Natural Tobaccos

[Tezcatlipoca]

Out of curiosity, has anyone been using AVA atomizers with NET's, particularly those that are harder on attys? I've been very curious to see how they would hold up compared to a standard atty.

 

[TBinAZ]

Pretty nice concept for an atty. $40 is a tough nut to chew though with everything else available out there. If I had to make a guess, I would say that it may have clog issues with some of the juices like W2V. That porous ceramic could prove to be tough to clean and flush out. But, they do carry a 90 day replacement warranty, no questions asked. Just not sure how many times you would get away with it before they would cut you off.

Out of curiosity, has anyone been using AVA atomizers with NET's, particularly those that are harder on attys? I've been very curious to see how they would hold up compared to a standard atty.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I am surprised that W2V hasn't partnered with an atty making company to get specs made to alleviate the un-exaggerated atty clogging issues. I have their atty refresher and it works fine, but using it everyday is for the birds, not for a vaper.

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

Pretty nice concept for an atty. $40 is a tough nut to chew though with everything else available out there. If I had to make a guess, I would say that it may have clog issues with some of the juices like W2V. That porous ceramic could prove to be tough to clean and flush out. But, they do carry a 90 day replacement warranty, no questions asked. Just not sure how many times you would get away with it before they would cut you off.

Yeah, with a warranty like that, it may be worth a shot. I have a friend who swears by them, but he's not a tobacco guy. The LR puts out awesome flavor and vapor.

I am surprised that W2V hasn't partnered with an atty making company to get specs made to alleviate the un-exaggerated atty clogging issues. I have their atty refresher and it works fine, but using it everyday is for the birds, not for a vaper.

Yeah, what with the newer generation of more atty-friendly NET's (GeJ, Ahlusion), they're gonna have to do something. The competition is getting a little too stiff out there.

 

[TBinAZ]

Forgot to mention that after the 90 day warranty is up, they will rebuild yours for like $10. That's a selling point right there. Not shabby for a 'factory' rebuild, BUT (and there's always a but involved with this stuff) you would need to have TWO so that you can still have the great vape you're used to while the other is sent out. So, I guess if you wanted to do it right, you'd be looking at an $80 initial investment. Personally, I think I'll stay with my Chinese knock-off rebuildables for now.

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

LR AVA purchased...

 

[Mr.Mann]

LR AVA purchased...

Good ish, Tez! I knew there was something to be gained by the minds here talking about attys and such.

 

[Hulamoon]

Don't worry TBz - just make one or two small downsizing adjustments elsewhere...
Ultra Mini Bike - Yahoo!

Pretty nice concept for an atty. $40 is a tough nut to chew though with everything else available out there. If I had to make a guess, I would say that it may have clog issues with some of the juices like W2V. That porous ceramic could prove to be tough to clean and flush out. But, they do carry a 90 day replacement warranty, no questions asked. Just not sure how many times you would get away with it before they would cut you off.

 

[TBinAZ]

All this talk about W2V has prompted me to pull out some aged London and Paris. Good golly this stuff is raucous. I've said this before, but if I were to close my eyes right now, I'd swear I was smokin' a stogie. Wow. A good steep has really done these juices well. The smokey smokey bit I got originally has toned down quite a bit for me.

 

[TBinAZ]

Hahahaha. That dude actually rode that thing. Too much.

Don't worry TBz - just make one or two small downsizing adjustments elsewhere...
Ultra Mini Bike - Yahoo!

 

[EleanorR]

Dang it dang it dang it dang it. I thought I was through with juice hunting.

Oh wait, Blue Grass Burley is an Ahlusion juice, so it's OK for me to try it! (Just no new vendors for me, puh-lees!)

 

[Victor Vandyke]

I am using it with an adapter on either a Precise+ 18650 or a ProVari. In all honesty--I hope this doesn't start something--I think the Premium 901 1.5 from Empire Mods is a more user friendly and much better bang for your buck than the HH. I have a HH 357, but the 901 wowed me from the first vape. The HH.357 eats up a lot of juice, spits a ton into your mouth, has terrible dry hits (if you don't have it wet properly) and is way too pricey. You can get two of the 901s with an adapter for the price of one HH.357 with a few bucks to spare. Don't get me wrong the HH is a good atty, but worth 25 bucks (shipping included), I don't think so. Once again, the Premium 901 is a primer free, no break-in required, awesome atty IMHO. While the HH may be in a class of it's own, I don't think it is a supremely better atty by any means. Most of the stuff that people fail to say in their exalting of their respective set-up is, once you reach a certain level of hardware, the differences are small percentages, not like the difference between a 808 pen and a big batt mod. My point is, you can have a very satisfying vape without having to spend extra time and money trying to master anything.

Lastly, all the best hardware in the world don't mean a thing if it ain't got the good juice!

Now that I'm settling into a vaping "style" I'm seriously considering an upgrade to the Precise+ 18650 for power. The reviews I've seen have been universally positive. But, just to check with another who vapes a lot of NETs, if you had it to do all over again is this what you would get for yourself today? The ProVari isn't out of the question for me (as my understanding is that they add extra filtering to smooth the PWM/Buck/Boost power effects that I perceive to dislike on cheaper variable voltage designs), though I find myself not straying much past the 6 Watt mark even when I have the power to do so...

