One Thing E Cigs NEED...Why Real Cigs are BETTER

[mmkeebler]

Wouldn't mind a soft little 'vrrp'. More of a feeling than a beep? Not really sure how to explain it. From the time the button is pressed (on a manual), or automatic is activated, a timer might start -- 5 minutes later, the little 'vrrp' is made. Hello? Modders? It takes me about 5-7 minutes to go through a Marlboro Light 100. So, a setting would need to be on it surely for people who use(d) shorts.

Actually, there's a lot of factors here if you want your vape session to be equivelant, and a timer of some sort. Ie:
What's your average nic intake? Were/Are you smoking Full flavor, lights, ultra lights... 100s? 120s?

That's probably a bit much. I do remember a little alarm that helped my mother quit smoking. She initially entered in how many cigarettes she smoked a day on a normal day, then it would give off a little chirp when the machine said it was okay for her to smoke another cigarette. Gradually decreasing her intake of nicotine.

I'm sure it could be done in another 'accessory'. Like a little pedometer almost.
A vape in/vape out time clock. LOL

 

[justsomeguy]

I put no-nic in my cart so I can vape all day. Drip when I feel the urge to smoke with 24mg. 3 drops. And it's kept things at bay. Maybe try it? ^^ Then you can chain vape all ya want for flavor. When you feel like you want nicotine, drip again.

That's a really good idea, I may try that seeing as I've found myself in the same boat - vaping pretty much all day. I'm not going overboard on the nic, but I'm pretty certain I'm getting more nic that I was from analogs.

Granted I understand we're not getting all the other crap we got from analogs (and my body can feel the difference, I haven't felt this good in years) - but a lot of the stuff I read on this forum makes me think people have forgotten that nicotine isn't good for us. I do enjoy it, don't get me wrong... but I also don't want to go overboard with it.

 

[sporkboy]

I don't know how many people would actually buy a mod like this, again to many variants for each person, just set a timer on your phone or watch. I personally do need to cut my nicotine back, but I do not care how much I vape as long as I am not smoking a analogue. found a zero nic cart that I am smoking right now and plan on trying to find some PG or VG tomorrow at the tractor supply or art supply store tomorrow and seeing if much flavor is lost cutting some of my current 16mg juice

 

[EliXColdiron]

They could just make something that goes between the battery and the atomizer rather than creating a whole new battery.

 

[boochips]

These devices need to "beep" after 14 to 16 puffs, indicating that you have smoked the equivilant of 1 cigarette.

The good thing about REAL CIGs is that you know how many you've smoked.

I've been pounding Nicotine on my USB passthrough all night and have NO IDEA how many real cigs worth of Nicotine I've inhaled.

A few months back I read somewhere that if we vape 24mg for 5 minutes straight we are only getting about 1 tenth of the nicotine we got from a cigarette.....but who cares right?

 

[Slim_TheHippie]

I like the idea of having a "puff" counter. I would not need a screen, but just a way to transfer the data to a computer or smart phone. After driving a semi, and now working in an office I am not overly concerned about my Nic intake just curious about my new habit.

 

[NCC]

They could just make something that goes between the battery and the atomizer rather than creating a whole new battery.

My Kissbox has a separate switch module between the battery and the atty. I'm pretty sure it will outlast either of them (it should). And since it IS the switch, whether manual or automatic, that would be the perfect place for any additional gadgetizing electronics (like an LCD) to keep track of your consumption. But, with most devices the switch is built into the battery ... so, not sure how that would work other than building the additional electronics into the battery.

 

[Mammal]

I've already suggested this to someone, but the cheapest and least-intrusive way to implement something like this would be to put a cheap 'break timer' in a PCC. Either a mechanical dial (egg timer) or electronic (be it a 'countdown' barchart or a single LED that starts to flash and then goes out).

It wouldn't be a total stretch to build an 'odometer' in there, possibly just based on how often you intentionally start the timer. It wouldn't be a total stretch to put it in the battery, either, but you'd need some custom silicon along the lines of that used in printer cartridges, and adding more parts to what's supposed to be a cheap, consumable part of the device isn't good business.

(Counting puffs would add additional complexity, although I guess you could get it out of the battery by tying into the line that already exists for the LED. Counting charges could be done 'inkjet-style,' by just putting a passive PROM of some sort on the battery, but you'd need additional contacts and that'd make the sometimes-troublesome-already connectors needlessly complex. And then your atomizer would lock you out from adapting to other factories' batteries. )

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Okay, extra thought for anyone crazy enough to try to implement this: If the 'odometer' unit is 'pack-equivalents' - whether it gets metered by manually clicking/using the start-the-timer click OR just roughly based on number-of-battery-charges... Then you can keep costs down by blinking it out on a single LED. Maybe 'half-pack-equivalents' (~10 cigarette-equivalents) would be better, and probably the best precision you could hope for when guesstimating like that.

I guess representing 'zero' in a manner different from 'the show-the-odometer-reading-button is broken' requires some thought, but, y'know, long, short, 'end of reading signal' strobe, whatever.

