Behave....... hurt really...stop the schoolyard stuff please.
Ps no personal attack intended by the way. Just noticed you seem to like to make an issue when you think people are not as vape savvy as yourself.
Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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Behave....... hurt really...stop the schoolyard stuff please.
Ps no personal attack intended by the way. Just noticed you seem to like to make an issue when you think people are not as vape savvy as yourself.
Back to topic...
Been really getting into clays juices, my black note and HoL juices are taking a bit of a back seat.
Only downside as ever the coil gunking, but it's worth it.
Getting to grips with my rda's...freakshow and snapdragon clone. Surprised how many toots I get before top up and the lack of mess, just once in a while I overfill the freakshow mini.
Didn't order any juices with smoked latkia this time and miss it! Gypsy blondes definately on next order.
Mercenary still stands out, sadly only had a small sample, long gone.
VaPeOr is really nice. Full Zware another favourite.
Speaking Spirit touch mild, even with extra extract, that said in a dripper it's good enough for me. Weirdly I am finding it perhaps the quickest to require a dry burn and rewick.
The Ruins and 3 Crowns sit in the drawer, 6 weeks steep now, probably crack them open in a couple of weeks.
Been really getting into clays juices, my black note and HoL juices are taking a bit of a back seat.
Only downside as ever the coil gunking, but it's worth it.
Getting to grips with my rda's...freakshow and snapdragon clone. Surprised how many toots I get before top up and the lack of mess, just once in a while I overfill the freakshow mini.
Didn't order any juices with smoked latkia this time and miss it! Gypsy blondes definately on next order.
Mercenary still stands out, sadly only had a small sample, long gone.
VaPeOr is really nice. Full Zware another favourite.
Speaking Spirit touch mild, even with extra extract, that said in a dripper it's good enough for me. Weirdly I am finding it perhaps the quickest to require a dry burn and rewick.
The Ruins and 3 Crowns sit in the drawer, 6 weeks steep now, probably crack them open in a couple of weeks.
As already stated, not enough nic is extracted from the tobacco to count. To make the final eliquid, I use the extract as a flavoring. I usually use 15-20% of the final mix (other ingredients being pg, vg and nic).
You ditch the dime-store psychology, I'll ditch the sophomoric turns of phrase. Deal? Then nobody has to claim a false intellectual high ground.
You basically told someone to ignore me because I probably suck at life. Not sure there's any other way to read that but as a personal attack. But I digress.
How so? This had absolutely zero to do with "vape savvy." We had one poster going on about how he thought it was pointless to do your own extracts. I asked what his point was, and why it was a discussion. What does that have to do with vape savvy?
Feels like you're manufacturing a narrative here based on some sort of lingering hurt feelings over a post I made literally months ago.
Can we please stop the drama? Classy will come rain on our parade. I prefer to read about Natural tobaccos, not drama. JMHO, not pointing any fingers.
On another note and arguably net related...why is it thinner wire, smaller coil diameter and less spacing between wraps means quicker gunking. I have always read it is, and seem to be experiencing this right now...
Always questioned it as myth, thinking surely it all evens out in reaching a given resistance e.g more or less wraps.
I would just opt for 3mm + diameter, macro coils etc. but my kayfun lite and goblin mini seem to prefer and be manufactured for smaller diameter coil, and without my coil master (micro coils only) I am lost with wrapping a coil.
Always questioned it as myth, thinking surely it all evens out in reaching a given resistance e.g more or less wraps.
I would just opt for 3mm + diameter, macro coils etc. but my kayfun lite and goblin mini seem to prefer and be manufactured for smaller diameter coil, and without my coil master (micro coils only) I am lost with wrapping a coil.
You should have a large mandrel for the coil master.
after you wrap it tight, just spread it out while still on the mandrel. Sort of the reverse of how we pinch the coils to get them touching without coiling tools.
after you wrap it tight, just spread it out while still on the mandrel. Sort of the reverse of how we pinch the coils to get them touching without coiling tools.
I moved on months ago. Would be great if you joined me. Now, on to better things.
My take on it is that tighter tolerances (smaller, unspaced coils) tend to hold high heat and liquid together in close proximity, in effect "cooking" it, in addition to providing a lot of nooks and crannies for build-up to start. What you build on has a lot to do with it too, I think. Tightly enclosed build decks with narrow chimneys and limited airflow, such as on a Kayfun, basically act like little ovens once the airflow stops. Compare that to your garden variety RDA, like the Velocity clone in my hand at the moment, where I can look down into it and see the coils, so it's not dependent on vacuum (ie: drawing on it) for airflow. Just sitting there, it's being cooled by air currents in the room, which isn't possible with coils that are buried inside tanks like a Kayfun.
