Natural Tobaccos

[EleanorR]

Edited: Wait, I made an error. You are talking about Bees Nees, I am talking about Sahara Blend! I don't know how to use strike out on the edit function.

When you hit "Reply with Quote," go to the bottom of the reply box and you'll see a tab, "Go Advanced." Hit that tab, then highlight the portion of text you want to strike through and click on the little button on top of the reply box (there are three rows of little buttons at the top; the strike through button is on the third row, third from the right). That button looks like this: S

 

[johni]

Whoever it was that wanted to know about how to make NETs work in cartos, PM me and I'll give you some info. (Not going back to look up the post).

Tons of juices on hand to try and I'm having a bad taste bud day! That stinks.

 

[billherbst]

Looking closer at CravinVapes site, I found this info about their tobacco extracts. Tobacco Extracts - CravinVapes E-cigs & E-liquid Looks like they use alcohol in their extraction and a filtration process they are proud of. They list what tobacco is used in each NET, which deserves a huge kudos in my opinion.

Sometimes NETs are flavored by adding flavor extracts/concentrates along with the tobacco extract when mixing the juice. Sometimes flavors are added during the extraction, as Ahlusion does by adding vanilla beans or cherries to the tobacco and extracting together. And sometimes the flavor is from a cased tobacco (Cavendish) like Organic Vanilla Pipe from CV (and most HHV NETs I believe).

All three methods can produce a great flavored NET. When a vendor says which method they use, I appreciate that. Of course, the most important thing is the end product, the final result, and I believe a vendor should use any method, or combination of methods, they feel is best to produce the product they are going for.

So CravinVapes used an organic vanilla Cavendish for Organic Vanilla Pipe. The end result was, to my initial impressions, a vape that played like vanilla cigarette, even though pipe tobacco was used. That observation comes from a guy who has never smoked a pipe in my life though. Maybe it does taste like pipe tobacco. My experience with pipe flavor is just based on the much more complex pipe vapes I've had.

It doesn't change my first impressions though. The lack of pipe-ness to me is a result of my limited experience, a very mild tobacco used, or the extraction and/or filtration process. Either way, now knowing how and what is used to make that juice may increase my appreciation for OrgVanPipe as I vape it. Or maybe it will always just feel like a vanilla cig to me.

Jerms,

It's not just you.

During CravinVapes sale in March, I ordered 6ml sample bottles of five of CV's NET blends, including Organic Vanilla Pipe. Despite the vendor's sincere good intentions---NETs, mixed-to-order juices, informative disclosure, and reasonable prices---I found all five to be uniformly undistinguished. OrgVanPipe tasted nothing like any pipe tobacco I smoked way back when, and bore no resemblance to any good NET Pipe blend e-liquid I've vaped.

Re-sampling all five CravinVapes NETs again today after a two-month steep re-confirms my initial reaction. In fairness, I don't feel that these juices are dreadful. As I wrote above, they are simply undistinguished.

I now have five different "tiers" for NET vendors. The First (top) Tier includes Ahlusion, GeJ, HHV, MOV (also House of Liquid, but only by reputation on this thread, since I haven't vaped any of their juices). Second Tier includes QuickNicJuice, Want2Vape, and VapeRite. For me, CravinVapes is at best Third Tier and maybe Fourth.

I'm afraid that the top tier NET vendors plus my own and Scarfy's home-brewed NET macerations have really spoiled me for anything less.

 

[RPadTV]

Man, moving sucks. Thankfully Tez's Smokin' Cherries helped make things a bit better.

In more recent news, I've been vaping MVJ's Rogue RY4 and my experience has been the similar to the one I had with MVJ's Bangin' Butterscotch. There's a general blandness to the juice and I'm not really enjoying it. It's not offensive; just a flaccid vape. GeJ GJ4 and MOV Full Virginia Flake are much, much better NET RY4s. Billherbst's fine RY4s kick the crap out of MVJ's.

Thankfully, the bottle (from luce's stash) is small...though I'll probably just PIF it to someone at a local vape shop.

 

[Evil Speakers]

GeJ GJ4 and MOV Full Virginia Flake are much, much better NET RY4s. Billherbst's fine RY4s kick the crap out of MVJ's.

I really like the Full Virginia Flake, it's my favorite sweet tobacco so far. Haven't had GJ4 yet, how do they compare?

 

[billherbst]

Been vaping some ouR whY qu4tro from QnJ all day. I guess I need to give QnJ yet another plug. I'm not an RY4 fan. I've tried several of them and didn't care for any of them...as in, not at all! I'm not suggesting I'm grooving on QnJ's NET version of RY4, but I have been vaping it all day. That is tons more than I can say about any other RY4 I've tried. The flavoring is well balanced and, again, the NET base really shines through as it does on all QnJ's flavored NETS. I sampled ouR whY qu4tro a long time ago and thought the same then as I do now. It is readily apparent that QnJ makes a whole lot of quality smoke juices. One doesn't have to necessarily like a particular flavor profile, but he can state that it is a well-made juice.

Bronze (and all),

The problem I have with ouR whY qu4tro is that it's like Beaujolais wine---best vaped fresh. When I first got my bottle of ouR whY qu4tro, it was absolutely astonishing! Vibrant flavors in an exquisite mix---it darn near knocked my socks off. (I have a little experience with RY4s and know a great Custom RY4 when I taste one.)

