Natural Tobaccos

[Mr.Mann]

Vermillion River is well worth trying. They have a bunch of tobacco flavors that use the same tobacco (I don't know if this was ever confirmed but I am convinced of it) but add different top notes and give it another name. So if you like one juice, there's a high likelihood you'll like a whole bunch of them. The opposite is also true. I happened to fall on the "opposite" side but VR has a nice business so there are many who fell on the "right" side. And with an offer like MM just posted, you can't go wrong. It could be a treasure trove for anyone willing to go for it.

They basically have 3 or 4 with different takes on those extracts. Kentucky Premium (has its own line with variations), Classic Tobacco (only two), K-Max is a blend of KPB and Classic (only two; K-Max and one menthol K-Max), and Poker Blend and Game Night are different.

Vermillion is one of those vendors that gets their extracts outsourced and makes their own "blend" of those. However, those blends are generally only blended with other flavors, not other tobaccos. They pretty much released an EP with several remixes (not a full length LP here. LOL).

 

[Bronze]

They basically have 3 or 4 with different takes on those extracts. Kentucky Premium (has its own line with variations), Classic Tobacco (only two), K-Max is a blend of KPB and Classic (only two; K-Max and one menthol K-Max), and Poker Blend and Game Night are different.

Vermillion is one of those vendors that gets their extracts outsourced and makes their own "blend" of those. However, those blends are generally only blended with other flavors, not other tobaccos. They pretty much released an EP with several remixes (not a full length LP here. LOL).

I did try one of those odd balls..either Poker Blend or Game Night. Wow, let's just say it didn't work out. Calling them "different" might be an understatement.

 

[shatner]

I've thought a bit about the differences and similarities in the base tobaccos of the various Ahlusion NETs. I just put them into groups of related characteristics, then thought I'd do a taxonomic hierarchy, sort of. (I hope I can figure out how to attach this. . .)

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Certainly breaks the 'family tree' down and makes it even more obvious which are related. Is Dulce Cubanito a straight synth?

Thanks for tossing that together, btw.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I did try one of those odd balls..either Poker Blend or Game Night. Wow, let's just say it didn't work out. Calling them "different" might be an understatement.

Yeah, well, I don't think Sharon is in the market for those (don't know who is exactly).

 

[Mr.Mann]

YCY, I think you missed a couple---times 10. LOL. Have you tried the RTBs (River Tree Blends)? I think Wild Woods stand in front of them (RTBs), and then the House Blends stand waaaaaay behind those. Hell, the House Blends stand behind their teas for tobacco impact. LOL

 

[shatner]

Big Spirit is probably closest you'll find to an American Spirit, as the only flavoring in it is from an extraction of American Spirit tobacco. As a cig style vape, it's pretty damn good. The experience to me is like removing the flavor of the burning paper, and upping the pure tobacco taste of a cig.

First thing you'll want to find out is if you actually like NET, or prefer synthetic tobacco flavors. Only way to find out is to try a NET, and Big Spirit is as good a place to start as any.

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As is Gold, also from NET.com. It's pretty mild. Actually, I find myself reaching for Gold and Mad Murdock's Maha Ras as my main vapes. Oh, and H1N1, too. Anyway, Gold is a home run by Clay, imo.

 

[SharonMM]

Omg, I love vermilion river! They are local to me and KPB is actually the first liquid I ever bought. But I've vaped so much of it, that I'm almost burnt out. I agree its excellent. Unfortunately, and this has been mentioned already, but I totally agree, there isn't much differentiation in their tobacco line. I've had a chance to try them all in the store, but I didn't see a reason to buy anything more than kpb. And believe me, I was looking hard for a reason!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Omg, I love vermilion river! They are local to me and KPB is actually the first liquid I ever bought. But I've vaped so much of it, that I'm almost burnt out. I agree its excellent. Unfortunately, and this has been mentioned already, but I totally agree, there isn't much differentiation in their tobacco line. I've had a chance to try them all in the store, but I didn't see a reason to buy anything more than kpb. And believe me, I was looking hard for a reason!

Well, at least I was correct that you would like it. Wow. I feel so much better, but I wished I could've been the one to hip you on to it. That would've been sweet! Back to the drawing board.

I knew you would dig it, but apparently, you've dug the hell out of it already. LOL

 

[shatner]

Yep, let us know if Big Spirit is your thang. If so, this thread is probably the best resource on the interNET for vapes made from real tobacco. Big Spirit will be good fairly early, no long term steeping needed.

Boba's Bounty is good, really good. But.. it's not a tobacco. Some people taste it as tobacco, and when in a rare and weird mood I sometimes did too. For me and most others here it's a dessert or bakery type flavor. Honey graham cracker to me, oatmeal raisin cookie to some, raisin bran to others.. but for NET vapers it's pretty far from tobacco. Overall, as hyped up as it's been for years, it's really just a solid vape than many like and many don't, just like thousands of other juices.

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Speaking of Boba's Bounty, I bought a 30ml of it today.

 

[Bronze]

Omg, I love vermilion river! They are local to me and KPB is actually the first liquid I ever bought. But I've vaped so much of it, that I'm almost burnt out. I agree its excellent. Unfortunately, and this has been mentioned already, but I totally agree, there isn't much differentiation in their tobacco line. I've had a chance to try them all in the store, but I didn't see a reason to buy anything more than kpb. And believe me, I was looking hard for a reason!

Whew! I thought you were gonna say you loved Poker Blend and Game Night and make fools out of me and MM.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Ah, GEN Washington, you missed opening page 1776 of this thread by only one post! Damn...

 

[johni]

Whew! I thought you were gonna say you loved Poker Blend and Game Night and make fools out of me and MM.

The only guy I remember posting that he liked those was Thucydides, the James Bond guy. His description of them was enough to convince me I didn't need any. He used "leather" as a descriptor multiple times. I dig leather but don't want to vape it!

 

[danwicklund]

How do I extract or infuse my own flavors. Best method? Anyone?


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[Bronze]

The only guy I remember posting that he liked those was Thucydides, the James Bond guy. His description of them was enough to convince me I didn't need any. He used "leather" as a descriptor multiple times. I dig leather but don't want to vape it!

I'd prefer to be whipped by it.

 

[Bronze]

Ah, GEN Washington, you missed opening page 1776 of this thread by only one post! Damn...

Oh well. He didn't sign the Declaration of Independence anyway. He was too busy running away from Redcoats.

 

[johni]

How do I extract or infuse my own flavors. Best method? Anyone?


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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...57599-slow-cooker-extraction-tobacco-tea.html

 

[Vapo Marx]

How about room temperature maceration? Is heat better?

 

[Jerms]

How about room temperature maceration? Is heat better?

Heat is quicker. Both methods can provide a different experience, but I haven't heard one being surperior to the other. Probably depends on the tobacco used and personal preference (see heat and cold options on NETcom).

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[Vapo Marx]

Black Cav: I expected this to be a chest-thumper but it's actually quite smooth. Then again, I bought it in 8mg and haven't dripped it yet.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Heat is quicker. Both methods can provide a different experience, but I haven't heard one being surperior to the other. Probably depends on the tobacco used and personal preference (see heat and cold options on NETcom).

Cool. I was just wondering 'cause I don't have a slow cooker.