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I just got an order in from the houseofliquids dot com,,, let me tell ya this is some serious tobacco liquid, so much so there is tobacco leaves bunched up into the bottle. Anyone looking for some really good tobacco type vapes should try this stuff out = EL TORO GRANDE

It's very different then the liquids we are use to vaping, and I mean that in a good way. All these natural Tobacco's they have are vaping very well:)
 
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I just got an order in from the houseofliquids dot com,,, let me tell ya this is some serious Tobacco liquid, so much so there is tobacco leaves bunched up into the bottle. Anyone looking for some really good tobacco type vapes should try this stuff out = EL TORO GRANDE

It's very different then the liquids we are use to vaping, and I mean that in a good way. All these natural Tobacco's they have are vaping very well:)


Yep, serious! I got half of their line and a fellow ECF member got the other half. As soon as he gets his, we will start the steeping process (for the Grande line) which is anywhere from 5-10 days. Because El Toro Grande is a DYOE (do your own extract) they send you a bottle of leaves and 2x40 mL bottles of 50/50 base (making a lot of juice). I picked two separate nicotine strengths and Virginia leaves, while my accomplice got the Guevara and two separate nic bases. We are going to trade half of everything so as to try the full array. I went ahead and tried the Clasico Line, which is already extracted, and I can attest to it being top-notch true NET! Here is a sample pic that I am enjoying seeing at my station...

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This is what is included:

1 X 50ml Bottle with apx 10g uncut tobacco filled with 40ml liquid
1 X 50ml Bottle with El Toro ready mix 50/50 base of the same nic strength as the order (when the first liquid is finish the bottle with the tobacco leaves can be refiled and is just as good if not better)
1 X 30ml Empty bottle
1 X Basic filter system (1 x mini Funnel, 2 x elastic bands, 2 x material filters)

(Taken from the HOL site site)

I decided I wanted two nic strengths as opposed to one.
 

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I'm vaping on the Virginia Prime myself Mr Mann, I figured the time it took to get here was a long enough steep for me to start on one of them. I'm really enjoying this. I also got the Cigarillos Naturales, and the Puros Naturales, and a bottle of the Organic Tobacco from the Papillon Line. Also two bottles of the Highbrow Blackberry Lemoncello, and they also threw in a sample of something else I havent tried yet, and put me in the in_private CLUB,,,,

So far I have only been vaping on the Virginia Prime, and like it A-LOT :) I did sample the Cigarillo Naturales and the Puros Naturales too and those are both excellent as well, but I'm letting everything steep and going to keep hitting the Virginia Prime for a while and let those other Steep a bit :)

I think it's pretty cool how there system works and pouring the liquid into the bottle filled with the natural tobacco leaf. Mine came with one bottle already full with the leave and liquid in it, then once that's empty you pour the other bottle into the empty one with the Tobacco leaves in it,,,,, pretty optimum way to make a real Tobacco liquid how they do this, the flavor is also as real as its ever going to get, and dam good stuff we have here :)
 
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I'm vaping on the Virginia Prime myself Mr Mann, I figured the time it took to get here was a long enough steep for me to start on one of them. I'm really enjoying this. I also got the Cigarillos Naturales, and the Puros Naturales, and a bottle of the Organic Tobacco from the Papillon Line. Also two bottles of the Highbrow Blackberry Lemoncello, and they also thrw in a sample of something else I havent tried yet, and put me in the in_private CLUB,,,,

So far I have only been vaping on the Virginia Prime, and like it A-LOT :) I did sample the Cigarillo Naturales and the Puros Naturales too and those are both excellent too, but I'm letting everything steep and going to keep hitting the Virginia Prime for a while and let those other Steep a bit :)

Oh, you got yours with the liquid in it? I told eBaron to ship my liquid separately because I figured the shipping from overseas may extend beyond my desired steep time. Oh yeah, the Cigarillos is quite the TRUE tasting NET. As a side note, I am happy to finally use the word "steep" in its proper context, cause those leaves really are being steeped!

p.s. All U.S orders are now being sent out dry.

p.s.2 What are you vaping it out of? I mean the delivery device?
 

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I'm directly dripping into a HH-357 1.5ohm with a Empire Drip Shield set up on my Darwin, and I also filled up another set up I have that is a small 4ml Atty tank :)

I'm thinking of filling up my VV Reo Grand next :) or maybe a couple of my Reo's :)

I was actually surprised how fast mine got here, it took only 5 days to arrive, so it worked out perfect.
 
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House of LIquid... - so happy you're all enjoying...................................

No...strike that. I'm not happy you're all enjoying, means less for me. I even had my PMs ready to go with instructions on where to send it all. Hmph

:D I really like the cigar flavors. (no vanilla caramel blah). I get mine shipped to my sis, then she mails to me (if I'm lucky lol).
 
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House of LIquid... - so happy you're all enjoying...................................

