Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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That has nothing to do with what you asked/posted... you asked about USA shops that had zero nic juices .... I gave you two examples of such shops and if you want more, you need to do the searching instead of asking others to do your work for you...

As for wanting to find out what secrets the vendors have in their processes... as MSToms59 just said and you've been told over and over... don't expect them to give out those. Asking the same question again and again... only gets you the same responses.


No, i want to try the new nictoine free tobacco from the 22 century company and not a net. The cigarettes with this tobacco are called "Magic 0" but i dont know where to buy and if they have also rolling tobacco or leafs.

I have not asked for other methods like for example Clays. I am only thinking about other methods and for example i will search and read google patents. There are other ways to extract tobaccos, for example CO2 extraction and i am looking for a new one to me which i can do at home. CO2 for example is too dangerous for me.
 
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Took advantage of the net.com sale...mucho goodies heading my way in next few weeks...raven, ruins, mercenary, eclipse, balkan, sun cured turkish, fired cured burley & dark fired 2. looking forward to trying some of the burley's mixed with the turkish - camel without virginia! enough to keep me going for a good few months...time to really let a share of the cigar blends steep...
 
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Yes of course. But since a few weeks i am vaping my home made ones and its more funny to experiment with different tobaccos as to buy the ready juices or extracts.

I want to learn more about other extraction methods, not only cold and hot pg and ethanol. I dont think that net.com does the extractions like we do. Clay must have found a better method, but i think with a lot of chemical knowlege. My nets have a little bit more smokiness similar to a real cigarette than the nets from net.com but the flavours from net.com are more tasteful.

I have tried over 80 tobaccos and i know my favourites, so its not the choice of the right tobacco. I need more knowledge of better methods. Its a funny hobby but at this point it becomes a little bit difficult for me because i am not a chemical.

I will certainly give you credit for enthusiasm Jonny. that German ingenuity and precision is definitely coming out :)

Once you've invested all your money and time into finding the magic process to making the perfect NET then you can pass on the secrets to me, in the same way you are wanting to reveal NET.com's secrets :)
 
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Just for the record, I will be going overseas to Asia for 2 weeks on Sunday so I might be a bit scarce around here during that time.

I hope you all continue to contribute to this thread with reviews, techniques, tobaccos,
minor skirmishes and vendor sales during that time :)


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No, i want to try the new nictoine free tobacco from the 22 century company and not a net. The cigarettes with this tobacco are called "Magic 0" but i dont know where to buy and if they have also rolling tobacco or leafs.

I have not asked for other methods like for example Clays. I am only thinking about other methods and for example i will search and read google patents. There are other ways to extract tobaccos, for example CO2 extraction and i am looking for a new one to me which i can do at home. CO2 for example is too dangerous for me.

If I am not wrong, CO2 distillation is how Ahlusion make their NETs. It certainly makes for a distinctive juice with very potent flavor but I would imagine this method really requires a laboratory and someone with 'Heisenberg' qualifications.

Jonny, I am not sure why you want nicotine free tobacco. Maybe if the audience understood why you want nicotine free tobacco they can give you a better quality answer.

I am speculating that you want nicotine free tobacco so you can avoid the nicotine sickness that comes from both smoking and Vaping and have the best of both worlds smoking and Vaping. I've been there many times. Doing both will make you nicotine sick.

Nicotine free tobacco is still going to clog up your lungs and increase your risk of cancer. There are no health benefits to removing the nicotine from tobacco you intend to smoke. Nicotine, as you might know is the least dangerous chemical in cigarettes and is not carcinogenic.

So my advice is stop smoking entirely and if you really need an aid to get off cigarettes then try WTA (whole tobacco alkaloid) juice which is sold by Aromaejuice. That will help with the chemical withdrawal of some of the alkaloids in cigarettes that make you feel calm and happy when you are smoking.
 

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Thanks Anthony. I want to quit the nicotine because its bad for the heart.

Nets without nicotine are not very tastefull. I am missing something in the taste without it. I dont want a nicotine kick, i only want a very good taste.

I know that smoking is not good for the lungs too and about the danger of cancer but i am still curious how a cigarette without nicotine tastes.

I have done a little stupid experiment. I have poured a package of tobacco with water for a few hours and than i have discarded the water and have dried the tobacco. The taste was disgusting because all the flavours have gone with the nicotine in the water.

I am sooo curious how a tobacco without nicotine but with all his flavours will taste.
 
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I will certainly give you credit for enthusiasm Jonny. that German ingenuity and precision is definitely coming out :)

Yes you are right Anthony. A german is like a real goodness. He is perfect and everything he is doing should be perfect too !

Nooo. The real reason for my enthusiasm is that i am still not satisfied with nets.

I like them very much but very often i have the problem that all nets are toooooo sweet for my taste. In my opinion this is the most difference between a real cigarette and a net in taste. I dont want a sweet vape to my coffee. I have tried the bitter wizard and i have played around with only vg and only pg but i can not find a solution for the sweetness.
 
