Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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I got a freebie bottle of Clockwerks Custard from VW. Very tasty, as was Americano by MOV. A double .5 ohm coil on cotton in a Pirate Flag RDA does the trick.
I still think Vita Bella is an exceptional liquid. That said I have a perfectly aged 8 month bottle that I can only take for a tank or so every few months. Vanilla just doesnt sit well with me in about 90% of juices. Vita Bella is superior to most, but still
Seems as though my taste buds tire faster these days. I used to crave the straight tobaccos and now I like a bit of variety with some slightly sweet flavorings added to the tobacco. Funny thing is they have to be switched around or I get the "dead taste bud effect" sooner than I used to..... 
I'm new to NETs. I've been vaping a couple years or so. I got so terribly bored with eliquid that I went unflavored 100% vg for a long time other than an occasional bottle of Bobbas Bounty. I've got several cigar and pipe tobaccos I ordered from P&C cold macerating. A few of those I rushed through the crock pot method. I sampled them a little at full strength and they were surprisingly good. I'm letting them age a bit though.
Do all NETs have that grassy flavor on top? Will that go away with ageing or in increase?
I ordered both NET offerings from Steamy Vapor and they have that strong grassy flavor too. The flavor intensity from those liquids was really strong while the RBFS was much milder.
I also ordered some RBFS from Vaping Watch. The Porch Rocker didn't have that grassy flavor but the St James Parish did. Is it the type of tobacco (I think it's called Perique) that contributes that flavor? It's something I'm getting used to but it was off putting at first.
As for Vaping Watch he was great to deal with. There was some problem with my two orders due to the credit card processor. "Watch" doubled my RBFS order for free and also threw in a free bottle of Monkey Spunk and Clockwerks. Plus it all got here quickly.
Some of you were asking about custards. I have vaped several of those.Clockwerks from VW is different but impressive. It's a touch "drier" and a tad less sweet than some others. "Watch" calls it a "proper Bristich custard". I know nothing of of that but the juice is really good. You might try it if you're ordering some RBFS and want to try a custard.
Do all NETs have that grassy flavor on top? Will that go away with ageing or in increase?
I ordered both NET offerings from Steamy Vapor and they have that strong grassy flavor too. The flavor intensity from those liquids was really strong while the RBFS was much milder.
I also ordered some RBFS from Vaping Watch. The Porch Rocker didn't have that grassy flavor but the St James Parish did. Is it the type of tobacco (I think it's called Perique) that contributes that flavor? It's something I'm getting used to but it was off putting at first.
As for Vaping Watch he was great to deal with. There was some problem with my two orders due to the credit card processor. "Watch" doubled my RBFS order for free and also threw in a free bottle of Monkey Spunk and Clockwerks. Plus it all got here quickly.
Some of you were asking about custards. I have vaped several of those.Clockwerks from VW is different but impressive. It's a touch "drier" and a tad less sweet than some others. "Watch" calls it a "proper Bristich custard". I know nothing of of that but the juice is really good. You might try it if you're ordering some RBFS and want to try a custard.
I also like Vita Bella in moderation and can drip it for maybe a day before succumbing to the sweet. I'm feeling the same about vanilla, just too sweet. I can't take any RY4 now. Too much There there.
OT: Blends by Bryce has an excellent line of custards and pudding and...plus a very loyal following and fantastic customer service.
If your macerating your own concentrate from tobacco, vaping it strait is going to taste grassy and possibly sour. Diluting it to at least 15% flavoring will cut down the juice into a better vape. That said, all of them are different and a little experimenting is in order to get them suitable to your taste.
Balancing three flavors this afternoon:
MOV's Sunday Morning: I'd forgotten how good this is. It's been several months since I first tried it. One of the few coffee blends I like.
GoodeJuice Patriot: Oh, you know.
and
MVJ w/Peter Stokkebye Black Currant Cavendish Pipe Tobacco, MVJ with Peter Stokkebye, MyVapeJuice, LLC
The black currant was a little heavy when new. Now it's mellowed out and is very smooth with the tobaccos and fruit playing well with each other.
MOV's Sunday Morning: I'd forgotten how good this is. It's been several months since I first tried it. One of the few coffee blends I like.
GoodeJuice Patriot: Oh, you know.
and
MVJ w/Peter Stokkebye Black Currant Cavendish Pipe Tobacco, MVJ with Peter Stokkebye, MyVapeJuice, LLC
The black currant was a little heavy when new. Now it's mellowed out and is very smooth with the tobaccos and fruit playing well with each other.
I love Sunday Morning... Unfortunately MOV doesn't go lower than 9mg nic. I can't do higher than 6mg at this point 
Sunday Morning remains good. Coffes gets a little clingy to my pallet after a while, but i keep some of that at hand. I am not suree I like it as much as old school JG Blend from Ahlusion though, that stuff was damn good.
