I totally get the cheaper part. I just think of DIY-ing, especially NETs as something very scientific. I guess I don't trust myself enough and I simply don't have the time.
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I totally get the cheaper part. I just think of DIY-ing, especially NETs as something very scientific. I guess I don't trust myself enough and I simply don't have the time.
Buddy, I wanted to ask and try to figure out if I'm missing on something. I didn't ask you, so don't feel obliged to read my question or respond to it. Capisci?
Extracting tobacco does not have to be complicated. Heck, put some tobacco in a glass jar, cover with pg (or mix of pg/vg), put it on a shelf or windowsill and forget about it for a few weeks. Well, I guess the filtering would be the most complicated part to filter well enough to get fairly clean extract. I just use a French Press coffee maker and 3 or 5 micron felt filters (I cut them from felt filter sheets). But I DO understand not wanting the bother and see nothing wrong with that. The other reason I am glad I know I can do it is with the coming regs. They won't stop me vaping!
Cool! So, then you just add nic to desired strength? There is no nic that is released from the tobacco during the extraction?
Actually... if you don't want others to respond to your posts for good or bad... don't post... but if you do post, don't expect others to always agree with and just accept that for what it is.
As for my previous examples being comparable... DIY in any form in any subject IS certainly comparable to extracting our own juices and a viable explanation as anything. They all share the same underlying reasons... controlling the final product ( ie customization ), making the product for less, just for the craft itself and I'm sure many others that I didn't take the time to think of. Just because you don't get why someone does DIY ... doesn't make it unfathomable to others that do.
As for extracting e-juice from tobacco being scientific... it's no more scientific than making tea or coffee where we extract those flavors into water with the only difference being it's done with PG, VG or some alcohol base so it can take longer. Soak times and temps are the main differences along with what type of tobacco is being used.
Generally it is said that what is released is little to none since extracting nic is actually a much more complex process.
First and foremost, if you go back, you will see that my question was addressed specifically to jonny. Not you, not aces, not others.
If you will look.. this is an open forum... not just yours or just jonny's for that matter ( or mine or others )... Conversations ( ie PM's ) are for private chats.
Got it. You tell us that you have no interest. You're too busy. It's too complicated. Thanks for the input. Sincere apologies for replying to your posts on an ... ahem .. public forum....
Perhaps in the future, you could advise us all who is allowed to reply, and what responses you will tolerate. That'd really make things go more smoothly for you.
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I personally spend too much time on DIY, but that is because I have the time, and enjoy doing it. If I did not, I would do exactly as fogmust does. Why would I spend endless hours trying to save 20 bucks a month when I can make much more working?
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Why? You already answered that question... "and enjoy doing it."
That's the why for most of us, I think. I work full time and am the primary caregiver for twin 4 year olds. I'll put my lack of free time up against anyone's. I do this because it relaxes me, and I enjoy it.
Kiddos are in bed and I'm puffing away on 67's Jackknife and sipping a whiskey. That's decompression for me.
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That's the why for most of us, I think. I work full time and am the primary caregiver for twin 4 year olds. I'll put my lack of free time up against anyone's. I do this because it relaxes me, and I enjoy it.
Kiddos are in bed and I'm puffing away on 67's Jackknife and sipping a whiskey. That's decompression for me.
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I think you need much time. The problem for me was to find the right tobaccoad. I have made over 40 extractions without success and have wasted much time. Now its better, because i know what kinds of tobaccos are good for my taste. On the other side the time for the different extraction methods plays a role. For ethanol you need much time but for cold or hot pg its okay.
If it wasn't for the enjoyment factor, it probably wouldn't make much economic sense to spend much time on DIY - not for me at least. I spend hours experimenting, and if I were to charge myself a decent wage, the cost would be much higher than buying a ready made juice - from net.com or GooEjuice for example. That is what fogmust was referring to.
Heck, sometimes I think I am spending much more money on DIY than I was when I was smoking.
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Fogmust...am with you here...I got pulled up for discussing ordering extra extract (vendor clearly offered it!)...
Certain posters (poster) like to use the Internet to reaffirm their superior knowledge. Likely they are under appreciated in real life. Form of bullying.
Just ignore mate as you are doing - best policy.
Don't mind me. I'm unappreciated in real life. Internet pop psychology told me so. Now stop being butthurt over an exchange from months ago that everyone else had long forgotten.
Also, better to not toss out words like "bully" while in the process of launching personal attacks. Nobody else has gone personal here. Just you.
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Also, better to not toss out words like "bully" while in the process of launching personal attacks. Nobody else has gone personal here. Just you.
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