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I like them very much but very often i have the problem that all nets are toooooo sweet for my taste. In my opinion this is the most difference between a real cigarette and a net in taste. I dont want a sweet vape to my coffee. I have tried the bitter wizard and i have played around with only vg and only pg but i can not find a solution for the sweetness.

Best Medium Bodied E Cig Liquid, Smooth E Juice NET Flavors
 
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No, i want to try the new nictoine free tobacco from the 22 century company and not a net. The cigarettes with this tobacco are called "Magic 0" but i dont know where to buy and if they have also rolling tobacco or leafs.

Have you tried contacting 22nd Century? Their website states that Magic zerO was to have launched in Europe 2015.
 

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Hello NET thread. Been a long, long, long while since I posted on this thread. I was prominent here for a long time and about two years ago I quit the thread cold turkey due to another frequent visitor here that I had no use for (and doesn't seem to post here anymore). After sampling just about every NET vendor in those days I finally tired of all the sampling and settled on just three flavors I rotate. One is Dragon's Fire from HHV (NET) which makes up about 80% of my vape time. I also vape HHV's Caramel Apple Tobacco (non-NET) about 10% of my time and finally MOV's, Apache (NET) the remaining time. Love them all and glad I settled in. All that sampling took time away from the flavors I really enjoyed.

I was sorry to receive the news a couple months ago that Shatner lost his life due to injuries sustained in an vehicle wreck. Shatner was a frequent visitor to this thread back in those days. Very sad to hear this.

Anyhow, carry on and enjoy your ever-evolving NET journey!
 

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Hello NET thread. Been a long, long, long while since I posted on this thread. I was prominent here for a long time and about two years ago I quit the thread cold turkey due to another frequent visitor here that I had no use for (and doesn't seem to post here anymore). After sampling just about every NET vendor in those days I finally tired of all the sampling and settled on just three flavors I rotate. One is Dragon's Fire from HHV (NET) which makes up about 80% of my vape time. I also vape HHV's Caramel Apple Tobacco (non-NET) about 10% of my time and finally MOV's, Apache (NET) the remaining time. Love them all and glad I settled in. All that sampling took time away from the flavors I really enjoyed.

I was sorry to receive the news a couple months ago that Shatner lost his life due to injuries sustained in an vehicle wreck. Shatner was a frequent visitor to this thread back in those days. Very sad to hear this.

Anyhow, carry on and enjoy your ever-evolving NET journey!

Good to hear from you again Bronze. You can't go wrong with Apache. I found it to be one of those NET's that improves with a higher Nic ratio. Don't know why that is, probably my imagination but I still punch up the Nic when I order.
 
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Hello NET thread. Been a long, long, long while since I posted on this thread. I was prominent here for a long time and about two years ago I quit the thread cold turkey due to another frequent visitor here that I had no use for (and doesn't seem to post here anymore). After sampling just about every NET vendor in those days I finally tired of all the sampling and settled on just three flavors I rotate. One is Dragon's Fire from HHV (NET) which makes up about 80% of my vape time. I also vape HHV's Caramel Apple Tobacco (non-NET) about 10% of my time and finally MOV's, Apache (NET) the remaining time. Love them all and glad I settled in. All that sampling took time away from the flavors I really enjoyed.

I was sorry to receive the news a couple months ago that Shatner lost his life due to injuries sustained in an vehicle wreck. Shatner was a frequent visitor to this thread back in those days. Very sad to hear this.

Anyhow, carry on and enjoy your ever-evolving NET journey!
Hi Bronze! Welcome back! Not as busy around here as it used to be, but still chugging along. I don't vape NETs as much as I did back then, but still love to read what others are enjoying.

Yea, Shatner is truly missed. He was a great contributor and lots of fun. Don't be a stranger!
 

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Good to hear from you again Bronze. You can't go wrong with Apache. I found it to be one of those NET's that improves with a higher Nic ratio. Don't know why that is, probably my imagination but I still punch up the Nic when I order.
Hey Boomer! After vaping every imaginable NET, I discovered I enjoyed those with a dominant oriental note...at least in the straight up NETs. I like the spicy sweet characteristic which keeps it from becoming too dry. While there are several that fall in this category I had room for only one so settled on Apache. I also enjoyed W2V's London. Louisville was also very good and of course Vita Bella. I'd be happy with any of them. But I find I cannot vape any of these for long periods of time. They get too dry. But for those two hour stretches a time or two per week I absolutely love them.
 

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Hi Bronze! Welcome back! Not as busy around here as it used to be, but still chugging along. I don't vape NETs as much as I did back then, but still love to read what others are enjoying.

Yea, Shatner is truly missed. He was a great contributor and lots of fun. Don't be a stranger!
Yeah, Scarfy stopped in after a long hiatus to tell me about Shatner. Needless to say it was very sad to hear. His family must be devastated. Much too young. He was quite the talented glassmaker/artist.
 
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