Need help to make my decision to swap to e-cigs

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Skip the toys... Get an Innokin VV v3 or any eGo Variable voltage (2), a protank mini and an Evod as backup. ejuice - Get 20%PG , 80%VG, 18-24mg. everything should run you under $60. If you are on budget get a Full EVOD kit for under $40, bu never get an unknown brand. the main brand are Kanger, Innokin, Smoktech. they cost same as the knockoffs but are WAY better.
Then go to your doctor and see if you are going to need additional help from him (he will know, mine gave me Zyban for the initial phase and it helped, I took it for a few months).
The small ecig alike are nice, but wont help you much.
Also keep in mind that regardless the nic level in the ejuice, it takes time for it to kick in, which is the biggest issue - cigarettes give you stable immediate satisfaction, with vaping you need to wait ten min at least for it to fully kick in (which why ppl over nic).
The reason I recommend you start on high VG is that I am tired of seeing people fail to quit due to PG allergy. moderator here says its just 10%, but I think its more.
Good luck. Remember, at your age its a matter of life or death. we all pray for your success and good health. My uncle died at the age of 55 in front of me (heavy smoker), and that was it for me. He was my mentor (he was an engineer, 3 kids) and I guess this was his last lesson for me.
 

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WOW! Thanks everybody for your replies . . . . it will take me some time (tomorrow now) to digest everything that's been posted.

I was almost sure that I'd try Green Smoke as a Starter Kit . . . but now I'm not so sure!!

As I'm very new to this (and my reasons for attempting the switch will be like everybody else's I expect), so what I feel I want initially is:

1. A cigarette 'look-alike' with a similar 'draw'
2. Something that will effectively give me the same hit of nicotine per e-cig as I currently get from a JPS Black (0.9 mg per cig)
3. A simple, hassle free way of using the e-cig, both at home, in my car (maybe) or when I'm out and about on walks. Part of me feels that having to do refills myself is going to add more time and hassle?? Equally, I want to save as much money as possible by swapping to an e-cig.

The replies have given me food for thought . . . . I guess I could always try Green Smoke as a starter, but then I again, I'd be concerned that if I felt it wasn't good enough, then it might put me off trying another type!

Sorry people . . . I'm rambling . . . I will be making a decision hopefully tomorrow, so if anyone has any further comments or support, they'd be most welcome :)
 

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Hi again CE3K.

I am trying something out for you *for real* right now!!

I have paired up a myepack evod 650mAh battery with a prefilled cartomizer (£1 each) using an adapter.

Have a look at this "kit" - I'm not saying you should get it, but the experiment is to use prefilled cartos with a selection of batteries, small and big.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-review-myepack-v1-power-pcc-starter-kit.html

or

Review of Myepack V1 Power PCC Starter Kit. | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK

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So far, I have tried the refills on the cig-a-like style (from the kit) and a small evod battery. It's even been on my SID!!
 
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CE3K

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Hi again CE3K.

I am trying something out for you *for real* right now!!

I have paired up a myepack evod 650mAh battery with a prefilled cartomizer (£1 each) using an adapter.

Have a look at this "kit" - I'm not saying you should get it, but the experiment is to use prefilled cartos with a selection of batteries, small and big.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-review-myepack-v1-power-pcc-starter-kit.html

or

Review of Myepack V1 Power PCC Starter Kit. | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK

--

So far, I have tried the refills on the cig-a-like style (from the kit) and a small evod battery. It's even been on my SID!!

Cheers, I'll have a look tomorrow now . . . gotta get on with the evening meal :)
 

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Its illegal to vape and drive?

No. At least in my area, though, the police have been advised that some drug users may be using vaporizers for their herb. It was a problem at first here, but they've now illegally pulled over enough people to realize that an e-cig isn't probable cause. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
 

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1. A cigarette 'look-alike' with a similar 'draw'
2. Something that will effectively give me the same hit of nicotine per e-cig as I currently get from a JPS Black (0.9 mg per cig)
3. A simple, hassle free way of using the e-cig, both at home, in my car (maybe) or when I'm out and about on walks. Part of me feels that having to do refills myself is going to add more time and hassle?? Equally, I want to save as much money as possible by swapping to an e-cig.

