His aviary is enclosed and contains 2 parakeets. My cat can't get to the birds. However, when the birds see my cat they start plucking at their feathers because my cat makes them nervous and upset. That is what his wife told me. She understands that the birds are attractive to my cat and realizes my cat can't get the birds. Thanks niterider for that link, looks like a good idea. Maybe I could do both.
Need help with my cat
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I have had several cats in my life. The two I grew up with Niko and Yoko were siamese full bred and lived to their 20's. They were strictly indoor cats.
The cats I got when Niko and Yoko died were mixed types. One was a siamese, she lived to 18, one was a ragdoll who lived to 19, One was a ragdoll/maine .... and he had diabetes at 6, and was put down, and I just put down my high school kitty last week, she was about 16 and a half. The last cat, was an outdoor cat that I took in and she never ever ever wanted to go outside again. She was done with it. The 6 year old cat tried to get outside all the time, and succeeded a few times. My two current cats, two fullbred maine coons tried to get outside once, succeeded once and cried until I found them, they were scared so much they never went near the door again.
None of my cats were ever declawed, that's inhumane, like cutting the ends of your fingers off. The cats I have do sometimes scratch the wood table and other things, but that's because I forgot to replace the scratching posts. Both boys are 15 almost 16 now, and only one of them is on a daily medication, the other is perfectly healthy. Cats just live longer if kept inside.
It would be like keeping a maltese outside just because it's a dog and it wants to go outside.
There's a big difference between 'keeping outside' and letting them go out.
I can understand people wanting to keep their cats indoors all of the time, and I understand that not everyone lives somewhere suitable to permit them to go outside, but to say that someone doesn't deserve to have cats because they do let them outside (esp when you know nothing of the crcumstances of where they live other than the fact that there is an aviary next door) is rather OTT to me.
EDIT: For the record: I currently have one cat that isn't really interested in going outside at all, but even she enjoys going out on a nice sunny day and lying in the garden in the dappled shade of one of our large shrubs. I have only lost one cat prematurely - and that was becase he had a very nasty freak accident indoors (I won't go into details, but we were out at the time)
I can understand people wanting to keep their cats indoors all of the time, and I understand that not everyone lives somewhere suitable to permit them to go outside, but to say that someone doesn't deserve to have cats because they do let them outside (esp when you know nothing of the crcumstances of where they live other than the fact that there is an aviary next door) is rather OTT to me.
EDIT: For the record: I currently have one cat that isn't really interested in going outside at all, but even she enjoys going out on a nice sunny day and lying in the garden in the dappled shade of one of our large shrubs. I have only lost one cat prematurely - and that was becase he had a very nasty freak accident indoors (I won't go into details, but we were out at the time)
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cagesbydesign ... easy site to find...might be the answer if money's not an issue. They have gorgeaus huge enclosures with all kinds of options to keep a cat that refuses to be an indoor cat. I've been running a pet rescue for years and I'm also an emergency vet tech. I've seen the worst of letting cats roam and I've also met cats that are just miserable indoors. Some can be trained to stay in (with the proper toys and attention) and some just can't. I would go with the citrus around the aviary to try to keep the cat away much more so than the invisible fence. I've seen way to many issues with them. The batteries can short out and actually burn the cat and that's only ONE of the issues.
I have a few other tricks up my sleeve but too involved to post here, but if you want to pm me, I'd be happy to work with you trying to find a resolution that will be acceptable to your neighbor, you and most importantly, your cat.
Good luck,
-Pam
I have a few other tricks up my sleeve but too involved to post here, but if you want to pm me, I'd be happy to work with you trying to find a resolution that will be acceptable to your neighbor, you and most importantly, your cat.
Good luck,
-Pam
The birds are obviously terrified to see a predator clinging to the cage - its totally unacceptable.
If a person can't keep their pets on their property, they should keep them caged, inside or give them to someone who can.
