Kristin --Intelicig did a full study of this and it was shown that atomizers using VG do not produce Acrolein at all.
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Kristin --Intelicig did a full study of this and it was shown that atomizers using VG do not produce Acrolein at all.
Sun
Maybe I should have included that question in the survey, but I'd venture a guess that most people use prefilled carts and PG, though.
Kristin, acrolein may be produced as a by-product of the combustion of glycerin, yes, but propylene glycol is not glycerin. They are two different chemicals, and acrolein is not even a concern with regard to PG.
Acrolein would be a possible issue with VG but not PG....However...the temperatures produced in a PV are not high enough to burn and combust the VG to a point where acrolein is produced.
So it really is a non issue
So it really is a non issue
I actually had a pack of the original Eclipse smokeless cigs from RJ as part of the initial product test marketing. They used a carbon tip that you lit. As the carbon burned, the heat from that was pulled through the tobacco. They tasted like crap and no-one could stand in the room with them. They actually smelled just like farts.
Well, I have finished sending faxes to everyone on the committee after finding a few websites that let me send faxes for free and then waiting 24 hours to send half of them because of limits imposed on how many faxes can be sent. BUT I got them all, and that's what counts!
Unless you started smoking 70 years ago and have not read any news about smoking cigarettes, it is nearly impossible to see how you could not know this information. You, me, and everyone on here made a conscious choice to continue smoking. I have just had it with the blame culture. If we do not take responsibility for the choices we make and continue to blame those choices that turn bad, we deserve everything we get for that. It is not BT's fault that we kept/keep smoking. It is our individual fault for not doing all we can to change the bad choices we make. Millions of people have quit smoking on their own. If you want to be one of those, you will make it happen. Personally, I cannot stand the "poor me" victim culture we now live in.
"......tied the hands of BT." Is that not portraying Big tobacco as a 'victim' ? But, You are right, I am 100% responsible for my choices regardless of whether I knew or not what was being done to the product
that's my mistake, you are correct. Thank you for that - I will try to re-adjust my anger towards a more effective outcome.
Regarding the Eclipse cigarettes. I remember seeing and trying them a few years ago. They weren't electric cigarettes. From what i remember about them (only tried a pack and maybe only had 2 or 3 of them), and reading the little info on the box. . . I think they tried to make it seem like you were almost "steaming" the tobacco. There was no ash and it didn't burn down. Inside the outer shell was where the burning/combustion happened (you still had to start it with a lighter), and it would heat up enough to lightly burn the tobacco/glycerin mix inside the tube.
I remember feeling sick on the first inhale. I think it still relied on the combustion of the tobacco even though it was in lesser amounts than traditional analogs.
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After reading about the Accord cigarette as well. .
. . . I would suspect that even now, they're just trying to find a way to have tobacco physically present in, what they would call, their "e-cigs".
I remember feeling sick on the first inhale. I think it still relied on the combustion of the tobacco even though it was in lesser amounts than traditional analogs.
*Edit*
After reading about the Accord cigarette as well. .
. . . I would suspect that even now, they're just trying to find a way to have tobacco physically present in, what they would call, their "e-cigs".
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Well, of course they would!
They are, after all, the RJ Reynolds Tobacco Co., and the Phillip Morris Tobacco Co., and the Lorillard Tobacco Co., ad nauseum.
Anyway, the Nova site was downright hilarious. Thanks for the link.
I used to buy a pack of those eclipse cig's every now and then. They had somewhat of a bizarre after-taste to them.
You know, that's what I thought! I could have sworn that was the case, but couldn't find supporting documentation. Thanks!
No, I don't think BT is/was a victim. I simply think the facts are the facts. Had the greedy government, greedy people, and greedy culture we live in not been focused on lawsuits and money, it is possible that all could have worked together way back when to have create a safe/safer cigarette. But, then, we never do what is right: we do what is most profitable.
Kristin---This Study should be included in CASAA's library as there is no production of acrolein in our e-cigs. Also I do not know too many members here who use pre-filled carts? Most Members here use E-liquid ---Sun
See http://www.intellicig.com/images/pdf/ECOpureReport2009-04-14.pdf
I take exception Sun, I use pre-filled carts, as do many others I've seen post on here, and am totally satisfied with the pre-filled. Please don't kick me to the curb because I don't "drip" Just being facetious!
D103--I most certainly will kick you to the curb!!
Seriously though, Suppliers tell me pre-filled are a very small part of their business. Most switch over to e-liquid do to cost saving and flavor options and DIY.
Sun
D103--I most certainly will kick you to the curb!!
Seriously though, Suppliers tell me pre-filled are a very small part of their business. Most switch over to e-liquid do to cost saving and flavor options and DIY.
Sun
Awwww man......do I have to be in the minority Againnnn??? I better be looking into dripping and grinning I guess. Thanks for your response.
And thanks for watching my back... a little while ago...I'm glad someone remembered. I was chastised for that you know. Oh well I better behave now. Thanks again
D103--you were getting the "shake down" and the "Royal Scam", so I had to called it like I saw it. So not to worry my Friend!!
Sun
Remember, Sun, there is a whole world out there of vapers & suppliers who have never logged onto ECF or any other forum.D103--I most certainly will kick you to the curb!!
Seriously though, Suppliers tell me pre-filled are a very small part of their business. Most switch over to e-liquid do to cost saving and flavor options and DIY.
Sun
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