Green Smoke could perfectly suit your current needs as they tick all of those boxes - I started on Green Smokes and was glad I did - I quickly moved on but they look like cigarettes, the Red Label tobacco tastes great and I was able to transition completely to vaping in two weeks using Green Smoke alone - your own experience may differ but they worked for me.

The only caveat I have is that they're expensive - not as much as E-Lites but you'll likely use 2, possibly 3 cartos per day - the 'equivalent to 2 packs of cigs' claims are totally bogus. You can read my review of the Green Smoke kit here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/standard-e-cigarette-reviews/504278-green-smoke-holiday-gift-kit-2013-review.html

If you can easily afford a kit and are just considering something familiar and of good quality then I'd say go for it - if money's an issue though, you might want to go for something more sophisticated as recommended by others here since it's likely you won't stick with Green Smokes for long due to the expense. Good luck!
 

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Oh no!!


Just had a clients computer go down.... NOOOO!!


Going to be away for at least an hour.


better take the experimental kit.....




Carto on SID..... hell, I hope nobody sees me. :)


lol i sometimes use carts on my TECs....that's the benefit of having the 510 connections so that if you don't want to "hassle", which btw really isn't a hassle, you can buy carts from any store and use the better batteries to vape them on ;)
WOW! Thanks everybody for your replies . . . . it will take me some time (tomorrow now) to digest everything that's been posted.

I was almost sure that I'd try Green Smoke as a Starter Kit . . . but now I'm not so sure!!

As I'm very new to this (and my reasons for attempting the switch will be like everybody else's I expect), so what I feel I want initially is:

1. A cigarette 'look-alike' with a similar 'draw'
2. Something that will effectively give me the same hit of nicotine per e-cig as I currently get from a JPS Black (0.9 mg per cig)
3. A simple, hassle free way of using the e-cig, both at home, in my car (maybe) or when I'm out and about on walks. Part of me feels that having to do refills myself is going to add more time and hassle?? Equally, I want to save as much money as possible by swapping to an e-cig.

The replies have given me food for thought . . . . I guess I could always try Green Smoke as a starter, but then I again, I'd be concerned that if I felt it wasn't good enough, then it might put me off trying another type!

Sorry people . . . I'm rambling . . . I will be making a decision hopefully tomorrow, so if anyone has any further comments or support, they'd be most welcome :)

as far as greensmoke goes, I do have one of the kits that I linked to (and for the price you can't really say no to try it out) as far as a cigarette-look-a-like it is one of the better batteries I have tried and I really like their clove carts but yes the price of their carts are outrageous ;) but that's why you get the e9 to 510 adapter and you can then buy any 510 cart to use or even use a tank and fill it with your own juice.
cigarette-look-a-likes are nice to have as an emergency back up...and for new vapors it is hard sometimes to move away at first from the whole it has to look like a cigarette and I understand that. However keep in mind these are the entry level to vaping....

think of it like this
cigarette-look-a-likes (usually battery life is a few hours at best and carts a day or two or less depending on use) = the most undesirable, cheapest of the cheap, generic cigarette brand (sure you're smoking, but what are you smoking)
ego style pv's (usually battery life is 4+ hours depending on mAh and carts same as above or tanks can last half a day to a week depending on size and use of tank) are more of your name brand cigarettes...good quality and more options
vv/vw mods = imported cigs/cigars...better quality, more enjoyable "smoke" and the batteries can last anywhere from half a day to a couple of days before needing recharged depending on your use, or you can get into advanced mods that use actual batteries and you can use one while the other battery charges and never worry about waiting on the device to recharge to use it


I really highly suggest stepping out of your comfort zone and getting a variable voltage ego twist, a glass protank style tank and a metal vivi nova tank and then some juice to fill with, you won't be let down...

