Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[AnthonyB]

This continues to be a real head scratcher…

Anthony, where did you get the notion that you're SUPPOSED to dilute the Walker Texas Ranger sludge? He explicitly states otherwise on his order form…saying that diluting the liquid weakens the flavor. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kBCidjqNpM_rLRJKLKMOjLcJEAFAId35PmYTHRJQBys/viewform

I don't agree or recommend going high VG and heavy on the extract, but it's obvious he feels strongly about it. Nowhere does he use the words concentrates or extracts. Additionally, it would be a funky business model to tell customers they have to buy higher nic and dilute it down to their preferred levels.

He can be seen vaping his liquids in a Genesis atomizer in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA0kZSjVaeQ
which leads me to believe that perhaps he developed these for a particular style of hardware. I haven't used a Genny in ages so I have no idea if heavier liquids perform better on these set ups. I'd imagine the coils still gunk faster than you can spell M_I_S_S_I_S_S_I_P_P_I.

Hey dust, I'm very late here in responding because I am only now catching up to my own post.

I've got to run to the office but to be concise - I spoke to ken and learnt specifically that he is taking the extract and putting the required amount of nicotine.

Most of kens buyer based is a little less savvy than the sheer proponents and gurus of this thread so they don't know the process of maceration and mixing characteristics.

I recommend anyone who has Walkers liquids run a small test batch of mixing them at about 20-40% and letting them steep for a week or two.

Edit: there might be some minor dilution of the extract from the solvent that the nicotine is added with. The way Ken phrases it 'I use just the extract and include nicotine'

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[Big Juicy]

Ok, just got off the phone for a long while with Clay from NETCOM. His report is that he is straightened out on all counts that have been speculated on (health, et al) and that had to come first, the business is straightened out (website, shop space, packaging materials, staff) and prepared for a full reopening, most, if not all current menu juices are in stock, and a number of new juices are in beta testing including the aforementioned Dark Caramel Tobacco, his take on an RY4 (coming from a man who once ranked QuickNicJuice as the #1 retail NET RY4 on market) which utilizes a unique bourbon vanilla, a Columbian Coffee/Burley juice, and a number of other all natural extractions including Apple and Maple (pinch me) . The website will remain down until every single outstanding order has been filled, which he hopes to be by the end of the day Wednesday, but anticipates to definitely be no later than Friday of this week. Once all outstanding orders have been filled the site will reopen and NETCOM will offer a 5-day sale of 15% off all orders, automatically deducted at checkout.

On a personal level, he sounded good, positive, excited to be pulling out of the business tailspin, and most of all very thankful for his customers...many of which were new clients he has already contacted and turned from critics to loyal customers moving forward. He is committed to delivering on every single order he took and is almost caught up, and he is extremely appreciative for the clients he has. He is committed to and about a month into the process of returning messages to those who reached out to him, in order from oldest to newest message he received. He sounded fired up and optimistic about the future, and with the stock and staff in place to deliver he is super excited about the grand re-opening this week.

Personally, I am pulling for him. He is good people, period...and his juice is outstanding.

 

[rdsok]

I'm so excited to hear this news....

First and foremost that the health issues are now less of a worry... This was my paramount concern for him with the business ( and personal success it could have ) being second...

I had stocked heavily on several of my favorites from him already when I was getting samples for my own friends to try out.... In fact, I still have enough of them that I was only a little concerned but not worried yet. The Air Cured Burley is almost exhausted and I'm down to about 7-8ml of BJ's Blackberry Burley which I've been only vaping on occasion to help it last.