No...strike that. I'm not happy you're all enjoying, means less for me. I even had my PMs ready to go with instructions on where to send it all. Hmph

:D I really like the cigar flavors. (no vanilla caramel blah). I get mine shipped to my sis, then she mails to me (if I'm lucky lol).


Im with you, I love real extracted cigar tobacs. w/nothing added like you say - van/carmel, etc.
 

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The real life taste of this Virginia tobacco in this El Toro juice Im using is pretty amazing, how they bunch up the Real Tobacco leaves and put them in the bottle with the Nic/VG/PG is about as real as it gets here guys. This is some really tasty stuff we got going on here.
 

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Then I'm going to tip my hat in the ring and highy recommend HoL next time you plan to purchase. Their cigars rock. I honestly think you'll be thrilled. And if you're not I'll buy them from you.
:)

Im with you, I love real extracted cigar tobacs. w/nothing added like you say - van/carmel, etc.
 

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LOLOL - well, so far they are my favouritest - I'm kinda shy so I wasn't sure if that really came across ..... :evil: I'm looking forward to seeing all the reviews.

Speaking of tenacity and sticktoitveness I get a very vague impression you're keen on Ahlusion but can't be certain about that. :)evil::evil: )



I love your tenacity and sticktoitiveness, Hula! :laugh:
 

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Hi,

Have been trying to follow this thread for the past couple of weeks, really has gone fast.

Based on the vendor and flavor recommendations I have seen here I finally decided to start at least somewhere. So, I called up HHV and talked with the very helpful lady and ordered Dark Horse and Gandalf at 15mg and 30 ml. each. Hope I did right at least for a start.

I'm particularly interested in the NET juices as I'm hoping they will have a similar calming effect, I guess you'd call it, as has the WTA juices I've gotten in the past out of a vendor in AZ. Their DHT, GI Joe, and such have been fine but are for me very pricey and maybe are too calming. Also, I wonder about the safety of WTA, but I'm no scientist so what would I know, I don't admittedly. What pacifying or calming effect if any do y'all get from the NET type juices? I've been able to come down from starting at 36mg. last December to 12-15mg+or- presently. I like stuff like 555 from GeJ and the chap in AZ but don't seem to be able to get such with WTA or NET. Perhaps I just didn't see it. I avoid sweets, fruits, menthol and such, just prefer a solid tobacco flavor, of course highly subjective that. From what I've read it looks like the NETs might be safer than the WTAs? Wondering.

I really would like your alls experienced suggestions. Being retired have to watch the budget, money tree has withered.

Thank you, this has been a fast moving but very interesting thread to me.
 

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Have you read this? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/230570-wta-e-liquid-issues.html That is pretty much the deal on WTA (it's worth several reads). NETs are something entirely different. There may be more of a feeling related to smoking through the taste of real tobacco leaves, like from W2V or Ahlusion or House of Liquid, but if in fact NET juices have any whole tobacco alkaloids it would probably be negligible. I do get a head rush from some NET juices if the nic is high enough, but it is not a sustained feeling like that of WTA juices. WTA extraction leaves certain alkaloids in; NET is about extracting flavor, though some other elements may come out, it would be happenstance, not intention. I vape both WTA and NET almost entirely.
 
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Hi,

Have been trying to follow this thread for the past couple of weeks, really has gone fast.

Based on the vendor and flavor recommendations I have seen here I finally decided to start at least somewhere. So, I called up HHV and talked with the very helpful lady and ordered Dark Horse and Gandalf at 15mg and 30 ml. each. Hope I did right at least for a start.

I'm particularly interested in the NET juices as I'm hoping they will have a similar calming effect, I guess you'd call it, as has the WTA juices I've gotten in the past out of a vendor in AZ. Their DHT, GI Joe, and such have been fine but are for me very pricey and maybe are too calming. Also, I wonder about the safety of WTA, but I'm no scientist so what would I know, I don't admittedly. What pacifying or calming effect if any do y'all get from the NET type juices? I've been able to come down from starting at 36mg. last December to 12-15mg+or- presently. I like stuff like 555 from GeJ and the chap in AZ but don't seem to be able to get such with WTA or NET. Perhaps I just didn't see it. I avoid sweets, fruits, menthol and such, just prefer a solid tobacco flavor, of course highly subjective that. From what I've read it looks like the NETs might be safer than the WTAs? Wondering.

I really would like your alls experienced suggestions. Being retired have to watch the budget, money tree has withered.

Thank you, this has been a fast moving but very interesting thread to me.

I haven't tried WTA (except for a few puffs the other day) for fear getting hooked on something again that I've already managed to kick once, so I can't really give you a direct comparison. I haven't really noticed any additional (chemically-based) calming effect from NET's versus other non-extracts that I vape on occasion. It might be there, but if it is, it's so subtle that I haven't noticed it. I am calmed by the satisfaction of getting a quality-made product that I enjoy though, for what it's worth. For the most part I personally treat these juices like their flammable counterparts and unwind with a nice cigar or pipe juice, and more cigarette-y or non-extracted juices are more for utilitarian consumption, but I think that's mostly psychological.
 
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