however as you stated you want the cig-a-likes here are a few links to some trials to save you money and let you at least try different things, I have personally tried these :D

as already posted
Free Greensmoke Starter Kit, while supplies last for new users only

and then the cheapest e9 to 510 adapter I've found (and use)
E9 to 510 adapter

So for like $5 to $10 you can't beat a complete kit ;) one battery, one usb charger and some cartomizers and then the adapter to be able to use any 510 cartomizers or 510 tanks ;)

these 2 are for disposables to try out

Free NJoy Use coupon code Tryking (may have to pay for shipping)

and then RealFeel not free, you pay $5.00 "for shipping" and get 3 of them.
[edit]not sure why the link is being changed and results in page not found but here's the url
realfeelecig.com/free-trial.html[/edit]


of course there's blu....they are ok, more widely known, hit and miss on quality
clayton i really like the taste of their carts but the battery is less than desirable, just not powerful enough and have to really take a hard draw to get it to work
greensmoke, best battery I've found so far but it is not a 510 device so you need an adapter to use other carts with it, carts are expensive
MarkTen is a new cig-a-like out on the market and so far it is by far my favorite but there again it is not a true 510 device so you can't use other carts with it and it's still so new there's no adapters yet and only comes in flavorless or menthol carts but so far the best battery life and draw for a cig-a-like i've found
NJoy, i have only ever tried their disposables but to me tastes more cigarette like
Mystic is another new one that is supposedly an up and coming I have yet to try them

lmfao I work in a gas station/convenience store so I've taken it upon myself to try what we sell so I can give honest views to people that come into the store ;)

[edit] saving money in the long run you will be best to move onto a variable voltage mod with a tank and ejuice....it's hassle free...fill tank with your favorite ejuice and vape away ;)
much cheaper than cig-a-likes and more rewarding/satisfying and lasts a lot longer
as for about the same nic level I'd say like others that somewhere around 12 - 18 mg nic would probably be about the same.

and then later on once you are comfy ;) to really cut costs you can start to diy ejuice ;) then the real fun begins lmfao
 
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A lot of those brands aren't available in the UK Shadav - we don't even have Blu here :D Skycig and E-Lites are the most popular cigalikes here and are both dreadful in comparison to Green Smoke. NJoys are available, but only the disposables.

Oh yes. This is true.

The "popularity" of E-Lites just proves that nicotine addiction is not really the issue for some smokers.

Then again, it's always worth pointing out the E-Lites are the most popular on the amount of money spent (we are talking mega-millions of pounds)... which isn't hard, as they charge £3.99 per cartomiser.
 

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I tried the Greensmokes thinking they would help because they were more like a cigarette, boy was I wrong! But now I have a ego battery and several different clearomizers and thankfully haven't smoked or wanted a real cig in 3 weeks! By the way I was a 2 pack a day smoker for 35 years!
 
Hello CE3K,

You've gotten plenty replies already, so I'll give you a break on the gizmos, gadgets and acronyms. Although I will give you my recent experience helping a new-comer to this vapor thing. My Father.

First of all, you've come to the right place. There's no place like ECF. For beginner or advanced. Welcome.

I thought of my Father when you stated your age, and have now become personally interested in your success. He's is 61 years old and has smoked cigarettes for as long as I remember. I have recently tried turning him on to vaping in place of smoking. I love the man dearly, but he is not the most technical guy I know. :) He is a simple man. So, I need to keep things as simple and convenient as I can for him. Otherwise he'll just toss the idea of vaping and stay on the cigs. This is a good way of approaching it at first. Keep it simple and convenient. I'm still working on that currently with him, and I don't want to give up until he has had a good go of it. He can handle a smartphone, so I'm hoping he'll do fine with the vaping thing. ;)

Now, as for you. Thinking back to my Computer Helpdesk days, I'm going to assume that you are not technical. I don't know you, so please don't take offense. It's just the proper starting point to gauge the person I'm talking to. If the technical jargon puts you off, then ignore it for now. If you're an Engineer, then you'll be a quick study. Either way, take some of the suggestions here about "just get going" seriously and buy your first device. Be it a disposable, or a starter kit. I tried the disposables and liked it, but wanted more. After coming home with my first basic kit, I was hooked. I didn't "try" to quit smoking. It just happened.