The new offerings are also sounding interesting... I think the RY4 is on top of the list but I'd love to find a coffee-bacco vape that I enjoy also

Ok, just got off the phone for a long while with Clay from NETCOM. His report is that he is straightened out on all counts that have been speculated on (health, et al) and that had to come first, the business is straightened out (website, shop space, packaging materials, staff) and prepared for a full reopening, most, if not all current menu juices are in stock, and a number of new juices are in beta testing including the aforementioned Dark Caramel Tobacco, his take on an RY4 (coming from a man who once ranked QuickNicJuice as the #1 retail NET RY4 on market) which utilizes a unique bourbon vanilla, a Columbian Coffee/Burley juice, and a number of other all natural extractions including Apple and Maple (pinch me) . The website will remain down until every single outstanding order has been filled, which he hopes to be by the end of the day Wednesday, but anticipates to definitely be no later than Friday of this week. Once all outstanding orders have been filled the site will reopen and NETCOM will offer a 5-day sale of 15% off all orders, automatically deducted at checkout.

On a personal level, he sounded good, positive, excited to be pulling out of the business tailspin, and most of all very thankful for his customers...many of which were new clients he has already contacted and turned from critics to loyal customers moving forward. He is committed to delivering on every single order he took and is almost caught up, and he is extremely appreciative for the clients he has. He is committed to and about a month into the process of returning messages to those who reached out to him, in order from oldest to newest message he received. He sounded fired up and optimistic about the future, and with the stock and staff in place to deliver he is super excited about the grand re-opening this week.

Personally, I am pulling for him. He is good people, period...and his juice is outstanding.

 

[NotSoMini]

If you don't mind me asking, when was your order date?

May 6 and July 3.

 

[Evil Speakers]

Thanks for the update, BJ. Very happy to hear the good news.

 

[boomerdude]

You left out Dustmite, Juicy. He makes some very fine extracts and is my sole supplier of Esoterica Penzance.

Boomer, Bill Herbst, FearTX, Johnni, Scarf-Ace...I might be forgetting a few...

(note...this is in no way an ego or whatever list...IN ANY WAY. It is just perspective to the question of "tastebuds" to give perspective on what I have tried and thus how I taste and rate juices)

 

[Big Juicy]

You left out Dustmite, Juicy. He makes some very fine extracts and is my sole supplier of Esoterica Penzance.

HOLY CRAP. Sorry Dustmight. How could I forget you...I am vaping your ROyal Cajun as I type this!

 

[NotSoMini]

BJ, thanks for sharing your conversation with Clay. I have a lot of trust and confidence in him.

 

[y cherry y]

Ok, just got off the phone for a long while with Clay from NETCOM. His report is that he is straightened out on all counts that have been speculated on (health, et al) and that had to come first, the business is straightened out (website, shop space, packaging materials, staff) and prepared for a full reopening, most, if not all current menu juices are in stock, and a number of new juices are in beta testing including the aforementioned Dark Caramel Tobacco, his take on an RY4 (coming from a man who once ranked QuickNicJuice as the #1 retail NET RY4 on market) which utilizes a unique bourbon vanilla, a Columbian Coffee/Burley juice, and a number of other all natural extractions including Apple and Maple (pinch me) . The website will remain down until every single outstanding order has been filled, which he hopes to be by the end of the day Wednesday, but anticipates to definitely be no later than Friday of this week. Once all outstanding orders have been filled the site will reopen and NETCOM will offer a 5-day sale of 15% off all orders, automatically deducted at checkout.

On a personal level, he sounded good, positive, excited to be pulling out of the business tailspin, and most of all very thankful for his customers...many of which were new clients he has already contacted and turned from critics to loyal customers moving forward. He is committed to delivering on every single order he took and is almost caught up, and he is extremely appreciative for the clients he has. He is committed to and about a month into the process of returning messages to those who reached out to him, in order from oldest to newest message he received. He sounded fired up and optimistic about the future, and with the stock and staff in place to deliver he is super excited about the grand re-opening this week.

Personally, I am pulling for him. He is good people, period...and his juice is outstanding.

That's good to hear. His juices aren't my faves by and large, but I liked a few very much, and I'm very interested in the caramel and RY4. I hope he does well.

