FDA Regulation of Synthetic Nicotine May Be on the Horizon
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So that's it that , it's over ?I'm soo mad at this , it's so ridiculous unfair and unjust! They allow drunk drivers and tobacco that's far more dangerous, but vaping is the culprit?
All 100% about power and money that proves it
Might be helpful if you put your location in your profile (mine says Seattle under the avatar).
I have spoken with employees in the industry, and there are ways to get equipment for vaping. One needs to learn DIY for juice, and stock up. Your location dictates the best alternatives.
Don't be so stressed out. Action is better than wallowing (In my opinion), and there is plenty of action you can take. Watch the CASAA videos on you tube, also Grimmgreen (I like their positivity and realism). If you join groups on Facebook, be sure to PM messages about what you need, and don't be scammed. Better to get plan of action in place.
Whom to talk with, your local vape shops, employees of nicotine companies and online vape stores that answer phones. The rest is based on your location.
I agree with everything you said, but if I can add that the FDA shows no interest at all in enforcing anything related to hardware except for disposables and those Juul style pods. What they really look to be bothered about currently is flavored juice. So yes, if you really focus on anything right now, it should be the juice. If you have spare time and funds, then maybe you can cover the hardware as well.
The thing that always puzzles me is that we have lawmakers passing laws that the FDA just seems to ignore. Will the FDA one day start caring or is their indifference showing us how they really feel? I tend to believe that the FDA really doesn't care about this much except for underage vaping and flavored juice. Just my opinion.
I ordered a several liters of 100mg/ml nic base a couple of years age, broke it down into 100ml clear glass bottles, and stored it in the freezer. At my 3mg/ml vape level I've only partially used a little over one 100ml bottle of nic since then. I expect my nic supply to last for many years.
Tapering down the nic percentage greatly extends the life of your stash of nic. I was at 24mg strength when I started vaping. Now, 3mg satisfies my nic habit (and my nic base).
Tapering down the nic percentage greatly extends the life of your stash of nic. I was at 24mg strength when I started vaping. Now, 3mg satisfies my nic habit (and my nic base).
Well I kind of agree, but one does need some hardware and we never know when that's gonna dry up due businesses going belly-up the threat of China govt banning exports to USA. Trying to vaporize nic juice in an uncontrolled way, like with fire, isn't going to be safe or desirable
. But I suppose you could make nicotine delivery product with it, like lozenges and tooth picks.I also agree that the FDA doesn't seem to be wholeheartedly interested in having to regulate vape - that may mainly be due to lack of resources to do so. I dunno.
Like I said, if you have the time and the funds, go for itWell I kind of agree, but one does need some hardware and we never know when that's gonna dry up due businesses going belly-up the threat of China govt banning exports to USA. Trying to vaporize nic juice in an uncontrolled way, like with fire, isn't going to be safe or desirable
I also agree that the FDA doesn't seem to be wholeheartedly interested in having to regulate vape - that may mainly be due to lack of resources to do so. I dunno.
. I don't recommend your alternative however 
. Seriously, if you use and RDA / RTA you don't need coils, just some wire and cotton. Have any old t-shirts lying around? 
Many will tell you that the current FDA's apparent Look-the-Other-Way approach towards e-Cigarettes has been Exasperated by the Lack of a Senate Confirmed FDA Commissionaire. Of course, that has now Changed. So I would be Hesitant to Perceive the FDA's Enforcement Strategy as being static as we move forward.
The FDA also never wanted an Over the Cliff deadline approach. Where one day the Market is Hunky Dory. And the Next it has been Wiped Out by regulations. They instead opted for the "Boil the Frog" approach. Which they have used Many Times in the past. With much success.
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Or socks?
The problem with rebuildables is that many (probably most) people who vape, even those who have been vaping for a decade, just don't like faffing with rebuildables, they just want to vape. I don't blame them, but that makes stocking up REEEALY expensive. Quitting is the cheapest way, unless you go back to cigarettes, of course.