Bottom line... Start vaping. Start with a disposable, or start with a kit. Just don't get discouraged. Take it slow. Try things out.
It's not entirely bad that you try the crappy products first. That's how you know you've moved to something better.
Soon you'll find what works for you and what you like best.
Don't worry about expense at first. You'd spend the money on something anyway right?
At least it's not cigs! There's some up-front expense, but in time you'll break even and in the end you'll save.
You'll feel better, enjoy your "smoke" breaks even more, sense of smell and taste increase, and your clothes wont smell like an ash tray!

I know this reply was long, but I hope it helped. The ECF community is here for you every step of the way...
 

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Bottom line... Start vaping. Start with a disposable, or start with a kit. Just don't get discouraged. Take it slow. Try things out.
It's not entirely bad that you try the crappy products first. .

I agree, (sort of...)

However, it still hurts I spent £200 needlessly on hopeless products. I barely even dented my smoking habit and just got ripped off.
Actually, it's not really the money, it was the crippling withdrawal..... and my moods...

Still, that's not going to happen here as CE3K has been sensible and asked on here. ECF will stop her repeating the DJS experimental stage of vaping. :)
 

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CE3K : You are missing the main ingredient of quitting smoking, the will. sounds like you want to quite but not let it bother you. Its going to bother you, and changing cartos and filling a clearomizer or "putting up" with an eGo size battery is just the tip of the iceberg. so if an "eGo is too much", then I think we need to double our prayers for your health.
 
However, it still hurts I spent £200 needlessly on hopeless products.

Very true, but not likely all at once. Right? At least with my experience it wasn't. It seems it's almost like a rite of passage to start with an eGo or pre-filled carto kit and grow from there. Especially if someone isn't akin to gadgetry. I guess my original "bottom line" statement should have read: "what ever brings you satisfaction in the easiest format available to your budget". :)

Actually, it's not really the money, it was the crippling withdrawal..... and my moods...
Yikes! Sorry to hear that. That wasn't my experience. Everyone is different. Hopefully all goes well for the OP CE3K!

Still, that's not going to happen here as CE3K has been sensible and asked on here. ECF will stop her repeating the DJS experimental stage of vaping. :)

Agreed! :)
 

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OK, I've digested all the replies . . . and thanks again :)

Boy o boy! This all seems really complicated, especially when I read about all the different kits/methods some people use.

I honestly don't believe I'm ready for that just yet.

What I feel I want to do is go for an e-cig (such as Green Smoke, which seems on the whole to have very positive reviews) just to get me started. I just need to whittle my short list down to three then make my choice. In time, maybe I can look into the other kits/methods of vaping if it turns out the the e-cig I choose isn't suitable.

So, I have one outstanding concern after reading responses and other threads on this Forum . . . . .

Firstly, I accept that things will be different from smoking cigarettes. I understand that a cigarette has a 'start' and a 'finish' when it burns out. I understand the nicotine withdrawal process and the fact that it results in me needing to light up again after about an hour or so. I normally take about 10 drags from each cigarette I smoke (sometimes less if I just need a quick top up of nicotine).

So, what's this I read about people 'continually vaping' or 'chain vaping' to get the same effect?

I was fully expecting to be able to take around 10 drags on whichever suitable e-cig I choose and then switch it off until the next hour or so. Is what I'm reading telling me that I won't get the same amount of nicotine from 10 drags of an e-cig (medium to strong) as I would from my JPS Black (0.9mg per cig) and that therefore I'll have to vape for longer?

See the way I understood it was that e-cig is a replacement for cigarettes and to me, if I have to change my habit so much as to need me to vape for e.g. an hour to get the same effect, then vaping isn't going to be for me.

I'd be grateful if someone can put me right on this . . . . . . (nevertheless, whatever the responses, I'm still going to go for it once I decide which e-cig kit to get)
 
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