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My first love with NET's was a perique by Vaperite, who at the time, was perhaps the only vendor doing NET's of perique. What I loved about the perique at the time was that it was the closest tasting early ERA net of cigars, period. The only one that came close was Want2Vape's Blondie but I hadn't tried that, I had only read about it.

Obviously, times have changed and there are better extracts of it, though, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't see any other NET vendor apart from Gej that have a perique?

I have a 30 ml bottle of perique from Gej and curiously, I have not vaped it yet except to sample it a few weeks ago. I KNOW I am going to like it, but it's my nature to leave best till last. Now I am curious again and might fill a tank or rba with it.

This thread has a great influence on what I tend to vape on any given day. Reading about Vita Bella and Perique have induced me to stick those in my bag as I head off to the office this morning.

Not exactly off topic, but I was surfin' the net this morning and found a delightful article on Perique. Posting it here for those interested.

The Mystique of Perique | The #1 Source for Pipes and Pipe Tobacco Information
 

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I am struggling to finish my Bounty Hunter. I liked the PG version better than the all VG version of it. I have vita bella as well so i might try that out Bill, though I am loathe to stick any precious Vita Bella in with an older juice that has become secondary now but I will do it on the strength of your vouch.

By the way, I recently got a bottle of Sundance by Niteline Vapor from Scarf-ace and for a sweet vape, that stuff is delicious.

Anthony,

If you love Vita Bella and don't like the VapeTV all-VG version of Bounty Hunter, then DON'T mix them. Keep your beloved Vita Bella pristine, and don't waste even a milliliter on a juice that you might stop vaping anyway.
 

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(I made this post in the NETty Awards thread, but I moved it here and deleted it there since that thread isn't really for the drawn out posts. This post is in regards to NET vendors using certain bases for some of their liquids.)

I would like to think that W2V sort of stands alone in the regard of not using a single base for more than two juices, and considering that they don't even include Pure Smoke or RY4 as one of their Premium or Signature juices, it would seem that they don't use a single base for more than one of their NETs (though I think they are).

As far as I know, Ahlusion uses specific blends (bases) for their House Blends, a specific one for their River Trees, and though all of those are considered non-aros, a few of their other non-aros start out differently (ex. Sahara, Dulce Cubanito, Gold Rising)*. A few of the aromatics start off with the same tobaccos, so that could be construed as a same "base," ex., Caribbean Blend and Honey Cured--those use light Virginias and Burleys but are cured with other natural flavors.

A lot of times when you see a vendor that has other flavors with NET that are advertised like NETs with "vanilla," banana," "cocoa," "maple"--which reminds me, MOV now has HEY JACK | Maple Cavendish NET E-Liquid--they often are using pre-existing blends and adding either other natural or artificial flavors.

Some vendors often times have juices that, before steeped, taste similar. This is likely due to the those shared elements and needing time for the added flavors or extracts to come forward, then joining and becoming one with the other flavors/extracted tobaccos so that the juice have its own identity.

This notion of a "base" is largely a semantics issue )at least with some of our NET vendors) except for the case of either TA juices, VR, and especially HB because HB uses a single blend for all of their tobaccos--that is what you call a base! (Though, with HB, their tobaccos don't exactly all taste the same--Brian does a good job of tweaking with added flavors. Whether you like them or not is different.) If a vendor uses, say, Burley, Cavendish, and Sweet Virginia in a few of their juices, does that mean a base? It most certainly does mean that. If a base is a shared element(s) that which other flavors or extracts are built upon, then once again, I don't know of any that don't do it in a couple juices, but most do it in more.

The case of Vermillion is that the Pokers, the Classic, Kentucky and the Max blends (Classic and Kentucky mix) use the same base per line. That is what it is, and although they don't tell you which tobaccos are used (I don't like that when vendors don't publicly state that), at least you know if you don't like the Classic Blend base (which I don't, although the Classic Blend is only one juice in its own line), then you can stay away from the rest of them--if you don't like the Kentucky Premium Blend, then that about knocks off the majority of their tobaccos, save for 4 or 5.

There are only but so many tobaccos that are going to work for imparting tasty flavor for NETs--some sharing of tobaccos amongst juices is going to happen. Some vendors do it more than others, but damn near all do it in some respect.

*Of course Smooth and Peachy Criminal share more than just a base, they are essentially the same juice just with another ingredient added to Peachy. I think JG Blend and Jungle Juice share a base, but I don't know about Vecchio and some of the others.

p.s. I have yet to ask a vendor which juices contain the same elements and not get an answer. That is a little less specific than asking what tobaccos, what extraction or filtration is used.
 
