Natural Tobaccos

[Bob Chill]

I have an igo-l clone from FT and really like it. I'm going to build a micro setup for it though. I have it rigged dual coil and I honestly don't think it's necessary at all. I also have silica wicks which are nice for dry burning without switching wicks but I've watched enough vids on cotton to know that's the way to go.

I think the only thing I would prefer in an rba that the igo-l doesn't have is holes in the posts for the wire. Much easier to clamp down that way. It's not that big of a deal but it would make like easier.

Vapo, dripping nets blows away tanks. I can't do it any other way now. Always a clean vape and simple to keep the coils spotless. You don't have to drip as often as you think (at least as often as I thought). You can drip 10+ drops with no issue and vape for quite a while before adding more.

 

[Mr.Mann]

no one is left feeling apathetic about these liquids.

Astute point!

 

[Vapo Marx]

Vapo, dripping nets blows away tanks. I can't do it any other way now. Always a clean vape and simple to keep the coils spotless. You don't have to drip as often as you think (at least as often as I thought). You can drip 10+ drops with no issue and vape for quite a while before adding more.

Indeed, I dripped VB in my Smoktech and it was a revelation. But being new to this, I have a hard time judging when I should add more liquid, especially with the Smoktech's freakishly long wicks all coiled up inside, and I ended up making a mess. Perhaps I'll clip the wicks short just to make it a little easier to tell when it's time to drip.

 

[Jerms]

I hear ya. I only got my Evod kit six days ago and I've already changed the head in the one I use for Vita Bella, and shall probably have to change it again soon. I don't think you'll have any clogging problems with HHV; I've vaped several of their NETs in little disposable clearos (E-smarts) with no gunking even after repeated fills.

Jerms (or anyone else), would you recommend the IGO-L for a dripping newbie? I'm considering that or the Phoenix "Bully" linked earlier in the thread. My Smoktech RDA works pretty well but I need something a little more goof-proof.

Yeah, I'd recommend any of the IGOs. The IGO-L has a lot of room to work with and is easy to rebuild. The IGO-S and A6 I prefer because they are smaller, so it depends on your preference for dripper size. The IGO-L will hold a lot more drops if that's important for you. The IGO-S and A6 has holes in the posts for a slightly eaiser rebuild, as you just stick the leads in the holes and screw down instead of wrapping them around the screw with the IGO-L and Phoenix.

Rebuildable drippers are cheap. A few bucks for the Phoenix or ERA clones at FastTech and $9 to $12 for the IGO series, A6, and many other newer ones in the states. Try a few to find a preference (and to have a few built and ready to go).

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[Jerms]

Indeed, I dripped VB in my Smoktech and it was a revelation. But being new to this, I have a hard time judging when I should add more liquid, especially with the Smoktech's freakishly long wicks all coiled up inside, and I ended up making a mess. Perhaps I'll clip the wicks short just to make it a little easier to tell when it's time to drip.

Is it the big Smok RDA with the air-hole on base of the atty? Yeah, clip the wicks. Then take those clippings in one hand, the RDA is the other, and deposit both in a trash can lol. I hate that dripper, retired it quick.

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[jefsview]

Indeed, I dripped VB in my Smoktech and it was a revelation. But being new to this, I have a hard time judging when I should add more liquid, especially with the Smoktech's freakishly long wicks all coiled up inside, and I ended up making a mess. Perhaps I'll clip the wicks short just to make it a little easier to tell when it's time to drip.

Rebuild the coil and you'll have a much better experience.

The coil that came with my Phoenix was meh. Even my first attempt tasted and performed better.

 

[jefsview]

Started the morning with Organic #1, and now I am grooving on some GJ4.

A very good morning.

 

[Bronze]

Have some QnJ's Hump Back going here.

 

[Jerms]

Started the morning with Organic #1, and now I am grooving on some GJ4.

A very good morning.

Finishing off Dulce, then...hmmmm.. maybe finish off JG Blend. Later this week my current rotation will go from this..



