Natural Tobaccos

[rdsok]

Those two (Smooth C and Desperado) need 6-8 weeks of steeping. Really.

I think you may have mistaken me with someone that actually has patience...

Seriously though, most of the e-juices I do like, have good flavor within a week or two, at least for me... I do know they can/will develop further which only makes them better in most cases. These two will have two weeks steep, so I should get a decent idea of what they taste like.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I think you may have mistaken me with someone that actually has patience...

Seriously though, most of the e-juices I do like, have good flavor within a week or two, at least for me... I do know they can/will develop further which only makes them better in most cases. These two will have two weeks steep, so I should get a decent idea of what they taste like.

Honestly, two weeks may not give you an idea (it didn't with me). I know that it seems like it might (makes sense), but in all of my tasting, I put SC up there with one of the most transformed via extended steeping. That said, some really like it fresh; though I don't think any that like it fresh would dislike it from the extended steep. If you truly dislike it after 2 weeks, the steeping will be inevitable unless you trade/sell it, which I unfortunately did--luckily I had kept a sample which revealed the error in my ways (several weeks later).

 

[johni]

If I couldn't steep Smooth Criminal for at least 6 weeks, I wouldn't buy it.

 

[Dusty_D]

I finally got around to testing 4 of Scarfy's extractions. Here are my notes on them:

Burley Caven: Burley, aged cavendish, and a honey almond flavoring. All from the tobacco.
My notes: Very nice medium bodied vape that had some familiar notes to some of the other Net's I've tried. Slightly nutty tobacco flavour. 3 stars.

Carmen RYO: Mostly-Virginia cigarette tobacco with a little burley and chocolate flavor
My notes: Medium bodied tobacco that had a sweeter tone on the first hit, and then went away leaving a tobacco vape that was "middle of the road" for me. 3 stars.

Celestial: Celestial is a Ramon Allones Celestiales cuban cigar
My notes: Slightly earthy, cigar like tones with a spicy undertone. The tobacco is clean and strong. A very nice vape. 4 stars.

St. James Flake: A sumptuous blend of Virginias and Perique, this big, bold British style flake incorporates a generous proportion of St. James Parish, LA perique.
My notes: A dark, relatively unsweet strong tobacco base. Hint of something else going on. Cannot nail the other flavour. Good Throat Hit. Almost pipe'ish. 3.5 stars.

Keep in mind that I tested these yesterday, and got the descriptions from Scarfy a few minutes ago, so some of my notes may have redundant information, already in the description of the juices.

 

[Mr.Mann]

"Amazing juice. Recommended with angels and a fanfare of heavenly trumpets," since this is from "Mr.Tobacco" himself, a.k.a. Vapenstein, still makes me scratch my head and makes me feel that there is something wrong with my palate

You also have to take into account what was available at the time of that review. I am not sure if he would quite feel that way about it now, but back then it probably was really good.

 

[Bronze]

Is there any NET out there with a similar profile to Patriot? It seems to be my favorite of the 20 or so I've tried and no others are like it. What tobaccos does it contain? Not looking for exactly the same thing, just want to explore more in that flavor profile.

Try Habana Daydream from Quicknic. I find both to be straight up tobacco yet pleasant.

 

[Dan33]

I wonder if there is a juice out there that replicates the flavor of Partagas cigars.

 

[scarf-ace]

I wonder if there is a juice out there that replicates the flavor of Partagas cigars.

There probably is. Here's one which is based on a Cohiba.

$25 for 10mls is a bit rich for me. I could buy a Cohiba for that much and make my own.

 

[rdsok]

Honestly, two weeks may not give you an idea (it didn't with me). I know that it seems like it might (makes sense), but in all of my tasting, I put SC up there with one of the most transformed via extended steeping. That said, some really like it fresh; though I don't think any that like it fresh would dislike it from the extended steep. If you truly dislike it after 2 weeks, the steeping will be inevitable unless you trade/sell it, which I unfortunately did--luckily I had kept a sample which revealed the error in my ways (several weeks later).

I actually, no matter how I joke about it.... have no issue steeping for a while, but where is the fun in admitting that..