Mine were just young strays that came by and I took in. I had all three neutered and that was it. One got cancer on it's lip when it was 6 (vet removed it) and lived 10 or 11 more years. They enjoyed their lives and I enjoyed them.
Thanks everyone. My cats don't live outside. They are always inside at night to sleep and during the day too, to take naps. MOst of the time they (I have 2) stay in the yard and play and take naps on the porch or in my studio. They do obviously, like to visit the neighbors and this has never been a problem until the birds came. I love my cats and they are members of the family. When they do leave my yard which is fenced, they are never out of ear shot. All I have to do is call and there they are, so it's not like they roam the streets. I really appreciate everyones help. Pam I will pm you.
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Very similar situation to me. It causes all sorts of amusement when I call one of them home and they come running.... lots of people don't beleve that cats come when they're called.
Cats are a lot smarter than most people give them credit for.
We have 5 cats - 3 are indoor cats and 2 are outdoor cats.
We also live in the country with no neighbors.
Seems like Kate's idea with the repellant would most likely solve the problem of not getting your cat harmed and further aggravating the neighbors.
Exactly why our kids (cats 
are INSIDE kitties.
Let them run and don't be surprised if they end up dead and / or contributing to the horrid overpopulation problems that result in so many being destroyed.
If one can not be responsible for their pet / companion then IMNSHO they shouldn't have them. Just because it is "Their Nature" then let it be their nature INSIDE. Presuming one actually cares what happens to it.
If you live 100 miles from anyone, then whatever.
Yeah, I am kind of cold about this kind of thing.
are INSIDE kitties. Let them run and don't be surprised if they end up dead and / or contributing to the horrid overpopulation problems that result in so many being destroyed.
If one can not be responsible for their pet / companion then IMNSHO they shouldn't have them. Just because it is "Their Nature" then let it be their nature INSIDE. Presuming one actually cares what happens to it.
If you live 100 miles from anyone, then whatever
.Yeah, I am kind of cold about this kind of thing.
I have had several cats (see previous post) The ragdoll, his name was simon (his brother garfunkel died young) used to sit by the door every night, precisely 5 minutes before I would arrive home. If I was running late, he would immediately start McOWWWING at my mother to alert her that I was late... lmao
My Maine .... Manchester walks over to the garage door now... and waits precisely 10 minutes before I should be home from school. He likes to escort me into the kitchen lmao... Me thinks he wants food to drop.
Simon was a baby, more or less, and I had him potty trained (as in using a toilet) He was pretty good at it until he got to be around 12, when his balance wasn't as good. He went back to using a box. He would jump up on the counter, say his "McOW" very stern like and wait, if you didn't give him fresh water in a fancy crystal bowl, he would knock whatever was on the counter over. He was quite feisty.
Ebony, the cat I had to put down two weeks ago, she used to push her bowl all the way into my mother's room when she was hungry, then she'd flip it over so it would make a loud noise and wake her up. Ebony also knew when I was going to give her a bath. She could hear the kitchen sink fill up with water. She would wait right at the corner of the bed, and when I would reach for her she would climb up in my mother's boxspring and wait for hours if she had to. (she was an obnoxious feral thing)
All I can say is that England does not treat their animals the same way. In the US, dogs end up chained outside, and cats are normally kept inside because of the feline diseases. I dislike people who declaw their cats, and I really can't stand people who don't keep their cats inside where it is safe. I do realize that it is sometimes impossible, or near impossible to convince a cat that they should be inside, if they want to be outside.
This is a really nice find!
Pineneedle, you have my sympathies... having difficult neighbors is rough, especially ones that have drinking problems. But, Kate's find looks really promising!
Here's a YouTube Video to brighten your day.
YouTube - Christian the lion Reunion, FULL LENGTH MOVIE, London Lion reunited in Africa
Would it be possible to make a "cat run", where you could make an enclosure (chicken wire, with plenty of room) where they could go out and come in from your back door? Like a screened porch for your Puddies.