 

[rabernet]

Hi everyone - mostly lurking here, and I'm not very eloquent or descriptive, but was able to get a few samples of RBFS, and have tried one of them so far, Poet & Scholar. Wow - definitely will be ordering more of this. When I loaded it up, I didn't change out the Rayon and the previous flavor was a fruit mix from Ahlusion, but the fruit flavor stayed and stayed and stayed, but changed and was lighter, so I went to the website to read the description and noted that a reviewer described a fruit element to it too.

While I was enjoying vaping this, my boyfriend came into the room and went "whew, smells like pee in here!" LOL Thankfully, it doesn't taste like pee. I only got a 10 ml sample and I'm trying to decide if I'll just vape it all up or move on to try one of the other three RBFS samples I got. Decisions, decisions!

 

[Dusty_D]

Ok, just got off the phone for a long while with Clay from NETCOM. His report is that he is straightened out on all counts that have been speculated on (health, et al) and that had to come first, the business is straightened out (website, shop space, packaging materials, staff) and prepared for a full reopening, most, if not all current menu juices are in stock, and a number of new juices are in beta testing including the aforementioned Dark Caramel Tobacco, his take on an RY4 (coming from a man who once ranked QuickNicJuice as the #1 retail NET RY4 on market) which utilizes a unique bourbon vanilla, a Columbian Coffee/Burley juice, and a number of other all natural extractions including Apple and Maple (pinch me) . The website will remain down until every single outstanding order has been filled, which he hopes to be by the end of the day Wednesday, but anticipates to definitely be no later than Friday of this week. Once all outstanding orders have been filled the site will reopen and NETCOM will offer a 5-day sale of 15% off all orders, automatically deducted at checkout.

On a personal level, he sounded good, positive, excited to be pulling out of the business tailspin, and most of all very thankful for his customers...many of which were new clients he has already contacted and turned from critics to loyal customers moving forward. He is committed to delivering on every single order he took and is almost caught up, and he is extremely appreciative for the clients he has. He is committed to and about a month into the process of returning messages to those who reached out to him, in order from oldest to newest message he received. He sounded fired up and optimistic about the future, and with the stock and staff in place to deliver he is super excited about the grand re-opening this week.

Personally, I am pulling for him. He is good people, period...and his juice is outstanding.

Thank you for this post! It's good to hear that Clay is doing well and ready to make a comeback.

 

[Jerms]

Hi everyone - mostly lurking here, and I'm not very eloquent or descriptive, but was able to get a few samples of RBFS, and have tried one of them so far, Poet & Scholar. Wow - definitely will be ordering more of this. When I loaded it up, I didn't change out the Rayon and the previous flavor was a fruit mix from Ahlusion, but the fruit flavor stayed and stayed and stayed, but changed and was lighter, so I went to the website to read the description and noted that a reviewer described a fruit element to it too.

While I was enjoying vaping this, my boyfriend came into the room and went "whew, smells like pee in here!" LOL Thankfully, it doesn't taste like pee. I only got a 10 ml sample and I'm trying to decide if I'll just vape it all up or move on to try one of the other three RBFS samples I got. Decisions, decisions!

Second hand vapor from honey juices smell like pee... one of the oddest facts of vaping lol.

I'm wondering how Dagwood will play for you. It's made from an ACID Blondie cigar; one of the most unique flavors in NETland. The cigar is infused with like 150 different flavorings and botanicals. I love it as well as many others. Some people really dislike Blondie extractions too, which is totally understandable.

 

[rabernet]

Second hand vapor from honey juices smell like pee... one of the oddest facts of vaping lol.

I'm wondering how Dagwood will play for you. It's made from an ACID Blondie cigar; one of the most unique flavors in NETland. The cigar is infused with like 150 different flavorings and botanicals. I love it as well as many others. Some people really dislike Blondie extractions too, which is totally understandable.

Well, I guess that one will have to be next up! I'll report back my feelings on it.

 

[Big Juicy]

Second hand vapor from honey juices smell like pee... one of the oddest facts of vaping lol.

I'm wondering how Dagwood will play for you. It's made from an ACID Blondie cigar; one of the most unique flavors in NETland. The cigar is infused with like 150 different flavorings and botanicals. I love it as well as many others. Some people really dislike Blondie extractions too, which is totally understandable.

