need help about new e cig

[yrdeiyrdd]

hi guys im buying my first e cigs
some tech details:
mod- Laser Etched Sentinel M16 Telescoping Mechanical mod Clone -It measures 25mm in diameter, and supports batteries up to 68mm in length
atomizer- Stainless Steel Patriot Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer (i learned to build in some videos i watched
battery i still need someones opinion because i dont know how to much the electronic stuff
coil- same as battery i need someone who know to much those electronic stuff
thats it if someone please can respond here and give me ditails what would much to my Mod

 

[realsis]

I don't know much about your mod but as far as winding coils you will want to be safe first and foremost. You will need to read and understand ohms law and know your batteries limitations because when building you do not want to exceed those limitations. You will need a ohm reader so you can read the ohms of your coil and do the math to make sure your not exceeding the limitations of your battery. If you look online they have a general rule of thumb safe vaping chart. Google safe vaping chart. Before you even begin to build it's best to understand ohms law and understand the limitations of which ever battery you will be using so you do not exceed those limitations. Once you are familiar with that I suggest practice with winding coils. I don't know about your specific mod but with most mechanical mods if the coil has a short it can become very dangerous very fast. So you will want to make sure you have a stable reading on your ohm meter. The easiest ohm meter to use is the type with the 510 connection so you can simply screw on your build and test it that way. I suggest practice before using your mechanical mod. Of course you will need wire , different gauges of wire will give different results so you might want to get a few different gauges. You will need wicking material. 100% organic unbleached cotton works very nicely or sterile cotton. Their are many different materials you can use to wick such as cotton like I mentioned, stainless steel mesh, silcia, ekowool, are some of the more popular wicks. There are different ways to wind coils to achieve various results. And you will need wire cutters, and possibly a torch to temper the coils if you like.do a lot of reading and studied before you jump into anything and always keep safety first. I hope this helps a little. Sorry I don't know about the mod your using but perhaps someone else does and can help with that and your specific battery needs. Best wishes.

 

[yrdeiyrdd]

thanks alot you helped very much and yes i do have ohm reader and i will use it after im building the atomizer with the wires but how do i know the limit and how do i prepare for the limit what are the Variables the wire? the mod ? the battery ?
and can you give me some sources to read and learn ?

 

[Forkeh]

I don't know much about your mod but as far as winding coils you will want to be safe first and foremost. You will need to read and understand ohms law and know your batteries limitations because when building you do not want to exceed those limitations. You will need a ohm reader so you can read the ohms of your coil and do the math to make sure your not exceeding the limitations of your battery. If you look online they have a general rule of thumb safe vaping chart. Google safe vaping chart. Before you even begin to build it's best to understand ohms law and understand the limitations of which ever battery you will be using so you do not exceed those limitations. Once you are familiar with that I suggest practice with winding coils. I don't know about your specific mod but with most mechanical mods if the coil has a short it can become very dangerous very fast. So you will want to make sure you have a stable reading on your ohm meter. The easiest ohm meter to use is the type with the 510 connection so you can simply screw on your build and test it that way. I suggest practice before using your mechanical mod. Of course you will need wire , different gauges of wire will give different results so you might want to get a few different gauges. You will need wicking material. 100% organic unbleached cotton works very nicely or sterile cotton. Their are many different materials you can use to wick such as cotton like I mentioned, stainless steel mesh, silcia, ekowool, are some of the more popular wicks. There are different ways to wind coils to achieve various results. And you will need wire cutters, and possibly a torch to temper the coils if you like.do a lot of reading and studied before you jump into anything and always keep safety first. I hope this helps a little. Sorry I don't know about the mod your using but perhaps someone else does and can help with that and your specific battery needs. Best wishes.

Yes, all of this. But may I also add that along with the ohm meter, you may also want a multimeter to test your batteries. Mechanical Mods are different than mods with an onboard computer. There's no battery cut off when the battery runs too low. These the types of batteries we use, discharging them too much will shorten their life, and have the potential to make them unsafe. So you don't want to do that. There is also the potential to overcharge them, even with a smart charger; electronics are not fool proof. I have a smart charger and I check my batteries before and after charging. It doesn't have to be an expensive meter for this purpose. I actually got a free one from Harbor Freight with a coupon. Almost useless for checking ohms, but it's checks my batteries just fine (you'll want to read DC, not AC).

And I also suggest that you don't just test your coil once. Test it regularly. I test mine before I use it every time, and even then after I've been vaping a while. In fact, test any topper you put on an unregulated mod because a short can occur at any time, no matter what resistance you're vaping at. You can actually get a chip that sits on your battery that will break the connection if you have a short. However, if you're going to venture into subohming, you can't really go any lower than .6 ohms with this chip. At .5 ohms you're pulling 7.4 amps from a 3.7 volt battery. The chip has a 7 amp cut off. But it's still useful if you're vaping at higher resistances.