Outdoor cats don't like to be closed in, but if they had their own room they wouldn't care if they had only 50 square feet to wander in or a whole neighborhood. This is a big problem, especially in town with close neighbors. Our cats have liberty of running on our 2 1/2 acres, but they seem to stay within that boundary naturally. Part of that boundary is under the bird feeder! But our birds are quick! Nature has a way of evening things out. <<<That's Jake over there, along with Gracie and Mrs. B, they go out all the time. ALL THE TIME, in and out. Day and night. They have their own doorbell.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND YOURS!
Outdoor cats don't like to be closed in, but if they had their own room they wouldn't care if they had only 50 square feet to wander in or a whole neighborhood. This is a big problem, especially in town with close neighbors. Our cats have liberty of running on our 2 1/2 acres, but they seem to stay within that boundary naturally. Part of that boundary is under the bird feeder! But our birds are quick! Nature has a way of evening things out. <<<That's Jake over there, along with Gracie and Mrs. B, they go out all the time. ALL THE TIME, in and out. Day and night. They have their own doorbell.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND YOURS!
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I understand your problem. I am an animal lover, and an SPCA volunteer. Each spring I raise (foster) kittens for our local SPCA. These products have worked wonders with most of the diffferent animals I have and foster. I believe they will be the answer for you too. Contech ScatMat Product - Contech Inc. I can buy them at most hardware stores in my area, but if you cant, just order online =)
Sorry to keep adding, but, I do have experience with cat matters....... I just wanted to add that dont be affraid to tell the neighbors to make the yard unhospitable to your cat. Tell them to use a broom to swat the cat or a water sprayer on a hose. At least it wont kill your cat, and the cat will soon learn that it is not friendly in their yard. Your cat will quickly learn not to go there that way. But, hopefully they will allow you to just purchase the products I have gave you the link to, and install it.
*Note: The devise that sprays water will need a conveinient shut off out of the way of the sensor, so as they can service the aviary without getting wet. Hope this helps.
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I built a cat run this year and my cats love it. It has a cat door so they can come and go as they please and I built a bunch of platforms and climby things for them with bird feeders just outside the run to look at. I looked at a bunch of the very expensive options and ended up buying two large dog runs on craigslist and stuck them together for one big 22' x 5' run. I made it harder on myself by customizing the size and shape to fit in a specific part of my yard, but overall it has worked well, added to my cats enjoyment and my piece of mind (too many unruly dogs, fast cars, and jerks in my neighborhood). They don't even meow at the back door anymore.
Kate51 is right, the only effective way of keeping your cat within its own territory is to either enclose the enire garden with netting, or make part of it into a run.
I work as a volunteer for Cats Protection, a national charity here in the UK and have worked with cats for the last 20 years. You cannot change their nature, but you can by doing this, give them the freedom they need, but keep your neighbours happy.
Ultra sonic devices can work, trouble is they are also heard by other animals in the neighbourhood, and can still cause reactions from their owners.
I recently had to move house, from a quiet rural area to a busy suberbon area with built up traffic. This was a major problem as I had 13 cats who had no road sense, so I covered the garden over.
I didnt use expensive materials, just treated wood, and the type of net used to catch Salmon. 2 years on, the netting is holding up well and no cats have escaped.
Good Luck, as there i snothing worse than falling out with neighbours over animals.
I work as a volunteer for Cats Protection, a national charity here in the UK and have worked with cats for the last 20 years. You cannot change their nature, but you can by doing this, give them the freedom they need, but keep your neighbours happy.
Ultra sonic devices can work, trouble is they are also heard by other animals in the neighbourhood, and can still cause reactions from their owners.
I recently had to move house, from a quiet rural area to a busy suberbon area with built up traffic. This was a major problem as I had 13 cats who had no road sense, so I covered the garden over.
I didnt use expensive materials, just treated wood, and the type of net used to catch Salmon. 2 years on, the netting is holding up well and no cats have escaped.
Good Luck, as there i snothing worse than falling out with neighbours over animals.
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