Aluminum GGTS problem. Atties are not firing!

[Psychomaster]

Psycho....PM your mailing addy and I'll send you the o-rings

I appreciate the offer! I will pm you my addy, but you need to pm me where to pay for them (shipping at least, but preferably the whole cost, via paypal is best for me). I like a helping hand, but I have my (admittedly small) pride. I went to COV, but didn't see them, so maybe they were at a different section of the site.

 

[Zoranth]

They are included in the o-ring set for the AVS on COV:

GG O Ring Replacements for AVS

Unfortunately, they are not in stock

I appreciate the offer! I will pm you my addy, but you need to pm me where to pay for them (shipping at least, but preferably the whole cost, via paypal is best for me). I like a helping hand, but I have my (admittedly small) pride. I went to COV, but didn't see them, so maybe they were at a different section of the site.

 

[smitty727]

I feel your pain Psycho. I've had a few problems along the way also and when the GG ain't working there's just nothing else that will satisfy. I'm sure the o-rings could be bought for pennies if you could just find the right size. I got a set from COV but of course that takes about a week if they're in stock and a week is forever when the GG ain't working.

Okay, I tried this and it didn't do anything different. I got a little discouraged and wondered if there was something wrong with my GG, so I took it completely apart. Where the center pin is, a broken o-ring popped out when I tried to put it back together. It is literally the tiniest o-ring I have ever seen! I think there was two, but one of them went flying, the other is "snapped". The center post went in too smoothly and now comes out super easy. Tried the GG again and thought maybe it would work. No dice. I am a little discouraged, but I won't give up hope, since these eGo's aren't satisfying me anymore. I am vaping 0 nicotine right now, so I can hopefully stop vaping and sell my GG, but I don't know if that will happen.

 

[buGG]

psycho, are you talking about the two battery plunger o-rings pictured in here in the wiki?

i removed a set of these from GGTS and it still works. i think their main function is for stabilizing that floating center pin, holding it in position and giving it enough resistance to stay put when it's set. just a theory, but the TS will indeed work without them. so i'm thinking if it's these o-rings you're talking about then maybe that's not the culprit.

i'd suggest taking the offer for the replacement o-rings, because they're helpful to have and otherwise hard to come by, but at the same time think about what else might be going on here. you may be better off with a new connector piece, which would include the internal o-rings. if you are getting current from the tongue tingling at the top of the connector and your attys are all in working order on the eGo, it's got to be something that happens between these two otherwise fully functioning parts. is it possible that a pice of the floating center pin broke off or became dislodged when it fell? does anything other than the absent o-rings seem out of place or abnormal about the adapter? when you fire the button, is there any warmth at or near the button and/or at the atty? is there a fifth atty you could try? do you happen to have any external adapters like a 510-901 (not the re-threader), or 510 extension that you could put on first before you attach your atomizer? is it absolutely nothing, no glow, no sizzle, no warmth, nothing at all that occurs when you attach these atomizers? and are you absolutely sure that you are getting a tingle, like the kind you get when you put your tongue on a 9 Volt battery, when you have the TS fully assembled without the atty attached?

i'm sure imeo, or someone will get you squared away eventually, but just curious in the meantime if any of these things could be resolved to get you back on track now.

 

[Zoranth]

Do me a favor and check something. Remove the collector tank off of the GGTS. Screw an Atty onto the thread and manually push the center post in as far as it can go. Now, using a multimeter, check the resistance between the center post (Item 2) and the collection tank - bottom (Item 8). just want to do this to make sure that the atty and the top half of the GGTS is getting a good connection.

 

[Para]

I appreciate the offer! I will pm you my addy, but you need to pm me where to pay for them (shipping at least, but preferably the whole cost, via paypal is best for me). I like a helping hand, but I have my (admittedly small) pride. I went to COV, but didn't see them, so maybe they were at a different section of the site.

You owe me nothing......payment is give someone else a hand down the road

 

[dspin]

Well, whatever the problem is, it will be interesting to hear the solution.

 

[imeothanasis]

Its more than obvious that ByGG is right. If the tongue check is ok that means that GG brings current but the atomizer is false. It happens when atomizer is ready to die because its center pin will very soon meet its threads because the silicom rubber is almost damaged.

Sometimes it happens because battery is ready to die. The pcb maybe its damaged. So put a new atomizer and screw slowly the telescope and at the same time put atomizer near your ear. When you hear that atomizer is working just stop. Then put on another mod the atomizer and it will work for sure.

 

[UKtarget]

This is a strange one indeed but i feel Imeo could be right about the batteries with the GG being a fully mechanical mod its hard to see what can go wrong.
Id like to see how this one goes as well

 

[Psychomaster]

Thanks for all the help and suggestions guy's, I will definitely have to check out the GG when I am not so exhausted. I just got back from work, so it might be a few hours.

P.S. I would do that Zoranth, but I don't have a multimeter.