While I did taste test almost all of the NET's I've gotten, usually out of the mailbox... I do it as much to see how a juice develops over time. With few exceptions, I still have most of the original's I purchased from the 1st of March still. The exceptions are the 2-3 that had latakia in them which I've PIF'd to a friend that I thought would enjoy them.

 

[Bronze]

There probably is. Here's one which is based on a Cohiba.

$25 for 10mls is a bit rich for me. I could buy a Cohiba for that much and make my own.

I'm sure you could!!!

Still vapin on that nougat Scarfy.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I actually, no matter how I joke about it.... have no issue steeping for a while, but where is the fun in admitting that..

While I did taste test almost all of the NET's I've gotten, usually out of the mailbox... I do it as much to see how a juice develops over time. With few exceptions, I still have most of the original's I purchased from the 1st of March still. The exceptions are the 2-3 that had latakia in them which I've PIF'd to a friend that I thought would enjoy them.

I should've known, but I felt myself taking a stroll down memory lane on that specific juice. I did NOT see how that juice could or would get, not only better but, incredibly satisfying. I see so many talk about juices that I know steep into a different body and I always wonder if they really gave 'em time. Hell, Bronze sat on VB for over half a year, but he gave it time. When I see people talk about Prime 15 I wonder if they gave it time (even though I like it better unsteeped).

 

[Dan33]

When I see people talk about Prime 15 I wonder if they gave it time (even though I like it better unsteeped).

I have some Prime 15. What does it transform into over time? It is very a distinctive juice with a strong graham cracker vanilla taste, in my opinion.

 

[Dan33]

When I see people talk about Prime 15 I wonder if they gave it time (even though I like it better unsteeped).

No related to Prime 15, but speaking of Halo's tobacco line, have you ever mixed Longhorn with Turkish Tobacco? I have not tried it yet, but I think both flavors compliment each other nicely. I would be nice if Turkish would have been stronger, though.

 

[AnthonyB]

I am so glad to hear it's not me that has times where I am finding the GEJ juices and its perplexing because when I get the full taste of them they are just divine. I get all the nuances and overtones, can taste the various tobaccos in a unified whole. Other times, I get a one dimensional flavour and I am left trying different devices to get the taste back. Knowing that you are getting the full sublime flavour on dual coils is encouraging me more and more to try making one. I want to build one on my Igo-L.

I have a basic question to ask about dual coils in this regard, just a fundamental set up question. Do you guys tend to do a double loop with one piece of wire or do you hook two separate pieces of wire to the posts? I tried it with two separate pieces of wire and one of them didn't fire. There doesn't seem to be a good dual coil manual on Youtube for the Igo-L.

I have always had a somewhat of a hard time finding the flavor in GeJ liquids. Patriot is by far the most consistent but even Patriot has its moments of obscurity for me. Recently I purchased a trident dripping atomizer and I'm running it with dual coils at .25-.3 ohms and this has been revolutionary for my vaping. Its like tasting certain juices for the first time. I have especially noticed this with GeJ. All the GeJ flavors I try in this set up have come to life. I think a big part is the alarming rate at which the Juice is being vaporized. More juice be vaporized quicker equates to stronger fuller flavor. I have been vaping Natural Perique the last two days and loving it where as before it was good but the flavor was a little faint for me. I havent touched another tank, atty, genny or any JDS device since getting the trident a week ago.

 

[AnthonyB]

I will definitely try that on my AGA T2 Johni. My AGA T2 is currently running at 2.0 ohms so I will remove a loop or two and get it down to 1.0-1.2 ohms. Not thrilled to get it sub-ohms. As much as I can understand the value in sub-ohms I much prefer a Vamo or Provari where I can occasionally check the ohms and make sure they haven't fluctuated too much.

You guys having trouble finding the flavor in Wild Turkey need to try it in a genny if you have one. I've run about 3 tanks through an AGA T2, .8 ohm coil on solid mesh wick. This setup creates huge clouds and great flavor. Although subtle, it is very good!

 

[y cherry y]

I think you may have mistaken me with someone that actually has patience...

Seriously though, most of the e-juices I do like, have good flavor within a week or two, at least for me... I do know they can/will develop further which only makes them better in most cases. These two will have two weeks steep, so I should get a decent idea of what they taste like.