So while I think some of it has to do with the gunk potential of a given juice, it also has to do with the style of atty, mainly how efficiently it dissipates heat, and coil build. Heat, heat, heat. Have you ever seen a dual coil build that's been firing unevenly? The hot coil is the one getting all the build up.
At this point I have really limited experience with NETs, but I'm finding that they seem to perform better in RDAs than tanks, and for some odd illogical reason, with Clapton builds. The "Black Cavendish" stuff I had (and loved) pretty much wrecked havoc on the 24 g 2.5 id unspaced dual build in my Aromamizer, which has a REALLY tight, enclosed build deck. 5 mls of the Cav and it was shot, requiring a toothbrush scrub to remove tarry residue and full rebuild. For some reason the dual 2.5id spaced Claptons (0.3 ohms) in my Griffin fared better, and my Velocity RDA (build identical to the Griffin except 3mil id) just needed a quick dry burn/rewick. Strange, I'd have thought Clapton wire would gunk quicker, but it's the opposite (thicker wire, spaced = better heat dissipation??).
So, try dual builds on an RDA or Griffin-esque tank, and experiment with Clapton wire.
I think foggy is guilty ! Let us hang him up on a large tobacco tree. Later we could cut him in little peaces. Anthony, we need your experience !
After this we could use his intestines for a really good juice. Its called:
Bloody Foggy
p.s. This is not a joke, be careful !
After this we could use his intestines for a really good juice. Its called:
Bloody Foggy
p.s. This is not a joke, be careful !
That is a good idea sir...will give it a try...and report back.
Nice one. Will try dual coil and Clapton. Difficult to get more than 2 * 2.5 mm diamter coils in the freakshow mini, especially if the wraps are spaced...but t's possible!
The Aromamiser is the same. 2.5 id, 24 gauge is the biggest coil I've been able to squeeze into its insanely tight chamber. Claptons might work in vertical set up, but I don't like verts. For tanks, the Griffin is a winner. I only do velocity style decks these days.
Not to change the subject, But one day this week I have 7 tobaccos that I spent all of 35 minutes putting in clean 8 oz. jars extracting. I now need filtering through a coffee filter a few times. For ME, gunk makes a much tastier vape than over filtering.
Now, if say three out of seven extractions [never happened] fail, I have spent LESS than purchasing one 10ml. bottle of "store bought nets!" Yes I do occasionally buy nets, but enjoy mine much more [biased.] I know one out of the group will not be what I expected, but up to now what have a lost? A couple dollars on tobacco and VG and 35 minutes for MONTHs of pure enjoyment! 
Now, if say three out of seven extractions [never happened] fail, I have spent LESS than purchasing one 10ml. bottle of "store bought nets!" Yes I do occasionally buy nets, but enjoy mine much more [biased.
] I know one out of the group will not be what I expected, but up to now what have a lost? A couple dollars on tobacco and VG and 35 minutes for MONTHs of pure enjoyment!
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Not to change the subject, But one day this week I have 7 tobaccos that I spent all of 35 minutes putting in clean 8 oz. jars extracting. I now need filtering through a coffee filter a few times. For ME, gunk makes a much tastier vape than over filtering.
Now, if say three out of seven extractions [never happened] fail, I have spent LESS than purchasing one 10ml. bottle of "store bought nets!" Yes I do occasionally buy nets, but enjoy mine much more [biased.
For sure gunky juices are the tastiest, except when the gunk makes the vape taste like a stale ashtray, and hence frequent rebuilds...such is the life of a net vapers...
I have always suspected the real net making skill lies in filtering to keep as much good flavour as possible whilst limiting gunk as much as possible...the balance between the two is key for me at least...
You almost soLd me on making my own juices...but what about the time to collect, clean and sterilise the jars...the time to filter after extraction...and then bottle...doesn't mean it's not worthwhile but has to be more than 35 minutes all considered...?
The Aromamiser is the same. 2.5 id, 24 gauge is the biggest coil I've been able to squeeze into its insanely tight chamber. Claptons might work in vertical set up, but I don't like verts. For tanks, the Griffin is a winner. I only do velocity style decks these days.
The griffin now on my must have list thanks...huge build deck very nice indeed.
Do you have a dishwasher? That's how home canners do it.
A few pint size canning jars from a local store. Since you aren't canning, you can reuse the lids many times. Just run it all through the dishwasher (no soap).
And this is why we share our DIY NET experience. You can't really describe taste as we're all different but comparisons and techniques are helpful to the less experienced.Not to change the subject, But one day this week I have 7 tobaccos that I spent all of 35 minutes putting in clean 8 oz. jars extracting. I now need filtering through a coffee filter a few times. For ME, gunk makes a much tastier vape than over filtering.
Now, if say three out of seven extractions [never happened] fail, I have spent LESS than purchasing one 10ml. bottle of "store bought nets!" Yes I do occasionally buy nets, but enjoy mine much more [biased.
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