Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[AnthonyB]

I've been vaping a few of my older NET.com juices in the last week.
Many of these juices are from batches I purchased 2 years ago. I could swear they get better and better with time.

I never really gave Choctaw Perique much of a chance when I first purchased it. I filled a tank when it was a young juice and which was probably in need of steeping. I wasn't compelled enough to pull it out again until now. Now it is amazing. The nuances and layers in the juice conveys flavors that make me think of mushroom and olive oil. The tobacco is resounding. I think this might be one of the best periques I've had not because it is powerfully accented with strong perique notes but because it is not overdone and doesn't punch you in the face like perique can sometimes do. I find the juice is more
balanced and smooth without sacrificing the layers of nuance and complexity that periques have. It is very vapable for long periods of time.

I am also finding the smoked burley single varietal a good cigarette like vape.

When I stop vaping NET.com liquids for a while
to work through a batch of liquids and then return to NET.com, I am amazed every single time at how good the juices are even.

NET.com is having a 20% sale right now. I'm tempted to pick up the 4 tea extractions but the postage to Australia is as much as the 4 bottles of 15ml juice I want!


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[AnthonyB]

I took advantage of the NET sales with the 20% discount. I've recently put in a substantial order with NET but given that Clay has a lot of new juices in his ever expanding line up it was irresistible to ignore with the discount. I am also mildly concerned with the first important date coming up in the FDA's prohibitive deeming regs on August 8. I know the date itself is not the big date which could destroy the entire vaping industry but I am concerned about the accessibility of tobacco based liquids from overseas sources.

In my order I've gotten three of the tea Vapes, the new English Blend, Vyno and some of the hybrids which sound amazing such as Cranapple, margarita, Nut Roll and Passion Pop.

I've come to trust Clays deft hand at crafting hybrid juices. The flavors he infuses into his NETs are of good quality and don't taste synthetic or artificial to me. I've recently tried one of the apple tobacco juices I had from a previous order and the Granny Smith Apple flavor infused into the tobacco tasted just like its namesake.

It seems Clay can't put a foot wrong and every new liquid he releases is a winner.


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[67Tele]

I only ordered one from Clay's sale: 30ml extract of The Raven. First of his extracts I've bought but, I'm sure it'll be very good.

 

[AnthonyB]

I only ordered one from Clay's sale: 30ml extract of The Raven. First of his extracts I've bought but, I'm sure it'll be very good.

I think The Raven might be one of his top billings at the moment. I ordered it as well following positive feedback. It is currently on steep and I haven't even sampled it as yet.

I think I might be due to try it.

One thing I like about NET.com liquids is durability of the flavors and longevity generally. I might have staved off the temptation to put in this last order if it weren't for the fact that the juices I got from NET.com 3 years ago, literally days after Clay started the business, still taste just as good as when they were perfectly steeped. I can still taste the Mango vanilla in Borocopes Mango Vanilla. The option Clay provides for dark bottles for the extra $1 make all the difference in the world to longevity.

 

[Smocian257]

I never really gave Choctaw Perique much of a chance when I first purchased it. I filled a tank when it was a young juice and which was probably in need of steeping. I wasn't compelled enough to pull it out again until now. Now it is amazing. The nuances and layers in the juice conveys flavors that make me think of mushroom and olive oil. The tobacco is resounding. I think this might be one of the best periques I've had not because it is powerfully accented with strong perique notes but because it is not overdone and doesn't punch you in the face like perique can sometimes do. I find the juice is more
balanced and smooth without sacrificing the layers of nuance and complexity that periques have. It is very vapable...

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I really do need to explore perique more deeply one of these days , got sidetracked by english blends and then fell back in love with cavendish and just haven't been back.

 

[checkum]

I really do need to explore perique more deeply one of these days , got sidetracked by english blends and then fell back in love with cavendish and just haven't been back.

Yep, it's hard for me to to set aside Perique and it's blends as well as those great English blends also

 

[clnire]

I love a good Perique!!! I think it's my favorite tobacco. Heck, I know more about tobaccos now then I ever did when I smoked cigarettes. Back then it was just light up and go (and kill). Now I actually enjoy a few.

 

[boomerdude]

I love a good Perique!!! I think it's my favorite tobacco. Heck, I know more about tobaccos now then I ever did when I smoked cigarettes. Back then it was just light up and go (and kill). Now I actually enjoy a few.

Get that American Spirit Black soakin' and you'll soon be smo..... errrr.. vapin' not that your not smokin' Cath.

 

[clnire]

@boomerdude , extracted and juice is steeping . Looking forward to it!

 

[Exchaner]

Get that American Spirit Black soakin' and you'll soon be smo..... errrr.. vapin' not that your not smokin' Cath.

Spirit Black is very good but it leaves an after taste of fermented tobacco - from the Virginia component I assume.

Blending Perique from P&C does not have that after taste. It is pure Louisiana Perish - one of the best IMO.

 

[Vicman]

Been vaping on Full Zware from NET.com and it reminds me of Bali Nights from EV. Well, almost. This one has a smokey element I did not get from Bali Nights. I like it. I should say FZ and BN were modeled after a Bali Shag RYO blend made up of Virginias and Burleys. Glad I ordered it as I was running low on BN and can't get it anymore.

Clay also sent me a beta sample of another red wine infused tobacco. It is a pipe blend this time named Veritas. Out of the mail, the wine is dominate. Gonna let it steep a week or so to see how it develops.

Others which came in on my 4th of July sale order were Yellow Jacket, III Castles, Smyrna, Viper, and a sample of Orange Blossom Honey. Those and a 60 mil bottle of Vyno, can't get enough.

