NatureBoy's GGTS #399
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You dont want to read my post carefully Nature my friend. Maybe you think that I am overreacting but its ok.
You do come off as being defensive.. and you're saying you're going to charge even more for the magnets after I told you they can be bought for much less than what you pay.
It's not worth my effort to try and convince you otherwise, your mind's already made up. You feel the idea of using magnets is worthy of financial recognition and charging a premium for, and that is your prerogative.
I however see it differently, and will pursue the more logically affordable alternative.
It wasn't meant to be a slam on you or your creativity. It's just my nature to question things that don't make sense to me, and when I know something of equal value can be had for less, I tend to go that way.
Please don't let this give you the impression that I don't appreciate the work you've done and the amount of time and creativity that has gone into these products. Far from it. If I wasn't happy with my GGTS I would have sold it by now. Can't say I'm as impressed with CS as others are, but as I've said, I'll learn to live with a less than perfect product. It was bound to get dinged up anyway with my clumsy grip.
Anyway, if you want to charge $25 for 3 little ring magnets, all the power to ya man. But dont be surprised if you see some being offered for a fraction of that price in the near future. Peace brother.
It's not worth my effort to try and convince you otherwise, your mind's already made up. You feel the idea of using magnets is worthy of financial recognition and charging a premium for, and that is your prerogative.
I however see it differently, and will pursue the more logically affordable alternative.
It wasn't meant to be a slam on you or your creativity. It's just my nature to question things that don't make sense to me, and when I know something of equal value can be had for less, I tend to go that way.
Please don't let this give you the impression that I don't appreciate the work you've done and the amount of time and creativity that has gone into these products. Far from it. If I wasn't happy with my GGTS I would have sold it by now. Can't say I'm as impressed with CS as others are, but as I've said, I'll learn to live with a less than perfect product. It was bound to get dinged up anyway with my clumsy grip.
Anyway, if you want to charge $25 for 3 little ring magnets, all the power to ya man. But dont be surprised if you see some being offered for a fraction of that price in the near future. Peace brother.
Lets say that I buy the magnets you say Nature with 0,2 per magnet. Thats a total cost of 0,6. Of course I will make a special order so the cost will not be at 0,6 but maybe at 1 euros. Sellers have to make a progit at least 4 euros. I think its a very small amount but let say its ok. Shipping is 7 euros if I know well. If I dont make any money then the cost is already 12 euros, that is 16 dollars. If I make 2 euros (that is 3 dollars) we are at 19 already.
As you see the cost is not on magnets, thats why I told you to read my post carefully Nature.
As you see the cost is not on magnets, thats why I told you to read my post carefully Nature.
Yes, Emonty, those too. I also forgot the paypal fees and the courier to send them to Lisa. Thats why sometimes we get confused with costs and we think that something is expensive
Yes, Emonty, those too. I also forgot the paypal fees and the courier to send them to Lisa. Thats why sometimes we get confused with costs and we think that something is expensive
and most important you forget the money you should get for by inventing this
riceless!!! and......we don't need to buy another spring anymore for the rest of our entire life......you should charge at least $50 for this!!!!!
and most important you forget the money you should get for by inventing this
you should charge at least $50 for this!!!!!
I agree again. Those things had to be sold very expensive because they never die.
As for my earn, its a big zero. Lisa and Rob can confirm this. I sold the magnets to them at exactly my cost only to please you and nothing else.
Only at cost!!! Who else has done this? I have done it in past too with the button update if you remember Emonty. But new people dont know the GG history and I understand them totally
Imeo: you are not a businessman (in a good way). If you had the whole button assembled with the magnets you could double the price on each component and you would not disclose information till after the purchase. But you are a good man...i know!
yes there worth every penny just when you need them there here for ya ... i think there worth there weight in gold imeo dont change a thing with them .. oh i love the new rounded switch button your prices are fine imeo .. its like insurance you hate to pay for something you never use but when you need it you have it .... just my thoughts on this matter imeo keep up the great work my friend keep making the best mods known to man thank you lawnman3 magnets / switches / springs oh my lolThanks Port my friend. Yes I am a good guy and many old friends here already know that. But maybe its time to get paid for all I have done for vaping world. I totally changed the way that people smoke by making wireless e-cigs, AFS, HV atomizers, locking buttons, fuses and so many other things that I dont remember right now, so I feel a little strange when new people like Nature dont understand me. Of course its not his fault at all and he tried to make his point but I just feel that I had to have a little different confrontation
But maybe its time to stop this conversation, we are not going anywhere and I also dont feel well by discussing this.