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My first love with NET's was a perique by Vaperite, who at the time, was perhaps the only vendor doing NET's of perique. What I loved about the perique at the time was that it was the closest tasting early ERA net of cigars, period. The only one that came close was Want2Vape's Blondie but I hadn't tried that, I had only read about it.

Obviously, times have changed and there are better extracts of it, though, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't see any other NET vendor apart from Gej that have a perique?

I have a 30 ml bottle of perique from Gej and curiously, I have not vaped it yet except to sample it a few weeks ago. I KNOW I am going to like it, but it's my nature to leave best till last. Now I am curious again and might fill a tank or RBA with it.

This thread has a great influence on what I tend to vape on any given day. Reading about Vita Bella and Perique have induced me to stick those in my bag as I head off to the office this morning.

I see you mentioned that the had a Perique extract. But Vaperite still does. In fact, I'm vaping a sample right now. Very distinct juice.
https://www.vaperite.com/vaperite-e...flavored-house-extracted-perique-tobacco.html

I'll have to try GeJ's version of it.
 

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(I made this post in the NETty Awards thread, but I moved it here and deleted it there since that thread isn't really for the drawn out posts. This post is in regards to NET vendors using certain bases for some of their liquids.)

I would like to think that W2V sort of stands alone in the regard of not using a single base for more than two juices, and considering that they don't even include Pure Smoke or RY4 as one of their Premium or Signature juices, it would seem that they don't use a single base for more than one of their NETs (though I think they are).

As far as I know, Ahlusion uses specific blends (bases) for their House Blends, a specific one for their River Trees, and though all of those are considered non-aros, a few of their other non-aros start out differently (ex. Sahara, Dulce Cubanito, Gold Rising)*. A few of the aromatics start off with the same tobaccos, so that could be construed as a same "base," ex., Caribbean Blend and Honey Cured--those use light Virginias and Burleys but are cured with other natural flavors.

A lot of times when you see a vendor that has other flavors with NET that are advertised like NETs with "vanilla," banana," "cocoa," "maple"--which reminds me, MOV now has HEY JACK | Maple Cavendish NET E-Liquid--they often are using pre-existing blends and adding either other natural or artificial flavors.

Some vendors often times have juices that, before steeped, taste similar. This is likely due to the those shared elements and needing time for the added flavors or extracts to come forward, then joining and becoming one with the other flavors/extracted tobaccos so that the juice have its own identity.

This notion of "bases" is largely a semantics issue except for the case of either TA juices, VR, and especially HB because HB uses a single blend for all of their tobaccos--that is what you call a base! (Though, with HB, their tobaccos don't exactly all taste the same--Brian does a good job of tweaking with added flavors. Whether you like them or not is different.) If a vendor uses, say, Burley, Cavendish, and Sweet Virginia in a few of their juices, does that mean a base? It most certainly does mean that. If a base is a shared element(s) that which other flavors or extracts are built upon, then once again, I don't know of any that don't do it in a couple juices, but most do it in more.

The case of Vermillion is that the Pokers, the Classics, and the Max blends (Classic and Kentucky mix) use the same base per line. That is what it is, and although they don't tell you which tobaccos are used (I don't like that when vendors don't publicly state that), at least you know if you don't like the Classic Blend base (which I don't, although the Classic Blend is only one juice in its own line), then you can stay away from the rest of them--if you don't like the Kentucky Premium Blend, then that about knocks off the majority of their tobaccos, save for 3 or 4.

There are only but so many tobaccos that are going to work for imparting tasty flavor for NETs--some sharing of tobaccos amongst juices is going to happen. Some vendors do it more than others, but damn near all do it in some respect.

*Of course Smooth and Peachy Criminal share more than just a base, they are essentially the same juice just with another ingredient added to Peachy. I think JG Blend and Jungle Juice share a base, but I don't know about Vecchio and some of the others.

p.s. I have yet to ask a vendor which juices contain the same elements and not get an answer. That is a little less specific than asking what tobaccos, what extraction or filtration is used.

Mr.Mann droppin' a knowledge bomb. I always love reading your posts, buddy. :)
 

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Have you had it before? It's really good. Did you get any other juices from them? The APV (apple, peach, vanilla) NET is really good, as is the Peach House blend.

Yeah, I had it before, but it was before I was on this type of hunt. It's been long enough and I have had so many NETs no that I think I may be able to see it in a different light (hopefully). I got that one, Natural House Tobacco and Hazel nut Tobacco. A fellow vaper and I are tag teaming so I got 3 and he got 3.
 

