF. Guess who.