Unfortunately, steeping has diminished it significantly, for me at least. The vibrant component flavors have calmed and melded. And while that may sometimes be a good thing, with ouR whY qu4tro it's not. Don't get me wrong: I still think it's a lovely juice, a good Custom RY4, and a nice NET blend. But the thrill is gone. When fresh, it killed every other NET-based RY4 I'd ever vaped (including my own). Now, however, it's no longer the pacesetting thoroughbred it was in that first quarter mile and has faded back toward the middle of the pack.

Edit: I just atty-dripped some ouR whY qu4tro on a clean coil, and it's better. Still doesn't have all the crystalline potency it delivered when fresh, but it obviously killed the carto I had it loaded into (I keep 100 RY4s on my desk, all loaded into cartos, for quickie comparison-vaping---that's part of my "job" on the RY4 thread). Like so many NETs, ouR whY appears to be carto-unfriendly. I'll pitch that carto and reload ouR whY into an Ultimate CE2 Clearo. That should help for awhile, at least. Even at 80% of what it was when fresh, it's still a great juice!

 

[y cherry y]

Spent a nice afternoon hanging at the Ahlusion cafe with Mr. Mann, Wlad and a few other vapers. Nice conversation and great juice. We'll have to do it again someday.

 

[Jerms]

Ordered this GG clone for $23 including shipping.

http://.........blogspot.com/2013/05/blowout-kts-telescopic-storm-2599.html?m=0

Most importantly, it's a back-up mod which I've gone too long without having. Also, my first mechanical. I love how affordable these new toys are. Also picked up a couple new drippers from EmpireMods; the A6 and SS RDA with a new design.

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[EleanorR]

Spent a nice afternoon hanging at the Ahlusion cafe with Mr. Mann, Wlad and a few other vapers. Nice conversation and great juice. We'll have to do it again someday.

 

[johni]

Ordered this GG clone for $23 including shipping.

http://.........blogspot.com/2013/05/blowout-kts-telescopic-storm-2599.html?m=0

Most importantly, it's a back-up mod which I've gone too long without having. Also, my first mechanical. I love how affordable these new toys are. Also picked up a couple new drippers from EmpireMods; the A6 and SS RDA with a new design.

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You're going to love some of the things you can do with coils that your Vamo won't fire!

 

[RPadTV]

I really like the Full Virginia Flake, it's my favorite sweet tobacco so far. Haven't had GJ4 yet, how do they compare?

GJ4 has a bigger tobacco taste to me. I prefer it a bit more than Full Virginia Flake. NETizens that haven't tried a NET RY4 will probably be happier with GJ4. RY4 fans that haven't tried a NET will likely prefer FVF; it's more approachable and has a dessert-type sweetness.

 

[Jerms]

You're going to love some of the things you can do with coils that your Vamo won't fire!

I'm sure I will! I need to research mechanicals a bit, but quick question, do I need to buy a fuse, like the shortstop or 2 cents?

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[y cherry y]

I'm sure I will! I need to research mechanicals a bit, but quick question, do I need to buy a fuse, like the shortstop or 2 cents?

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Either that or buy protected batteries, which have the protection circuitry built in.

 

[Jerms]

Either that or buy protected batteries, which have the protection circuitry built in.

Okay, I just have IMR batts so I'll get a fuse too.

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[johni]

Not really unless you want to do crazy coils that draw super high amps. Do use decent quality protected batteries like AW IMR, or Panasonic, etc

I've had no problems with AW IMRs, no fuse.

 

[Jerms]

Not really unless you want to do crazy coils that draw super high amps. Do use decent quality protected batteries like AW IMR, or Panasonic, etc

I've had no problems with AW IMRs, no fuse.

I have a couple Panasonic CGR650CHs coming, which I think are IMR and protected, but I need to read more about that. The AW batts I have are IMR but not protected.

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[shatner]

Spent a nice afternoon hanging at the Ahlusion cafe with Mr. Mann, Wlad and a few other vapers. Nice conversation and great juice. We'll have to do it again someday.

I'm going to have to come visit your city. I've always been enamored with Detroit. Not because it's ugly. I find abandoned things very beautiful. I really want to get up there, but not impose at the same time. lol

 

[y cherry y]

I have a couple Panasonic CGR650CHs coming, which I think are IMR and protected, but I need to read more about that. The AW batts I have are IMR but not protected.

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The CH's are not protected. Like the AW's, they're "safe chemistry," meaning that even if there's a thermal event and they vent, they won't explode. Protected batteries have a fuse mechanism built in, so if that happens the fuse trips and there is no venting. Which is the function the shortstop/2-cent fuse provides in the unprotected battery. Most people never have problems with AW-IMR's -- or, for that matter, with scary no-name batteries -- but the fuse eliminates the possibility entirely.

 

[Evil Speakers]

GJ4 has a bigger tobacco taste to me. I prefer it a bit more than Full Virginia Flake. NETizens that haven't tried a NET RY4 will probably be happier with GJ4. RY4 fans that haven't tried a NET will likely prefer FVF; it's more approachable and has a dessert-type sweetness.

Thanks... sounds like I might like GJ4 better. I'll add it to my massive list of juices I want to try.

 

[Mr.Mann]

YCY, I am really liking this AB N^o.2. I guess Wlad doesn't know me like he thought?! LOL. "Mann, you're not going to like that!" hahahahaha. It's really a spectacular take on a disaster--why didn't you make me get a 30 mL? Man, please let me know when you are going back.