 

[Psychomaster]

psycho, are you talking about the two battery plunger o-rings pictured in here in the wiki?

i removed a set of these from GGTS and it still works. i think their main function is for stabilizing that floating center pin, holding it in position and giving it enough resistance to stay put when it's set. just a theory, but the TS will indeed work without them. so i'm thinking if it's these o-rings you're talking about then maybe that's not the culprit.

i'd suggest taking the offer for the replacement o-rings, because they're helpful to have and otherwise hard to come by, but at the same time think about what else might be going on here. you may be better off with a new connector piece, which would include the internal o-rings. if you are getting current from the tongue tingling at the top of the connector and your attys are all in working order on the eGo, it's got to be something that happens between these two otherwise fully functioning parts. is it possible that a pice of the floating center pin broke off or became dislodged when it fell? does anything other than the absent o-rings seem out of place or abnormal about the adapter? when you fire the button, is there any warmth at or near the button and/or at the atty? is there a fifth atty you could try? do you happen to have any external adapters like a 510-901 (not the re-threader), or 510 extension that you could put on first before you attach your atomizer? is it absolutely nothing, no glow, no sizzle, no warmth, nothing at all that occurs when you attach these atomizers? and are you absolutely sure that you are getting a tingle, like the kind you get when you put your tongue on a 9 Volt battery, when you have the TS fully assembled without the atty attached?

i'm sure imeo, or someone will get you squared away eventually, but just curious in the meantime if any of these things could be resolved to get you back on track now.

Yeah, I have tried to use a different adapter, one I got from GoodProphets. It is a 510-901 adapter I got and I am using it to connect my lr 901 atties to my eGo right now. I tried it on the GGTS and it didnt do anything! I will admit, it did look like my atomizer was not screwed on straight. Maybe the threads got messed up? I don't think that would stop atomizers from firing, especially when I unscrewed then re screwed the adapter in and it went straight. There doesn't appear to be any warmth near the button, since I am almost positive that the warmth is from the hot weather we are having in my area, but I will test it out more when I have let it rest in the shade for a bit longer. But, there is no glow, no sizzle, nothing that happens on the atomizers at all! The adapter feels warm, but that may just be my sweaty hands? I am sure that I am getting a tingle however, since my tongue feels like it is being poked when I press the button, but I barely feel the metal when I am not pressing the button, and yes, this is done without the atty attached.
I am thankful for all of the helpful advice and I will continue fiddling around with the GG. Thank you everyone, especially Parallex2!

 

[buGG]

what battery are you using? are all of the atomizers LR, or just one of the 901s? have you tried a different battery setup in the TS?

 

[imeothanasis]

master, try to clean very well the internal threads of the engraved tube and tell me your results

 

[Psychomaster]

what battery are you using? are all of the atomizers LR, or just one of the 901s? have you tried a different battery setup in the TS?

I only have 2 18650 Trustfire's. Here is what I have: TrustFire Protected 18650 Battery, 2400 mah
LR 901 atties: DSE901 Mini electronic cigarette 10-pack of 1.7 Ohm low resistance (LR 901) stainless steel atomizers
510 atties: Genuine Joye 510 electronic cigarette 10-pack of black atomizers
No, I haven't got any other batteries. They worked fine for quite a while, but juice was leaking from the collection tank and going into the tube, so the batteries did get some juice on them. I don't think that mattered, because I used them for a couple of days more and they worked the same as before.

 

[Psychomaster]

master, try to clean very well the internal threads of the engraved tube and tell me your results

I will do so! I put vaseline all over the threads of the GGTS when I was done polishing it, and when I wiped the threads before putting the vaseline on, there was a lot of black stuff coming off of the threads. I will clean them and check back in soon!

Edit: Okay, I cleaned it. It was very dirty, but it didn't fix the problem. I had someone else try the GG and didn't tell them what I was doing. I did the tongue test and they jumped back after a few seconds when I pressed the button. So current is going through the GG, but not doing anything when it reaches the atty. I just put the atomiser on my eGo and it is working. This is getting rather frustrating, but I am thankful that everyone has been so helpful. I guess I might be forced to buy somethings and see exactly which part is bad. I will wait for the o-rings, but this is making me pull my hair out (literally).

 

[muddstar]

This is pretty involved. Have you tried pulling the center pin of the ADDY down? Take a straightened paper clip and stick it in the bottom of the addy, then pull the center piece down a bit. This always works for me.

 

[silentt]

Just buy another GGTS and send that one to me

JK, I hope you get this resolved quick, I would hate to be without my baby

 

[buGG]

This is pretty involved. Have you tried pulling the center pin of the ADDY down? Take a straightened paper clip and stick it in the bottom of the addy, then pull the center piece down a bit. This always works for me.

muddstar, this is a good point too, but i wonder if the atomizer(s) were shorted and the positive post pushed in a bit then they wouldn't work on the eGo either, right? definitely worth a look anyway, but this whole thing has me stumped. no matter whether the device is dirty, whether there's liquid all in the battery and it's getting ready to blow, whether the button lock ring is half turned, whether the o-rings are missing, etc., etc., there is current at the top of the adapter and an otherwise functioning atomizer. it should work. i can't understand why neither the 510s work or the 901s with the rethreader. i'm stuck thinking it's a contact issue at the center post when the atomizer is threaded on, but if you've pushed the floating pin all the way up, given a little slack in the telescope, and then gently threaded the atomizer on allowing it to push and reposition that floating center pin back down where it needs to be, and then gently tighten the telescopic part so that the battery meets the contact point, then i can't think of what else is going on. just my advice, but don't buy anything other than maybe a DMM until you've figured out what the problem is.

 

[inquisitorj]

Just to cover one other thing, does it have a standard negative spring or the fuse kit? If it has only 1 spring in the fuse kit it needs 2.

I am kinda grasping at straws now though. Baffling!

 

[Zoranth]

He said he is lubricating it with Vaseline right? maybe it is all gunked up (too much Vaseline) and making the connection very sporadic. Hence the tingle when he put his tongue on the connector. It should have been more than just a tingle. Disassemble everything, wipe it all down real good and put it back together. Try firing an atty, if it works you know what the problem was.