At this point, I have don't recommend any newb to even bother, really. (by "newb" i don't just mean new to vaping but also new to stocking up supplies - unless you have a good amount of cash to spend RIGHT NOW lol).
I think it is much more interesting on who replaces Mitch Zeller. That will be a great indication on how the FDA will approach vaping. Califf has given no indication at all on his views on vaping, and in fact, there were almost no questions on vaping in his confirmation hearing. I guess time will tell.
Ya, I have a recurve RDA, a GeekVape Aegis RTA (which I don't really like) and a BPMods Pioneer RTA and I am usually ...... off at 1 or more of them. I usually end up using my Caliburn G2 just because it is so easy, so I know exactly what you mean. But no matter how touchy they are, it is good to have an RDA / RTA around in case things get rough. I probably have 4 or 5 spools of wire just laying around. I kept ordering more because I couldn't find them or forgot I had them.Or socks?
The problem with rebuildables is that many (probably most) people who vape, even those who have been vaping for a decade, just don't like faffing with rebuildables, they just want to vape. I don't blame them, but that makes stocking up REEEALY expensive. Quitting is the cheapest way, unless you go back to cigarettes, of course.
At this point, I have don't recommend any newb to even bother, really. (by "newb" i don't just mean new to vaping but also new to stocking up supplies - unless you have a good amount of cash to spend RIGHT NOW lol).
Smoking cigarettes would be a million times safer if your socks are like mine
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Yes, I am being serious. He has spoken out about banning flavored juice and about underage vaping, but at this point who hasn't. He has given no indication at his confirmation or since on whether he would do anything regarding vaping at all. I will admit he is getting serious pressure to address vaping, but again, no statements or actions. Politicians talk all the time, whether they actually do anything is another matter.
Seriously?
Perhaps it is good to Remember that Califf is a v2.0 cutout.
Like some awful Déjà vu. The Next FDA Commissionaire?
Do a Little Research on your own and I think you will Find that Califf isn't on too many THR Advocates Christmas Card Lists.
As I said in my first post, and in my second, and now my third, I fully expect the FDA to start to crack down on flavored juice. Here let me quote it for you from my first post:
That however is a far cry from a total ban on vaping. I am not going to blame Califf for something that was well underway before he was appointed. The FDA has been sending warning letters to online juice retailers who are shipping flavored juice that doesn't have a PMTA submission for at least 6 months. IMO, this is a done deal, not a matter of if, but a matter of when.
We can do what our forefathers did and make our own mech mods. I think there are some videos on Youtube that will actually show you how to do it. It pays to be old like me, I have actually done it.
Come to think of it, this could be a business opportunity, I think I have room for a CNC in my garage.
We can do what our forefathers did and make our own mech mods. I think there are some videos on Youtube that will actually show you how to do it. It pays to be old like me, I have actually done it.
Come to think of it, this could be a business opportunity, I think I have room for a CNC in my garage.
I bought a few of these and a few of old, clone tube mechs on clearance for an insane price (and fuses for them). By the time I may actually need to resort to using a mech, I'll be too old to want to make one probably. But yes, it's a option and I have some schematics I saved to my hard drive.
I Don't Think you Understand what is going on? And I guess you weren't around the ECF in May of 2016.
Because this Isn't the 1st time Califf has been Appointed to Head the FDA. It is the 2nd.
For someone who joined ECF in 2009, there is no excuse for not being set for life. It isn't like we didn't know that this was going to happen.
Here, try this if you want something besides a mech mod. (thanks Mamu)
http://www.howder.com/dena_howto.pdf
Here, try this if you want something besides a mech mod. (thanks Mamu)
http://www.howder.com/dena_howto.pdf
Member since Nov 2009. I stand by my statements and my opinion as I clearly stated it multiple times:
You can keep repeating your opinion as many times as you want, I don't think it is really working on me.
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