 

[Mr.Mann]

Now that I'm settling into a vaping "style" I'm seriously considering an upgrade to the Precise+ 18650 for power. The reviews I've seen have been universally positive. But, just to check with another who vapes a lot of NETs, if you had it to do all over again is this what you would get for yourself today? The ProVari isn't out of the question for me (as my understanding is that they add extra filtering to smooth the PWM/Buck/Boost power effects that I perceive to dislike on cheaper variable voltage designs), though I find myself not straying much past the 6 Watt mark even when I have the power to do so...

I am in a situation where I need the money so I am probably going to sell my P+ (2 tone: satin/ss) but I would not sell my ProVari if I needed the money. The P+ is great, but it is great in addition to, not necessarily as a solo device. But that is just me.

 

[stv4SC]

I would get a ProVari first. Yes I own both.

 

[Victor Vandyke]

I am in a situation where I need the money so I am probably going to sell my P+ (2 tone: satin/ss) but I would not sell my ProVari if I needed the money. The P+ is great, but it is great in addition to, not necessarily as a solo device. But that is just me.

Mmmmm... Now you got me thinking ProVari again. Your honest opinion is much appreciated here.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Mmmmm... Now you got me thinking ProVari again. Your honest opinion is much appreciated here.

It really depends on how you plan on using it. Some set-ups are better for a mechanical device, some are better for a vv; in the case where you are going to be trying a lot of different add-ons, I would go with the ProVari.

 

[Victor Vandyke]

Vendor: Ahulsion
Liquid: Blue Grass Burley
Vendor Description: This is our take on naturally grown air-cured Kentucky Burley tobacco. Our Blue Grass Burley is a warm, rich vape without the harmful ingredients and burnt aftertaste of the chemicals which mask the true taste of tobacco. Absolutely no artificial flavors or sweeteners added.
Set Up: Dripping on a standard bridgeless 510 atomizer on my pipe
Thoughts: Ahlusion just released their Blue Grass Burley for the first time. Yes, it's already sold out. Before I go into details, I want to explain that this is the best eliquid I've ever had. That's right. Out of all the liquids I've had in two years of vaping, this destroys them all. It's almost as if Ahlusion reached into my mind and made exactly what I dreamed of.

The smell is a very strong tobacco. It smells exactly like real tobacco with no additives. The eliquid color is medium brown. If you've ever had burley tobacco, it's strong with a smokey flavor. The tobacco has a medium depth, not light but not dark either. The great thing about Ahlusion is that their NETs do not leave residue. On inhale there is the new restored earth (better than heaven, read Revelation 21). A smokey flavor comes that doesn't overwhelm the senses. The burley tobacco is not too dry but not too wet either. It's a little leafy but in the great way tobacco is. The tobacco hits like real tobacco hits. On exhale the flavor doesn't change. This is not simply a vape, it's an experience. I feel like I'm truly smoking this tobacco.

Final thoughts: There's other legendary NETs out there that set the bar: Want2Vape Vapenstein line. Want2Vape has been top of the line for awhile now. It wasn't until Ahlusion released Devil Dog that I felt a vendor hit the Vapenstein quality. However, the Vapenstien line is made of very dark tobaccos that slowly kill atomizers and destroy cartomizers. For me they don't have the smoothness of an all day vape. Blue Grass Burley just set the bar. I can vape this one all day. A perfect balance of depth for a tobacco. As I wrote before this is an experience not just a vape. Blue Grass Burley destroys any other tobacco I've ever had. If you can get this, buy it.

Received my Ahlusion Blue Grass Burley today. Amazing flavor, right up in there with the W2V stuff I've had. It is gooping up my coils a bit, not as much as W2V but more than say a GeJ or HHV juice. Just gave the old coils a rinse and wipe down with W2V Atty Refresher; dry burn and we're good to go again. I'm vaping the hades out of this stuff and greatly enjoying it. 10/10, will buy again, and want to try the Devil Dog now. Get back to work Wlad and Alley, it looks like demand is outstripping supply. Good position to be in...

 

[TBinAZ]

You really do need to own a ProVari, just because. You will see what all the hype is about. I have one (ok maybe two) of the new Smok ZMax VV/VW devices coming soon via co-op. Could be a game changer, but unlikely. I don't think anything will give you more of a consistent vape than ProVari. I would also suggest the 24k gold version because it gives you a much better hit and vaping experience in general.

Mmmmm... Now you got me thinking ProVari again. Your honest opinion is much appreciated here.

 

[EleanorR]

Gosh, Tibs, you don't really need that second ProVari, do you? I mean, um, you could always just send it to me . . . I'd be happy to take it off your hands!

 

[Mr.Mann]

I am curious about the regulars here and what NET/vendors we have yet to try? I have some DarthVaper coming and I am not sure who is left out there I have yet to try at least once. I must say, we are, as a group, covering all bases. Is there any vendor that sells NETs that has yet to be vaped by at least one of us here???

After I find the list of all that sell extracts, I will post which ones are left for me to try.