Natural Tobaccos

[shatner]

Once again, a knowledge bomb from The Mann!

Oh, and an official thanks for the suggestion of VCV's Blue beard and Ahlusion's Gold Rising mixed 1:1. What a great vape.

 

[johni]

Single leaf extractions vs. multi-leaf (blends) don't always mean one is going to be more complex necessarily because certain strands like burley or fire-cured can be very deep on their own (think Blue Grass Burley, Louisville, or Fire Cured). It really just depends. In the case of HHV, in several of their juices they use blends on top of a base comprised of a blend (good luck trying to DIY some of HHV tobaccos, LOL). That is why some of their juices can be wildly complex, but the downside to blends like that is your not going to be able to discern a specific tobacco; the upside is of course a very unique juice. Blue Grass Burley and Lousiville are burley, period; but I doubt anyone would call those a simple juice. It all depends.

I think a good extraction is always the key, irrespective of whether it is a blend or a single leaf.

I have little to no expertise but I'd assume that single variety tobaccos with a more complex flavor are produced by a blend of tobaccos from within that variety. Maybe BGB and Louisville are made from a blend of Burleys?

 

[shatner]

I have little to no expertise but I'd assume that single variety tobaccos with a more complex flavor are produced by a blend of tobaccos from within that variety. Maybe BGB and Louisville are made from a blend of Burleys?

Who knows? Well, the cooks, of course. I think I'm preferring the single leaf extractions, but my preference change by the hour with NETs it seems.

What is QnJ's Proudest Monkey? I'm vaping on some of that right now. All I know is it's a NET with a hint of banana.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I have little to no expertise but I'd assume that single variety tobaccos with a more complex flavor are produced by a blend of tobaccos from within that variety. Maybe BGB and Louisville are made from a blend of Burleys?

True. I thought about this after my post.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I am going to look into this about varieties within a certain family. I am not certain, but it sure seems plausible.

 

[shatner]

I am going to look into this about varieties within a certain family. I am not certain, but it sure seems plausible.

I'd be curious as to what you discover. If you can will you share with the class, please?

 

[Mr.Mann]

I'd be curious as to what you discover. If you can will you share with the class, please?

We'll see. I am leaning more toward single family extraction more than just single leaf, but that is just a theory. w2v says Louisville is just "burley," but as johni points out, that could be more than one leaf but in the same family. GeJ does a few single-leaf extractions so I have some overdue convos with Nick and Wlad coming up.

 

[Chimps McGhee]

Congrats to both of y'all for finding a NET that ya' dig. HA is definitely a great representation of HHV. But just wait until you dig in to PB and 'Dipity!

PB is my current favorite from HHV in my limited experience. I am really looking forward to trying the sludge that I have steeping.

 

[dale1962]

Once again, a knowledge bomb from The Mann!

Oh, and an official thanks for the suggestion of VCV's Blue Beard and Ahlusion's Gold Rising mixed 1:1. What a great vape.

I'm trying out some of VCV's Burley Beard that was given to me it is interesting....

 

[shatner]

We'll see. I am leaning more toward single family extraction more than just single leaf, but that is just a theory. w2v says Louisville is just "burley," but as johni points out, that could be more than one leaf but in the same family. GeJ does a few single-leaf extractions so I have some overdue convos with Nick and Wlad coming up.

I'd definitely like to hear what you find. I'm not very versed in Tobacco. So there may be different strains of each family?

 

[shatner]

I'm trying out some of VCV's Burley Beard that was given to me it is interesting....

I've been impressed with all of VCV's tobaccos, fwiw. Burley Beard takes a second seat to Blue Beard, though. I've also had Mewlew modify White Beard: instead of custard, I requested vanilla. It's a totally different juice and I believe they're going to make it 'mainstream' and on the menu.

 

[VaporMizer]

I am going to look into this about varieties within a certain family. I am not certain, but it sure seems plausible.

It's usually a blend with smoking tobacco even if it's a single type (Burley Blend, Virginia Blend, Turkish Blend) There are even a wide variety of leaves with differing characteristics on different parts of the same tobacco plant. The exception would be those places that sell whole leaf tobacco...then a large amount of extract could be made from a single leaf.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I'd definitely like to hear what you find. I'm not very versed in Tobacco. So there may be different strains of each family?

Sure. Think about it like different kinds.

 

[Mr.Mann]

It's usually a blend with smoking tobacco even if it's a single type (Burley Blend, Virginia Blend, Turkish Blend) There are even a wide variety of leaves with differing characteristics on different parts of the same tobacco plant. The exception would be those whole leaf places...then a large amount of extract could be made from a single leaf.

Regions, climates, casings. My head is spinning.

VM, you are always a wonderful addition tot the convo.

 

[dale1962]

I've been impressed with all of VCV's tobaccos, fwiw. Burley Beard takes a second seat to Blue Beard, though. I've also had Mewlew modify White Beard: instead of custard, I requested vanilla. It's a totally different juice and I believe they're going to make it 'mainstream' and on the menu.

Yeah I'm gettin some kind of grassy tea taste out of Burley Beard....Blue beard I quess Blueberry tobacco??

 

[rdsok]

It's usually a blend with smoking tobacco even if it's a single type (Burley Blend, Virginia Blend, Turkish Blend) There are even a wide variety of leaves with differing characteristics on different parts of the same tobacco plant. The exception would be those places that sell whole leaf tobacco...then a large amount of extract could be made from a single leaf.

Regions, climates, casings. My head is spinning.

VM, you are always a wonderful addition tot the convo.

And... if I recall what I've read... even different parts of the same plant... ie top, middle or bottom leaves... have different aspects.

 

[Mr.Mann]

It's usually a blend with smoking tobacco even if it's a single type (Burley Blend, Virginia Blend, Turkish Blend) There are even a wide variety of leaves with differing characteristics on different parts of the same tobacco plant. The exception would be those places that sell whole leaf tobacco...then a large amount of extract could be made from a single leaf.

I would think the same applies to extracting NETs, but once again, I am not certain with those juices.

And... if I recall what I've read... even different parts of the same plant... ie top, middle or bottom leaves... have different aspects.

Yes,

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yeah I'm gettin some kind of grassy tea taste out of Burley Beard....Blue beard I quess Blueberry tobacco??

Actually it's honey cured.

 

[shatner]

Yeah I'm gettin some kind of grassy tea taste out of Burley Beard....Blue beard I quess Blueberry tobacco??

It's a Honey cured Virginia tobacco with essence of blue and blackberry. It's insanely delicious. Especially when it has a bit of age on it. But it's also great fresh.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Shatner, I hear you on being not very versed in tobacco. Most of what I have learned has come from vaping NETs. I am sure some would find this to be backwards, but it is how it is. It is funny though that even though my tobacco fascination came from vaping more so than smoking, I do find myself gravitating toward certain tobacco. For me, tobacco is like how many people got into electronics via vaping.