I know it sounds intimidating at first, but it's really quite straightforward once you get into it. It only took me a day or two of studying up to really understand what was going on with resistance and voltage and amps. It's not difficult at all; you just have to be willing to learn. It's a great learning experience actually!

Here, this guide was invaluable to me when I was just learning. If fact I still use it: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-discussion-safety-battery-info-warnings.html

 

[amolson]

Just a silly question here, but why didn't you start with a known good setup? Say an eGo type battery and topper.

I started with a Spinner II and an Aspire BDC. It works well enough. Not happy with the draw on the Aspire and it holds WAY too much juice, so I moved on. Next was an Innokin iTaste VV 3.0 and a Kanger mini Protank II. Love it! At the same time, I snagged a generic VV passthrough, which now hosts the Aspire with whatever juice I think I can stand for that long. Somehow I ended up with three power units and two things to put on them. Whoops. So I went and got a mini Protank 3. The II looks like it'll be easier to rebuild, so I'll probably get more II's as I need them.

As I go along, I learn what I like and what doesn't quite work. The only piece I got that I'd probably not get again was the Aspire, but that's just because it's too big for me and the draw is way, way too heavy. (I'm a pipe smoker and smoked non-filters when I could get good ones. I like a really light draw.) It also has a plastic tank and a lot of what I vape are tank busters. But it's certainly a nice unit.

Starting with a mechanical mod is like starting with an old (like brass age) car when all you want is something to get you around town. Might want to start with the bus. It's not flashy or fancy, but it'll get you where you're going. You can always move up.

Especially if you don't know much about electronics. I'm an electrical engineer and it'll probably be a few months before I really seriously start thinking about mods. Flat out, I know ohm's law the way most people know the law of gravity and don't consider building mods a trivial exercise. The batteries people are using in mods can blow your face off. They're very high powered and not general consumer models. At least not without safety circuitry.

 

[Baditude]

Oy vey!! Yet another novice starting out with a mechanical mod and rebuildable atomizer?

You've got a LOT to learn. Mechanical mods and RBA's are considered advanced vaping. Mechanical mod safety, battery safety and which batteries to use in your mod, how to measure the resistance of your coils and why you need to do that, how to measure the voltage of your batteries and why do you need to do that. And that's not even getting into the making of the coil or the wick for the RBA.

Below is some information resources which should help you get started. All of it is critical for your safety. Lithium ion batteries pack a lot of stored energy in them; ignorance or carelessness can be catastrophic.

Mechanical Mod Safety and Useage Guide

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

Information Resources for Your First RBA

Ohm's Law for Dummies

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/546143-batteries-chargers-multi-meters-forum.html

The above information should give you a basic understanding of what you need to know. However, questions will come up and PLEASE ask here before attempting anything. We'll try to steer you away from trouble. Consider no question to be too stupid to ask.

* I highly recommend getting an inexpensive backup starter setup. Chances are it will take someone as yourself some time to be proficient to get all of the above together; plus EVERYONE needs a backup setup. Hopefully you have a friend who is using a similar setup who can help you along the way.

 

[revco]

All of the above and then some. I don't blame you for getting into the right gear up front, but there is wisdom in using a mod instead of a mech in the beginning. Examples of this might be a Lavatube, Innokin's VTR or MVP and things that have built in circuits to prevent you from doing something wrong. This will keep you protected and give you a great experience with RDA's while you learn to build coils, because there's a good chance you'll screw up in the beginning. A mod (as above) simply won't fire if things are out of spec...a mech on the other hand can blow up if you don't take care with batteries, resistance and other factors. There's a reason many of us caution others. I don't want to take you for a fool, but we don't know you and we also need to stress the safety aspect of mechs and rebuildables.

That said, I do have some insight into the gear you're talking about. The Sentinel M-16 is hands down one of my favorite mechs that I use, and I have quite a few. The reasons I like it is that it's practically bullet proof, very easy to run at home and in the field, easily adjustable (telescopic) and my brass version looks good with practically every atty on it. There's only one thing I don't like about it and that's that it's not the most comfortable mech to use, my thumb tends to hit the telescoping part and it fatigues after a good while. As far as the topper/RDA, I would probably suggest an IGO-L. Don't get me wrong, I like my Patriot, but anymore...I use the IGO-L far more often for ease of use, a cleaner experience, plenty of vapor and a much quicker wick change. I was going all gung-ho into dual coils and such when it occurred to me that simpler single-coils were actually better for me overall. Half the amount of maintenance for maybe 5% less performance.

 

[shane01101]

I enjoy my Tesla VV/VW or iTaste VV3.0. They both have built in ohm readers and wont fire under 1v.