Yeah, I liked SC right away. It tasted like sweet cream stirred into honey with nutmeg and butter. Then suddenly it grossed me out and I set it aside. Two months later it became a monster -- dry, husky tobacco with a sweet caramel component. Now I pretty much buy a big bottle every month, so they'll mature at roughly the pace I vape them. Desperado needs even longer!

 

[RPadTV]

Mmmmm.... Ahlusion's Sahara Blend XPress and a pot of Costa Rica coffee is such a wonderful combination. There's nothing better in the morning than a nice NET and a cup of fine coffee.

If you like 'artisan' coffee, a buddy of mine is a coffee roaster. In my most non-biased opinion he acquires some of the best beans and his roasting technique is perfect for each different region of coffee bean he has. West Coast Roasting Company - Fine Coffee Roasters. You can't go wrong with any of the options. /shameless plug for a friend.

I just ordered some of the Sumatra and am looking forward to it. The first mail from my new place should be this and a bunch of Ahlusion juices. Now I need to find a good NET match for this coffee.

 

[TheCatsPajamas]

I am so glad to hear it's not me that has times where I am finding the GEJ juices and its perplexing because when I get the full taste of them they are just divine. I get all the nuances and overtones, can taste the various tobaccos in a unified whole. Other times, I get a one dimensional flavour and I am left trying different devices to get the taste back. Knowing that you are getting the full sublime flavour on dual coils is encouraging me more and more to try making one. I want to build one on my Igo-L.

I have a basic question to ask about dual coils in this regard, just a fundamental set up question. Do you guys tend to do a double loop with one piece of wire or do you hook two separate pieces of wire to the posts? I tried it with two separate pieces of wire and one of them didn't fire. There doesn't seem to be a good dual coil manual on Youtube for the Igo-L.

I have not figured out a way to set up the IGO-l with dual coils yet. I tried. But with a nimbus or a trident it is very easy to wrap 2 separate coils due to the 3 posts. I have my IGO-l set up single coil at .5ohms and my Trident with dual coils at .2ohms. Both are great!


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[AnthonyB]

It can definitely be done and based on the Youtube videos out there it can be done very fast. One Youtube user eager to show his skills did a dual coil and timed it to less than 4 minutes build time and he did it with separate wires. It was done on two separate wires just connected to the posts individually. The Igo-L is very easy to work with. I don't see why 2 separate wires isn't possible. I just haven't been able to manage it on my first attempt and now I am loathe to disassemble my current set up because it works so well.

PS: I had a bit of an experiment and lightly touched some Kanthal wire to the two posts which already has a wire connected. It got hot so it definitely does work with two separate wires. Maybe the two separate wires short each other out somehow in between the screws if they cross over or if the loose ends touch each other.

I have not figured out a way to set up the IGO-l with dual coils yet. I tried. But with a nimbus or a trident it is very easy to wrap 2 separate coils due to the 3 posts. I have my IGO-l set up single coil at .5ohms and my Trident with dual coils at .2ohms. Both are great!


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[chohan]

Lousville was divine. I prefer this burley (and I think it's burley, forgive my lack of real education on tobacco leaves) over all others, and that includes ahlusions Blue Grass Burley, which, while is an amazing juice, lacks the authentic analog like grassy notes of Want2Vape. Like it's namesake, ahlusion BGB is artful, fancy, bold and rich, flavoursome to the point that it tastes like someone mulched up grass clippings from a lawn and extracted a juice out of it. Both juices have hit all the right notes and have their place, but just in my own subjective taste, Want2Vape's Lousville is the down to Earth, European short film to ahlusions Hollywood blockbuster fictionalised storyline. I love a good hollywood blockbuster and the suspension of reality, but sometimes I want to taste some reality, something familiar and close to home which I can relate to. Lousville (and all the Want2Vape NET juices mentioned here) do that for me.

Louisville was one of the very first nets I tried and lately has become a favorite. Your description of it is right on imo. I'm not sure if I enjoy it more than BGB since I ran out of that one a while back although I have some on the way with my recent Ahlusion order. I look forward to comparing them.

My Louisville is around 6 months steeped and didn't get much attention due to it's talent for gunking up coils. It's only since I started using the Igo-l that this becomes a non-issue since access to the coil for dry-burning is so easy. Louisville definitely packs some flavor and London is no slouch either.