To this..



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[RussCA]

Jerms (or anyone else), would you recommend the IGO-L for a dripping newbie? I'm considering that or the Phoenix "Bully" linked earlier in the thread. My Smoktech RDA works pretty well but I need something a little more goof-proof.

I really like my Igo-L. It seems fairly easy to me, especially when you get into microcoils.

I guess the question is, what are the goofs you're running into with the Smoktech? I've never worked with one of those, so I don't know what problems you're having and whether the igo-L would help solve them.

 

[RussCA]

We actually briefly discussed this recently.

Sorry, I've read almost half of this thread, but I started from the beginning. I didn't actually start reading the recent posts until my first post here the other day. I did do a search for the term, but didn't find the stuff that addressed my question.

Straight from their website...

F.a.q: What is an aromatic blend? Generally (not necessarily in the vaping world), aromatic tobacco blends are those which give off a distinct, complex and more robust aroma and room note, like in various moist pipe blends. This is mainly due to added flavoring. When it comes to our natural aromatic blends (in our Premium line), we've captured those specific flavors and aromas derived (mainly) from our Burleys, Virginias, Perique and Latakia blends.

Yes, that is the source of my confusion. "This is mainly due to added flavoring." (referring to aromatics) matches my experience with pipe tobaccos, but the tobaccos A+ uses in their description of aromatics sounds a lot like English blends of pipe tobacco, which are usually the alternative to an aromatic. Also, A+ seems to include tobacco with other flavors in it (such as vanilla in Vurley, various fruits) in both the aromatic and the non-aromatic groups. In the pipe world, the other flavors are what makes a blend an aromatic.

Ahlusion aromatics are HARDCORE. They taste, smell and feel as close to combusted tobacco as I have ever experienced in a liquid. They are definitely not for the faint of heart and they WILL make an impression on you, good or bad. No one is left feeling apathetic about these liquids.

Non-aromatics are much milder in comparison and have a fresher, sweeter taste. I personally prefer these and can not tolerate the aros unless I'm pretty drunk.

This is another example of the A+ tobacco categories sounding very different from my understanding of pipe tobaccos. Usually aromatics are lighter, sweeter, and more approachable for new pipe smokers.

Here's a page that describes aromatics vs English blends more the way I'm accustomed to seeing them defined: Tobacconist University : Tobacco College : Pipe Tobacco : Blending : BLENDING

Just realized I've used up my morning writing this and I've got to go to work. I suspect there's at least editing problems with this post, but I don't have time to inspect it and fix them. Sorry for any sloppiness.

 

[rdsok]

To me... aromatic means ( in reference to tobacco's ) that is more fragrant ( has more of a room note ) and is ( from what I tried ) usually a heavier flavored tobacco. Many of the actual aromatic pipes I had ( which wasn't a lot really ) also had other flavorings added such as apple or cherry as a couple of examples but were to enhance the heavier flavor the tobacco itself had.

I wasn't a heavy pipe smoker... I just used it for a while frequently ( about a year or so trying to switch off of cigarettes ) and then later just as an occasional treat.

 

[Vapo Marx]

I guess the question is, what are the goofs you're running into with the Smoktech? I've never worked with one of those, so I don't know what problems you're having and whether the igo-L would help solve them.

My initial impression of "the octopus" was very favorable - and it DID give me a great vape when it was working right - but the way it's designed makes it too easy for things to get messy if you over-drip. With the way the coil/posts sit relative to the opening in the top cover, the lack of a "lip" on the base and the low positioning of the air inlet, this is very easy to do.

Now I've got a Bully and some kanthal on the way IGO will be probably be next in line to try if the Phoenix doesn't bring me ecstasy.

 

[Big Juicy]

I keep wanting to try Ahlusion, but I've never managed to get to their site when they're open and I have available vape budget.