 

[Jerms]

HAHAHA. That picture had me laughing so hard I made a little honey vape in my shorts.

 

[Vicman]

Howdy everyone. I spent the last couple days trying a few more GeJ's. Yesterday I vaped Vita Bella pretty much all day.That is odd cause I usually switch it up with a different flavor every couple hours. Not yesterday, had my morning menthol with my coffee and stayed with VB the rest of the day. Have to say, this is one special liquid. Can't really describe the taste except it is the right amount of sweet to spice for me. I do know when it first arrived, there was a stronger vanilla taste to it; it's mellow now but can tell it's in there somewhere. Good stuff and glad I got a 30 mil of this based on the good reviews I seen it get in here.

Today, tried something different and been vaping Fire Cured Tobacco from GeJ. All I taste in this one is smoke and maybe pepper? not sure. Kinda reminds me of what a pipe would taste like if I ever was to smoke one. Not sure if that made any sense but think it reminds me of hanging with my grandpa as a child (he was a pipe smoker and his house and car always smelled real good). Not sure if I like it for its flavor or the nostalgia aspects of it; either way, glad I tried it.

 

[NotSoMini]

Howdy everyone. I spent the last couple days trying a few more GeJ's. Yesterday I vaped Vita Bella pretty much all day.That is odd cause I usually switch it up with a different flavor every couple hours. Not yesterday, had my morning menthol with my coffee and stayed with VB the rest of the day. Have to say, this is one special liquid. Can't really describe the taste except it is the right amount of sweet to spice for me. I do know when it first arrived, there was a stronger vanilla taste to it; it's mellow now but can tell it's in there somewhere. Good stuff and glad I got a 30 mil of this based on the good reviews I seen it get in here.

Today, tried something different and been vaping Fire Cured Tobacco from GeJ. All I taste in this one is smoke and maybe pepper? not sure. Kinda reminds me of what a pipe would taste like if I ever was to smoke one. Not sure if that made any sense but think it reminds me of hanging with my grandpa as a child (he was a pipe smoker and his house and car always smelled real good). Not sure if I like it for its flavor or the nostalgia aspects of it; either way, glad I tried it.

How long did you steep Vita Bella?

 

[Jerms]

Howdy everyone. I spent the last couple days trying a few more GeJ's. Yesterday I vaped Vita Bella pretty much all day.That is odd cause I usually switch it up with a different flavor every couple hours. Not yesterday, had my morning menthol with my coffee and stayed with VB the rest of the day. Have to say, this is one special liquid. Can't really describe the taste except it is the right amount of sweet to spice for me. I do know when it first arrived, there was a stronger vanilla taste to it; it's mellow now but can tell it's in there somewhere. Good stuff and glad I got a 30 mil of this based on the good reviews I seen it get in here.

Today, tried something different and been vaping Fire Cured Tobacco from GeJ. All I taste in this one is smoke and maybe pepper? not sure. Kinda reminds me of what a pipe would taste like if I ever was to smoke one. Not sure if that made any sense but think it reminds me of hanging with my grandpa as a child (he was a pipe smoker and his house and car always smelled real good). Not sure if I like it for its flavor or the nostalgia aspects of it; either way, glad I tried it.

Vita certainly is a wonderful NET.

That smokiness from the Fire Cured burley you'll also get in blends that contain Latakia. It creates a level of authentic smoking experience like no other.

 

[Vicman]

How long did you steep Vita Bella?

About 3 weeks. Tried it right out of the mail and like it but put it aside for a little as I was diggin Patriot a little more out of the mail.

 

[Vicman]

Vita certainly is a wonderful NET.

That smokiness from the Fire Cured burley you'll also get in blends that contain Latakia. It creates a level of authentic smoking experience like no other.

Thanks for the info. I'll be looking for more with Latakia in it then. I kinda like that smokiness. It does not remind me of smoke from an analog though, just good memories from my childhood.