Freaking Patriot. The psycho hosebeast ex gf who was scorching in the sack and crazier than a poo house rat. Just yesterday a craving took hold of me and I was dismayed to find i was all out. My last bottle lasted almost a year, but was vaped in entirely in 4 hot and heavy week long affairs. I reached for some old Acadian Gold instead...and it completely gunked an aspire head in half a tank...I kid you not
Freaking Patriot. The psycho hosebeast ex gf who was scorching in the sack and crazier than a poo house rat. Just yesterday a craving took hold of me and I was dismayed to find i was all out. My last bottle lasted almost a year, but was vaped in entirely in 4 hot and heavy week long affairs. I reached for some old Acadian Gold instead...and it completely gunked an aspire head in half a tank...I kid you not
Coffees cling like (inappropriate comparison) to mine too. I was down to my last full bottle of Patriot so I ordered 3 more that should be here today. I can rest easy for a bit now.
Seems as though my taste buds tire faster these days. I used to crave the straight tobaccos and now I like a bit of variety with some slightly sweet flavorings added to the tobacco. Funny thing is they have to be switched around or I get the "dead taste bud effect" sooner than I used to.....
I think, at least going by many posts here on ECF, that happens to a lot of us. I tried re-living the good 'ol days ( 2012 ) and bought a few juices I loved before NET's came into my vaping life. Dragon's Leaf, Vapedudes Black Honey and Timeless RY4. Seems the good 'ol days are gone 'cause they don't taste like anything I remember.
My top five personal favorite NET's however, have not changed. I have been vaping them for over 18 months and still love 'em all.
I have some very good RY4 in the juice locker. MOV FVF, some original Janty, NETCOM, even a custom NET Burley Kake RY4 from beloved BH, and a the last 10 ml of a well cared for and rationed BWB RY4...but other than the BWB they have all turned on me and I don;t enjoy ANy of them anymore. I don't know why.
Thanks for going ahead with the results. Looks like I missed some drama. I was waiting on my first order from NET.com and didn't get to vote but that's ok. Doesn't look like anything I would have voted for would have made a difference.
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I am SHOCKED at the results. Patriot...LEGEND...and O#1. Good grief. None of the three would be in my top-5. But hey, that's just me.
A few things I noted:
Best Overall - The top 3 are embarrassing. Seriously.
NOTE: I have been around the block with most vendors and more DIY guys than I can count...and until the gunk comes in I still say W2V Louisville is the top production NET on the market.
Best Sweeter - Shocking yet I am not shocked at all that VB finally went down. With CWW proven to be a synthetic the field was wide open I suppose. TPR Candied Cav is a fantastic juice...though due to NANNERS I couldnt finish a tank...but I respect it. It says something 'bout you evil nanner lovers that this got more votes than the more broad based Burley & Candy. I am not sure WHAT it says but it aint good. I must have got a bum bottle of RBFS PDST beacause I get no flavor from it, and in fact only a barely passable amount of flavor from Fab & Burl.
Best Drier - another head scratcher. For what it is I enjoy Southern Gent very much, but to me this is a very excellent entry-level juice for someone wading into English Blends. That alone is OUTSTANDING, but BEST drier??? No comment on Huntsman. I am really surprised some of the Latakia blends didn't make this list. NETCOM SCT is a favorite of a lot of people I know outside ECF as well. More later. The NS Dark might have been my most disappointing juice of the year. I had super high hopes and this one left me flat. Maybe I should try it again.
Single Varietal - RBFS SJP is really a fine juice. I said it long ago, it is a perique done by a true and knowledgeable perique lover and it shows. That said it is just baby steps better than NETCOM's offering. Those babysteps are GIANT LEAPS on some miniscule level, but still. Surprised the NETCOm didnt make it if perique lovers were voting. The NETCOM SCT is really encouraging to see. This is a juice old fart lifelong smoker guys I know use as a ADV after many failed attempts at other NET's. It is pretty damn good all by itself.
Best Fruit - REALLY? I just can't get behind Pendragon. I tried REAL hard but it turned on me. IT IS NO UNCLE BJ...which finally gets the praise it deserves! Legend...gross. Wasn't there a debate at one time if this should even be considered a fruit bacco? NETCOM Black Cherry is lacking, and from what I hear nowhere near the same stratosphere as some of NETCOM's new fruitbaccos, let alone their Mango Vanilla. I can only assume many voters had not sampled the new offerings late. A special note that while I am not surprised that TPR Honey Fig missed the list...it does not READ like something you may like and I guess many haven't tried...that juice is a real accomplishment and one of a kind.
Best Flavored - Were the ORIGINAL Ahlusion NET's not eligible? MAPLE BURLEY anyone? Otherwise I would honestly only try 2, maybe 3 juices on this entire list and a few I think are just not good, period. It seems the voters didn;t really know what to do with this category. Clearly, and I cannot believe I haven't already, I need to order Count Caramel stat. I got the whole line when RBFS launched but haven;t tried the second round of juices yet.