 

[67Tele]

and a sample of Orange Blossom Honey

This one was a surprise for me and I really enjoyed it. I don't remember too much Orange but, it's quite nice.
Along with my Raven extract Clay sent a sample of Mercenary extract. From the description it sounds similar to Raven. I'm going to mix up these two and will let you know how they are in a couple/three months...hehe.

 

[morningdew]

This one was a surprise for me and I really enjoyed it. I don't remember too much Orange but, it's quite nice.
Along with my Raven extract Clay sent a sample of Mercenary extract. From the description it sounds similar to Raven. I'm going to mix up these two and will let you know how they are in a couple/three months...hehe.

Well versed with mercenary here. Different to raven, i find it drier, woody. Both very, very good.

Yesteryear is also superb.

Cigar and smoked latakia lovers - try Eclipse.

Clay really is a credit to vaping, in all ways.

Two little mentioned gems from his line up - fire cured burley and dark fired 2.

Cigar, hybrids and single varieties for me, and speaking spirit. Pipes less so - can't get on with the treacle like black cavendish.

 

[luceblueboy]

A disabled veteran walked into my vape store they other day. He can't have any nicotine because of his injuries. He went to another store in the area and they still gave him nicotine.....

After talking with his wife while we were making him a fruit blend I found out he loved cigars/pipes before his accident. I blended up a medium bodied MVJ blend with a little Perique extract because that was exactly the type he said he loved.

His face instantly lit up. All the money in the world wouldn't be worth more than his face when he tried that NET.

 

[Boodaddy]

A disabled veteran walked into my vape store they other day. He can't have any nicotine because of his injuries. He went to another store in the area and they still gave him nicotine.....

After talking with his wife while we were making him a fruit blend I found out he loved cigars/pipes before his accident. I blended up a medium bodied MVJ blend with a little Perique extract because that was exactly the type he said he loved.

His face instantly lit up. All the money in the world wouldn't be worth more than his face when he tried that NET.

That's pretty awesome man

 

[checkum]

A disabled veteran walked into my vape store they other day. He can't have any nicotine because of his injuries. He went to another store in the area and they still gave him nicotine.....

After talking with his wife while we were making him a fruit blend I found out he loved cigars/pipes before his accident. I blended up a medium bodied MVJ blend with a little Perique extract because that was exactly the type he said he loved.

His face instantly lit up. All the money in the world wouldn't be worth more than his face when he tried that NET.

There was no nicotine from the tobacco leaves themselves that transferred to the extract you gave him?
I was under the impression, right or wrong, there is always some nicotine available during the extraction process that is naturally passed on.

 

[rdsok]

There was no nicotine from the tobacco leaves themselves that transferred to the extract you gave him?
I was under the impression, right or wrong, there is always some nicotine available during the extraction process that is naturally passed on.

It's an assumption we have made that there is some residual nicotine but that is just to recognize the possibility is there... not that there is any. I know of a set of tests on Ahlusion NET's that in some cases none was detected but now those are in question since Ahlusion has later implied they were not using actual NET's ( as we define here )... We do know that soaking tobacco isn't very effective method to the extract nicotine and at most only traces are likely. What is defined as a trace is unknown AFAIK

It is probably best just to say there was no added nic beyond what may have come from the extraction itself. We also know that other vegetables also contain nicotine in them... so no one eating veggies are going to be completely nic free.

 

[AnthonyB]

Been vaping on Full Zware from NET.com and it reminds me of Bali Nights from EV. Well, almost. This one has a smokey element I did not get from Bali Nights. I like it. I should say FZ and BN were modeled after a Bali Shag RYO blend made up of Virginias and Burleys. Glad I ordered it as I was running low on BN and can't get it anymore.

Clay also sent me a beta sample of another red wine infused tobacco. It is a pipe blend this time named Veritas. Out of the mail, the wine is dominate. Gonna let it steep a week or so to see how it develops.

Others which came in on my 4th of July sale order were Yellow Jacket, III Castles, Smyrna, Viper, and a sample of Orange Blossom Honey. Those and a 60 mil bottle of Vyno, can't get enough.

I love Ethervapes Bali Nights. One of the best RYO tobacco extractions out there. Before Vash closed down (I am not even sure he has at last check) I made sure to order more Bali Nights.

Vash has a talent and his NETs are as good as anyone's. I really do hope when this attack on vaping by the FDA passes he comes back and gets back to making great NETs.

It's good to know that Clay has a similar juice to Bali Nights.

 

[checkum]

It's an assumption we have made that there is some residual nicotine but that is just to recognize the possibility is there... not that there is any. I know of a set of tests on Ahlusion NET's that in some cases none was detected but now those are in question since Ahlusion has later implied they were not using actual NET's ( as we define here )... We do know that soaking tobacco isn't very effective method to the extract nicotine and at most only traces are likely. What is defined as a trace is unknown AFAIK

It is probably best just to say there was no added nic beyond what may have come from the extraction itself. We also know that other vegetables also contain nicotine in them... so no one eating veggies are going to be completely nic free.

thanks for the update to my question rdsok. your explanation kind of confirms my suspicions that there could be some traces of nicotine in real tobacco extractions, however slight.

 

[rdsok]

thanks for the update to my question rdsok. your explanation kind of confirms my suspicions that there could be some traces of nicotine in real tobacco extractions, however slight.

It actually confirms nothing... You can only say that others like you ( and me ) think that... nothing more. Let's not make something "a fact" in our minds based only on uneducated guess's that many of us have.