 

[EliXColdiron]

My Kissbox has a separate switch module between the battery and the atty. I'm pretty sure it will outlast either of them (it should). And since it IS the switch, whether manual or automatic, that would be the perfect place for any additional gadgetizing electronics (like an LCD) to keep track of your consumption. But, with most devices the switch is built into the battery ... so, not sure how that would work other than building the additional electronics into the battery.

it could just count how much current travels through the device. that way it wouldn't have to circumvent any parts of the PV, it would just passively keep track of how much power has been used.

 

[Metstoo]

Maybe you could jury-rig a PV to a pedometer with a beeper and track puffs, time and cardiovascular results!

Seriously, can you imagine all the attachments and software that could be produced? Where can I buy stock?

 

[quasimod]

In my understanding, the simplest way to estimate nicotine consumption via mouth/nose/lung absorption (there is no exact method that I'm aware of) is to measure the amount of liquid you use. Smokers have no idea how much nicotine they absorb, either. The number of cigarettes you smoke(d) is a meaningless metric that tells you very little about your nicotine consumption.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it, then tell me how much "better" it is.

 

[EverHopeful]

Hello All...

Just thought I would add this, I found it the other day while reading in another thread.

A guy wrote:

1 pack of cigarettes equals approx 20mgs of nicotine
so approx 2ml of 11mg strength-liquid, would equal about 22 cigs per day.

This calculation was a good find for me, so I will know just about how much to Vape. And, the strength he mentioned was at 11mg, but the e-liquids come in a variety of strengths.

Hope this helps

 

[Martiandrummer]

We get a lot of questions around here about how many puffs of an ecig equal a real cig, etc. In time, you'll realize that it doesn't really matter. If you use your ecig enough to keep you away from smoking those nasty cancer sticks, does it really matter?

Personally, I wouldn't want my ecig beeping at me. As it is, I prefer not to even have an LED.

I could not agree more, I have 2 small children, I don't want my e-cig to beep like one of their toys... It is bad enough that I am having a hard time quiting anaologs, but adding toy sounds to my e-cig just does not appeal to my at all.

Anyway, I never policed the # of anaolgs I smoked, why police my e-cig with numbers... I'm not trying to match or deny myself, just trying to get off analogs, then step down nic level over time (nice and slow!)

 

[JollyRogers]

hmm.. sounds like an idea for an iPhone app

Seriously, I join my wife for cigarette breaks and count the puffs usually about 12-14 puffs for her in about 5-8 minutes. She doesn't take long draws like I used to, but we smoked together all the time and usually had the same basic smoking style. I tried keeping up with her on my 510, which vapes like a cigar as far as vapor production! I couldn't. I normally just hit the PV about 3-4 times. set it aside, then hit it again. IT seems I am chain vaping, but in reality I am using it at a realitively slow pace in comparison to a smoker gettin their nic fix.

 

[southener]

I'm only off the analogs for just over 3 weeks and i use my pv all the time at home, i know that i'm getting more nicotine than before. I don't think this is an issue i vape 38mg juice and get no symptoms of nicotine O/D.

In my mind if it keeps me off the coffin nails its a good thing.

 

[rtbob]

Beep = shorter batt life. No thanks.

 

[LinkReincarnate]

It seems like a reasonable idea but if you want to reduce your nicotine content why not just make(or buy if your boring) e-juice with less nicotine. Also I think it would be better for the led to blink once when you finished a cigarettes worth, a beep would be annoying and take a lot more hardware, thus making the device clunky for no reason other than the beep.

 

[NCC]

Beep = shorter batt life. No thanks.

I serously doubt that a single beep to indicate a preset level of puffs (or whatever) would use a MUCH power as that damned LED on the tip of most batteries, which turns on whenever the power is applied and stays on until it is cut.
While neither consumes a great deal of power, the LED spends MUCH more of its time powered up.

LinkReincarnate: I could be wrong, but I think most of the people who tossed ideas into the hat were more or less doing thought experiments and enjoying discussing whatever possibilities could exist. But, I've been wrong before. As for myself, I'd probably get a kick out of the info provided by the LCD 'suggestion' I threw in. But, in my view, that feature would just add to the geekiness of the device. And that appeals to me. As far as adding clunkiness by the addition of a beep, a tiny peizoelectric transducer and a tiny chip to control it would probably fit inside most PVs without any kind of physical outward change, other than a tiny port for the sound.

Now, a USB port for downloading saved statistics would necessarily add "clunkiness", but wouldn't it be kewl to view and graph the data on your PC?

Not that I think any of this stuff is likely to be offered ... nothin' wrong with conversation, huh?

 

[NCC]

EDIT: Removed response to above (removed) post.

 

[PaulB]

There are some ways I wish an e-cigarette was more like a cigarette (for example, the warmth between the fingers), but timing isn't one of them. I sort of like the way I can extend the smoking experience ungoverned by the length of a cigarette (and without guilt).