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Yeah, I had it before, but it was before I was on this type of hunt. It's been long enough and I have had so many NETs no that I think I may be able to see it in a different light (hopefully). I got that one, Natural House Tobacco and Hazel nut Tobacco. A fellow vaper and I are tag teaming so I got 3 and he got 3.

Hazel nut; that's another that I got that I really dug. I got 2 sample packs from them about 3 weeks ago. I need to reorder several in 30ml.

I think now that you're a more accustomed to NET that you'll see them in a different light.
 

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Mr.Mann droppin' a knowledge bomb. I always love reading your posts, buddy. :)

You're crazy, bro! :laugh:

I am merely conveying info from what I have learned from all my talks with vendors. Actually, as much as been stated (by me and others) about Don at BWB, I would say the most tight-lipped about their NETs are the people at W2V (they get a pass! LOL)--they tell you all you need to know, I guess, in their descriptions. Even though Don at BWB is mostly hush, he was gracious enough to answer these questions for me in his sub-forum:

Does anyone know whether Backo, 555e, and Virginia share the same tobacco base? I love vaping all three and noticing the subtle changes in Backo and Virginia, where 555e is similar but more bright, sparkly and colorful...

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Yes they do Mr. Mann and others as well on top of the original base
 

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Well it's true, it was a knowledge bomb. I didn't know a lot of the stuff in that post.

As I didn't know about what you told me in regards to what MM spoke about with Maha Ras, though I am still baffled by it! LOL. Really?! I still can't taste it! :confused: :lol: If I would've known that before trying it I probably would've passed on it. I am glad I didn't!
 

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As I didn't know about what you told me in regards to what MM spoke about with Maha Ras, though I am still baffled by it! LOL. Really?! I still can't taste it! :confused: :lol: If I would've known that before trying it I probably would've passed on it. I am glad I didn't!

I'm generally not a fan of that flavor, either. But damn, is Maha Ras good, or what? It's my favorite non-tobacco juice at the moment.
 

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What does Maha Ras taste like?

Nag Champa, berries and cream. At least that is how it tastes to me. :confused: I want to write a review on it but it is way too damn difficult to pinpoint anything. Strange. Very strange. But surprisingly good. The most intriguing juice I have ever vaped. I do like it.
 

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I'm generally not a fan of that flavor, either. But damn, is Maha Ras good, or what? It's my favorite non-tobacco juice at the moment.

What flavor is that in Maha Ras that you two are referring to?

I've been vaping Pluid and Maha Ras today (thanks to Shatner!). Never thought I'd say this, but I really like Pluid. What surprised me is the flavor isn't as strong or intense as I was expecting. It's strong, but not too strong. I think it helped that I vaped the odd flavors Blue Fairy and Jiggy yesterday, and the agressive tobacco Paris today. Maha I also really dig. It's unique-ness is up there with Jiggy, CI Cigar, and The Blond. I also combined some Maha and Pluid in a glass 3mm bottle and will let it steep a few days before trying.

So I have Blue Fairy, Jiggy, Pluid, Maha Ras, and Pluid Ras that I dedicated the neglected Dream (Fatty Clone) dripper and snake-head drip tip for, since I figure all these have flavors that tend to stick around in a JDS. It'll be fun to indulge in these for a day once a week or so. Breaking from tobaccos usually allow me to appreciate them more. I have a feeling that Huntman is gonna be crazy good when I end with it tonight.

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What does Maha Ras taste like?

Like a belly dancer's hooha. :laugh: Ummm.... Incense (in a good way and Mr.Mann's comment of Nag Champa is pretty spot on) and floral notes.

What flavor is that in Maha Ras that you two are referring to?

I've been vaping Pluid and Maha Ras today (thanks to Shatner!). Never thought I'd say this, but I really like Pluid. What surprised me is the flavor isn't as strong or intense as I was expecting. It's strong, but not too strong. I think it helped that I vaped the odd flavors Blue Fairy and Jiggy yesterday, and the agressive tobacco Paris today. Maha I also really dig. It's unique-ness is up there with Jiggy, CI Cigar, and The Blond. I also combined some Maha and Pluid in a glass 3mm bottle and will let it steep a few days before trying.

So I have Blue Fairy, Jiggy, Pluid, Maha Ras, and Pluid Ras that I dedicated the neglected Dream (Fatty Clone) dripper and snake-head drip tip for, since I figure all these have flavors that tend to stick around in a JDS. It'll be fun to indulge in these for a day once a week or so. Breaking from tobaccos usually allow me to appreciate them more. I have a feeling that Huntman is gonna be crazy good when I end with it tonight.

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MM claims that the main flavor is coconut. Pluid and MR 1:1 is an awesome combo! I think you'll like it.
 
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