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I really didn't experience the non-tobacco notes I've seen others pick out from Smooth Criminal. SC and Huntsman both play as straight tobaccos to me. Complex and layered, but the notes seem like tobacco notes. Even the detectable sweetness seems to come from the leaf, though only after being well aged.

I agree. The thing that I don't understand is that I got a prfofiled SC that is more than just extra extract. I think it's science. :D
 

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The juice tasted great in both of it's persuasions 1) Full sized Vapeonly BCC and 2) Protank Kangar. It's just so DIFFERENT. How can this be the same juice?

I found that BCCs need a couple mls to break them in. Also, are you using VV or VW? With VV a slight variation in the resistance of the coils could be in play. Also, different resistance coils could change the flavor even with the same wattage.
 

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The name is a put off and piques my curiosity at the same time.

Heather had the name "Sludge" in her head as something she wanted to do, so when they got busted (presumably by the Tolkien estate) for the names Gandalf, Shadowfax, and Gollum, they had a naming contest (1 day only, they must've been in a hurry!) and Heather preempted the rename of Gollum to Sludge. The other winners were Legend and Shadow.

Looking at the end of this thread (which I rarely visit since the legislative actions got so time-consuming) I'm wondering about Evod vs Nova and other things. I love my ViVi Novas but ANYTHING that will make my 50/50 mix of Legend and WTA Virginia taste stronger would maybe be worth trying. But it has to fit OK on a Lavatube, a Spinner, and a Gripper.

You long-term thread-followers, am I missing a bet here? (I thought I heard leak rumors about Evods, and also the need for extensions with some of the newer tankish things, and I'm already plenty peeved I need an extension to use a Nova on the LT if I don't want the bottom of the Nova to unscrew from the rest when I try to take the Nova off the LT. Extensions, like adaptors, can be a PITA.)
 

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I got honey from DF, not sure if others do. The sweetness I got from SC that got less and less with age was in the same category of sweetness as honey/caramel/maple but not specific to one. I didn't catch any graham in SC myself.

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DF is definitely a dark honey flavor to me as well, creamy and just the right amount of sweetness.
 

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Blue Lotus vape would be..... Indescribable.

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I know! It was the most otherworldly tea that I ever had the pleasure to drink!
 

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Heather had the name "Sludge" in her head as something she wanted to do, so when they got busted (presumably by the Tolkien estate) for the names Gandalf, Shadowfax, and Gollum, they had a naming contest (1 day only, they must've been in a hurry!) and Heather preempted the rename of Gollum to Sludge. The other winners were Legend and Shadow.

Looking at the end of this thread (which I rarely visit since the legislative actions got so time-consuming) I'm wondering about Evod vs Nova and other things. I love my ViVi Novas but ANYTHING that will make my 50/50 mix of Legend and WTA Virginia taste stronger would maybe be worth trying. But it has to fit OK on a Lavatube, a Spinner, and a Gripper.

You long-term thread-followers, am I missing a bet here? (I thought I heard leak rumors about Evods, and also the need for extensions with some of the newer tankish things, and I'm already plenty peeved I need an extension to use a Nova on the LT if I don't want the bottom of the Nova to unscrew from the rest when I try to take the Nova off the LT. Extensions, like adaptors, can be a PITA.)

I'm not a long-term thread follower but I can tell you about the hardware. Evods and T3/T3S are ego fitted you would have to get an extension to fit on a straight 510 connection. ProTank is 510 threaded but comes with a beauty skirt to make it look nice on an ego.
 

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Heather had the name "Sludge" in her head as something she wanted to do, so when they got busted (presumably by the Tolkien estate) for the names Gandalf, Shadowfax, and Gollum, they had a naming contest (1 day only, they must've been in a hurry!) and Heather preempted the rename of Gollum to Sludge. The other winners were Legend and Shadow.

Looking at the end of this thread (which I rarely visit since the legislative actions got so time-consuming) I'm wondering about Evod vs Nova and other things. I love my ViVi Novas but ANYTHING that will make my 50/50 mix of Legend and WTA Virginia taste stronger would maybe be worth trying. But it has to fit OK on a Lavatube, a Spinner, and a Gripper.

You long-term thread-followers, am I missing a bet here? (I thought I heard leak rumors about Evods, and also the need for extensions with some of the newer tankish things, and I'm already plenty peeved I need an extension to use a Nova on the LT if I don't want the bottom of the Nova to unscrew from the rest when I try to take the Nova off the LT. Extensions, like adaptors, can be a PITA.)

It wasn't the Tolkien estate, which would have been much more legitimate in my mind. It was Warner Brothers.
 

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I'm not a long-term thread follower but I can tell you about the hardware. Evods and T3/T3S are ego fitted you would have to get an extension to fit on a straight 510 connection. ProTank is 510 threaded but comes with a beauty skirt to make it look nice on an ego.