While I'm on the subject of Ahlusion, what is with their 'aromatic/non-aromatic' terms? They are reminiscent of pipe tobacco terminology, but seem almost the opposite or maybe just completely unrelated. It has confused me often.

Slept through the alarm and missed out on Ahlusion AGAIN.

it is starting to piss me off. I GET it...but it still chaps my heinie.

 

[Big Juicy]

Don't forget the Bananas



BJ, I'd recommend the Vanilla Black Tea and request it without sweetner, my favorites were Masala Cha & Cha-Yen Cardamon. Both are Spicy, complex Teas and they're a good diversion when I want something different from my daily juices.

I have tried the Cha yen. I am a big Thai Tea guy, like a couple times a week. I was VERY disappointed. veen a steep didn;t save that liquid. In fact, it was only marginally better than Highbrow's version. Both were...ok. I vaped them but would not order again. I just had a good Masala Chai at Indian on Saturday night, a personal favorite drink. I will likely sample Ahlusion's juice, but that will be the last Chai or Thai tea I try. Hopefully it works as the W&A sassy works on the authentic spice level. I am considering the Vanilla Tea. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[Big Juicy]

Started the morning with Organic #1, and now I am grooving on some GJ4.

A very good morning.

I am vaping a lot of GJ4 daily. I can't put that stuff down. It is going to force my hand to place an order with either QnJ or MOV to get a new RY4 in the house ASAP. Days have been Coventry all morning, heavy GJ4 throughout the day, and London in the afternoon. Nights the last week have mainly been NETCOM's - Mango Vanilla, Black Cav, and Balkan

 

[Bronze]

My initial impression of "the octopus" was very favorable - and it DID give me a great vape when it was working right - but the way it's designed makes it too easy for things to get messy if you over-drip. With the way the coil/posts sit relative to the opening in the top cover, the lack of a "lip" on the base and the low positioning of the air inlet, this is very easy to do.

Now I've got a Bully and some kanthal on the way IGO will be probably be next in line to try if the Phoenix doesn't bring me ecstasy.

If you want ecstasy and have $105 get a Kayfun Lite from InTaste.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Vaped through 1.5 mil of VB on my way to work today (yum!) and now I'm finishing off a serving of Analog. I've noticed the latter starts tasting really good when it gets "cooked" - right around the time my clearo becomes too gunked up to continue

 

[AnthonyB]

Vapo Marx,

HHV doesn't clog much thankfully. I think the trick with tanks and clearos is to use synthetics and known gunk free NETS like HHV and NET.com and rebuildable drippers and genesis style atomizers (like the RSST and AGA-T2) for gunky NETs.

The Igo-L is a wonderful dripper. it's a bit easier to build than the Phoenix with a little more room inside and around the screw. I find that even a sloppy build will still give great vapor and flavour. It's less prone to hot spots than a Phoenix or one of it's clones. You are still going to get gunking but you can dry burn it off.

I hear ya. I only got my Evod kit six days ago and I've already changed the head in the one I use for Vita Bella, and shall probably have to change it again soon. I don't think you'll have any clogging problems with HHV; I've vaped several of their NETs in little disposable clearos (E-smarts) with no gunking even after repeated fills.

Jerms (or anyone else), would you recommend the IGO-L for a dripping newbie? I'm considering that or the Phoenix "Bully" linked earlier in the thread. My Smoktech RDA works pretty well but I need something a little more goof-proof.

 

[MFToms59]

Yeah... my Plume room order (9/10) shipped today. I think the Banana Pudding held it up, I hear the Bananas are Imported , on a side note;

From Wiki; In global commerce in 2009, by far the most important cultivars belonged to the triploid AAA group of Musa acuminata, commonly referred to as Cavendish group bananas...

Worldwide, there is no sharp distinction between "bananas" and "plantains". Especially in the Americas and Europe, "banana" usually refers to soft, sweet, dessert bananas, particularly those of the Cavendish group, which are the main exports from banana-growing countries.

A Natural for blending with Tobaccos(?)