Best Cigar - Interesting. I said it when it first came out, 3-Crowns was worthy of being the NETCOM "flagship" cigar, and was the best production cigar I had other than Managua to date. Since then I have had a number of DIY stogies that take the cake, but as for production juices 3-Crowns holds it own and I still vape it. Managua's disrespect is upsetting...but maybe that makes me a traditionalist. I am guessing many voters aren;t really "cigar guys" because the Dagwood and P&S choices are not for the cigar enthusiasts. Don't get me wrong, I think both are really well done, P&S in particular is a real accomplishment and a totally unique juice, but there are so many great cigars out there...REAL cigars. This list is just weird to me, but to each his own and the vote shows that. Curious not to see any MVJ selections on there given all they offer. I still havent finished any of the original batch of juices I got from them, they were just all too lacking in power, but I heard they upped the % of extract so I would have expected to see them get a vote or two. BTW Gypsy Blonde is NOT a cigar. It is NETCOM's take on a 1980's version Gitanes, I believe
Best Pipe - OK, don;t take this the wrong way, but this vote tells me all I need to know about the voters. The first two for my money aren;t even pipe blends...and Dat Caramel? REALLY??? OK, maybe I need to try it if it gets this kind of love but I still dont think it belongs in this category. I think Admiral's and Southern Gent are out of their league here, just my opinion. I get the ap[peal of O#1...there is a sweetness to that vape that is all its own. Porch Rocker is a respectable choice. So many snibs for those other far infeerior, not even traditional pipe juices. W2V Louisville & London, A+ Bluegrass Burley, NETCOM Black Cavendish, QNJ Grandpa's Nightcap, even EV King's Crown. I mean how does not a single TRUE English Blend make this list?
Best Cigarette - Big Spirit and Organic Spirit are aces. I am vaping some OS right now. With all the supposed Perique lovers around here I am surprised Speaking Spirit got no love...that is a really nice vape. To leave Paris off this list is criminal, period. I get it, I cant vape it either...but that third hit of a fresh coil with Paris is HEAVEN. Thus is should be no surprise that NETCOm Poilu was snubbed here. Poilu is a real gift for Paris lovers, about 75% of the flavor impact of PAris with half the gunk. A really good take on Gauloises. I can only think many haven;t tried this, because not making this list is criminal.
Best English/Latakia - Apache reigns supreme. That stuff really is good. That said, I would dare anyone to take the Pepsi challenge with NETCOM Balkan and tell the difference...it can be done, but not by all. And yet Balkan gets less than half the votes. LOL. Bombay does, which believe it or not I havent had. I still vape Apache and Balkan though. Apache holds it own over time, and here even in the newer vapers eyes, and that is why it is a hall of fame NET...like the Ty Cobb of NET. The all time latakia king is Devil Dog! of course. Now that I see A+ juices not on here across the boards I am guessing that though they were still in production part of the year they weren't eligible for this. I might have had NETCOM Smoked Latakia on here. That stuff is freaking precious.
Best NET RY4 - WOW! OurWhy4 finally unseated??? WWBHS? I havent tried this year's champion yet...and I may not. RY4's have turned on me for some reason, even the very best. Nice to see clay get noted here. That NETCOM whether by design or luck is like the perfect marriage of traditional and custom RY4 profiles. A solid B or B+ on the BIG list, I believe.
Best Synthetic - I admit it...I still vape more CWW than any other juice. That said, my last bottle even after a long steep was just missing something. Anyone else have a similar issue this year? There are a few juices that are MUST tries in the synthetic world for next year's ballot, take it from Uncle BJ. Good Life vapro - Deadly Sin is really something. Their Pop's Pipe - a artibacco fused with chai tea latte and vanilla bean is in the mail to me as we speak. Also Stout Vape Co. BROWN BEAR - Cavendish, Cigar, Graham cracker, and bakery. I have heard GREAT things from DIY NET guys. No joke.
Honorable Mentions - OK, I have heard this NETCOM grilled pineapple is quite something. Sit on old Uncle BJ's lap and tell him all about it.
Vendore Reporting - Like a Phoenix from the ashes, NETCOM goes from most bashed to far and away #1?!?! All the while turning out like 72 unreal interesting NET offerings. WOW.
Finally opened up NET's Speaking Spirit. Oh My this is good. It's seems that used as an additive to Big Spirit(?) complements both of those flavors.
I also am giving Goodejuice's Wild Turkey another go. Did not like it first time around but it's mellowed and is light and dry-ish.
Enjoying both tonight.
I also am giving Goodejuice's Wild Turkey another go. Did not like it first time around but it's mellowed and is light and dry-ish.
Enjoying both tonight.
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