Are these drastically more true-to-flavor than the Nova or just individual opinion? The question was sparked by the comment about the full-sized vapeonly BCC.
 

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Are these drastically more true-to-flavor than the Nova or just individual opinion? The question was sparked by the comment about the full-sized vapeonly BCC.

I don't have a vivi nova but I have some iclear16s. It's a dual top coil like the nova. The BCCs are better to me. Drastic difference? Maybe? That's such a big word. Pick up an evod and try it out! They're not expensive... $5 or so. Oh, I haven't had a bcc leak yet. Probably jinxing myself now.
 

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I find that the Kanger BCC's as well as the Vapeonly BCC have better, more saturated flavor than the Vision Vivi Nova's hands down.

The only "leaked" info that I've heard about the Kanger line... is the T3 series is getting reworked to use a coil head similar to the Evod and ProTank.

I am assuming you meant the Vision Vivi Nova and not the Smoktech Vivi Nova or any other brand... you'd didn't specify and assuming that others will know specifically which one you mean is probably an easy way to not get the info you are looking for...
 

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It wasn't the Tolkien estate, which would have been much more legitimate in my mind. It was Warner Brothers.

It probably wouldn't have even been an issue but for the stills of the movie on the product pages.
 

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I find that the Kanger BCC's as well as the Vapeonly BCC have better, more saturated flavor than the Vision Vivi Nova's hands down.

The only "leaked" info that I've heard about the Kanger line... is the T3 series is getting reworked to use a coil head similar to the Evod and ProTank.

I am assuming you meant the Vision Vivi Nova and not the Smoktech Vivi Nova or any other brand... you'd didn't specify and assuming that others will know specifically which one you mean is probably an easy way to not get the info you are looking for...

Vision. Guess I'll look at those others.
 

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So I've been vaping Blue Fairy, Ahlusion's absinthe juice, tonight and really enjoying it. I felt adventurous and decided to try some of HHV's Jiggy. I think I really like Jiggy.

*quickly runs away from jeers and pointing fingers*

It probably is good. Hell, with me and my P15 and RR, I bet Jiggy would, well, I duuno. Why the hell "Jiggy?" That's so played it's not even a joke anymore. That's played. Maybe WIll Smith will send them a cease and desist as well. LOL.

I will be trying it soon just because I don't think I'll like it. I must question my beliefs.
 
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Gollum/Sludge reminds me of an English Christmas pudding. As to the name, our lady of the mixing magic decided she liked Sludge, and that they say, is the end. :)

Sludge, as a name, still perplexes me. I am goofy enough to be turned on by a liquid with a name like that, but I also would be the first to say it doesn't sound too appealing. Is there a story on that name?
 

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Hello everybody! I have been diligently doing my homework and have spent the better part of 3 days getting caught up on this thread after work (I am 6000 posts in). I have been vaping for two weeks now. I found HHV and their NETs during my first week. After "wasting my time" with non-tobacco juices for a week I have very much been enjoying the samples that I got on Saturday from HHV, as well as the bottle of Heavenly Tobacco (I know, not an NET, but I needed some tobacco that I could vape quickly as I was down to only a bottle of MBV watermelon from my first juice order and that was not cutting it). I am really looking forward to further exploring the NETs from various vendors as my bank account allows. I have Sludge, Heavenly Army, Dragon's Fire, and Pirate's Booty on the way to get them steeping while I vape Heavenly Tobacco during the wait.

Back to the past to continue reading this great thread and vaping my brains out :D (I know...seems crazy, but I am a bit OCD like this...). :vapor::blush:
 

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It probably is good. Hell, with me and my P15 and RR, I bet Jiggy would, well, I duuno. Why the hell "Jiggy?" That's so payed it's not even a joke anymore. That's played. Maybe WIll Smith will send them a cease and desist as well. LOL

Ah man I missed out on making a Will Smith joke. Well played!

I didn't say it was good, just that I think I like it lol. I've never smoked a hookah, but since it's extracted from shisha I'm guessing it's pretty spot on. It's very much umm, different and unique. Doesn't resemble much at all anything most would consider tobacco. I don't know if it will have legs, but for now I'm not regretting the purchase (as I did with Sweet Swish).

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Yes the cease and desist order came from Warner Brothers. I guess because they made a movie, they feel they own all the rights. I expect that future printings of Lord of the Rings books (gasp! There's still such terrible things about??) will undoubtedly be accredited to "based on the movie by Warner Brothers" the way things are going. Rant over. Grrrr. However, it was the use of stills from the movie that caused the party pooping.

Heather had the name "Sludge" in her head as something she wanted to do, so when they got busted (presumably by the Tolkien estate) for the names Gandalf, Shadowfax, and Gollum, they had a naming contest (1 day only, they must've been in a hurry!) and Heather preempted the rename of Gollum to Sludge. The other winners were Legend and Shadow.
 
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