Lets say something better like the new avatar of Emonty. We have to put it on every smoking store so people will see what they will lose by smoking real cigarretes
thanks a lot my good friend law. Yes just like insurances. I know this stuff better than anyone. Most people complain to me about the money they pay for "nothing" (as they always say) but when the accident happens they phone me every 1 hour asking for help. Thats the people's nature, I do the same sometimes. We are all the same in a way buddy
Thanks Port my friend. Yes I am a good guy and many old friends here already know that. But maybe its time to get paid for all I have done for vaping world. I totally changed the way that people smoke by making wireless e-cigs, AFS, HV atomizers, locking buttons, fuses and so many other things that I dont remember right now, so I feel a little strange when new people like Nature dont understand me. Of course its not his fault at all and he tried to make his point but I just feel that I had to have a little different confrontation
But maybe its time to stop this conversation, we are not going anywhere and I also dont feel well by discussing this.
Lets say something better like the new avatar of Emonty. We have to put it on every smoking store so people will see what they will lose by smoking real cigarretes
yes, but it has a copyright
yes, but it has a copyright
Nhaler said that he has the copyright of my GG old button too
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I too was surprised at the price of the magnets initially and Imeo and I had a discussion about the supply of them.
These are NOT standard magnets that you can buy by the thousand from china - they are made to special dimensions and would still be costly when ordered in large quantities from China. This would entail a large initial outlay, customs charges, large shipping and everything else associated.
Imeo has made nothing from this batch of magnets. Yes - he wanted you to have them so badly that he's not making any profit AT ALL.
Once you take my business costs into account, I've pretty much made pennies per magnet. We're in this business primarily for the love of vaping and to get the best products out to the people who need them. I have to say that the constant moans about the cost of things are beginning to really make me wonder why we bother at all.
Most people have absolutely no idea about the costs associated with a business of this nature and nothing anyone can tell them will persuade them.
Sorry about the rant, but this is a stressful business, and I get upset when it seems like people think we are fleecing them for our own gain or something. I'm about to have my house reposessed - that's how rich this business is making me..........
These are NOT standard magnets that you can buy by the thousand from china - they are made to special dimensions and would still be costly when ordered in large quantities from China. This would entail a large initial outlay, customs charges, large shipping and everything else associated.
Imeo has made nothing from this batch of magnets. Yes - he wanted you to have them so badly that he's not making any profit AT ALL.
Once you take my business costs into account, I've pretty much made pennies per magnet. We're in this business primarily for the love of vaping and to get the best products out to the people who need them. I have to say that the constant moans about the cost of things are beginning to really make me wonder why we bother at all.
Most people have absolutely no idea about the costs associated with a business of this nature and nothing anyone can tell them will persuade them.
Sorry about the rant, but this is a stressful business, and I get upset when it seems like people think we are fleecing them for our own gain or something. I'm about to have my house reposessed - that's how rich this business is making me..........
As I've already said, I got my magnets and they fit perfectly. They cost me pennies and they're available in the US.
I didn't realize Imeo was having them custom made. Now that I know, I can understand why they are the price they are. In any case, I have found a suitable alternative for a fraction of his price.
Anyway, feel free to PM me if you want to know where I got them if you'd like to pass the savings onto your customers.
I didn't realize Imeo was having them custom made. Now that I know, I can understand why they are the price they are. In any case, I have found a suitable alternative for a fraction of his price.
Anyway, feel free to PM me if you want to know where I got them if you'd like to pass the savings onto your customers.
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