Need help with identifying synthetics

[Frost03]

Switched to vaping a few months ago. My first nic salt was vanilla custard by monster labs(which felt nicotine through & through). Then I got a custard cookie(noticed it felt off, later found out it is synthetic, labelled on the bottle). & Now I got a watermelon apple by 7 daze(even though it gave a good throat hit there's no buzz, even though the bottle clearly states it is nicotine, I feel it is not).

I need help to identify which brands make tobacco derived & which ones are synthetic. Is there any lost or something. Cause the shopkeepers not well informed about this at all. I'm going to different shops & everyone is the same. I guess they just have to clear their stock.

 

[bombastinator]

Switched to vaping a few months ago. My first nic salt was vanilla custard by monster labs(which felt nicotine through & through). Then I got a custard cookie(noticed it felt off, later found out it is synthetic, labelled on the bottle). & Now I got a watermelon apple by 7 daze(even though it gave a good throat hit there's no buzz, even though the bottle clearly states it is nicotine, I feel it is not).

I need help to identify which brands make tobacco derived & which ones are synthetic. Is there any lost or something. Cause the shopkeepers not well informed about this at all. I'm going to different shops & everyone is the same. I guess they just have to clear their stock.

My understanding is when people are talking about “synthetics” they are talking about synthetic nic. My understanding is that it’s vastly more expensive than”naturally sourced” and that the whole point was to duck the “tobacco product” legislation and when that got crushed so did synthetic nicotine. You may be talking about something else though. Or you may not be and I’m just wrong. That happens (with distressing frequency)

 

[AsComaDIM]

Actually, I don't get the same nicotine satisfaction from synthetic or tobacco free nicotine liquids as I do from natural nicotine. For this reason I stay away from the products that say "Synthetic" or "TFN" on the label.

 

[bombastinator]

Actually, I don't get the same nicotine satisfaction from synthetic or tobacco free nicotine liquids as I do from natural nicotine. For this reason I stay away from the products that say "Synthetic" or "TFN" on the label.

Well chemicals are chemicals, and the chemical is going to be the same. The difference is it’s going to be dead pure and perfect. Ironically the way you tell synthetic rubies from natural ones is you look at the crystalline structure. The synthetic rubies will be perfect, the natural ones will have tiny imperfections.
There may be something in the “natural” nic besides nicotine which does it for you. A small percentage of Something so close to nic that It’s considered nic. A flipped bond or odd fold or something. More likely it’s psychosomatic though.

 

[AsComaDIM]

Well chemicals are chemicals, and the chemical is going to be the same. The difference is it’s going to be dead pure and perfect. Ironically the way you tell synthetic rubies from natural ones is you look at the crystalline structure. The synthetic rubies will be perfect, the natural ones will have tiny imperfections.
There may be something in the “natural” nic besides nicotine which does it for you. A small percentage of Something so close to nic that It’s considered nic. A flipped bond or odd fold or something. More likely it’s psychosomatic though.

I have no idea if it's psychosomatic or not. I noticed the label said synthetics nicotine after I used the liquid for a while. There was no nicotine satisfaction before I realized this, and there is no nicotine satisfaction after I realized it either.

 

[bombastinator]

I have no idea if it's psychosomatic or not. I noticed the label said synthetics nicotine after I used the liquid for a while. There was no nicotine satisfaction before I realized this, and there is no nicotine satisfaction after I realized it either.

Maybe they cheaped out and it’s actually a zero. Nicotine IS the most expensive ingredient. Or maybe they left out a step making it or did it wrong. Cooking is chemistry after all. Putting in salt instead of sugar is a classic. What comes out is not a cake.