Needing DIY E Juice Help

[Banana Vap70]

This seems like it might be a good place to ask for some help for a new to DIY juice maker. I think I made a rookie mistake today. I ordered a kit from One Stop DIY, and the e-liquid blend that I got was 48mg nic 100% PG and then I got the 100% VG base liquid no nic. Well in my mind I am thinking that if I mix 1/2 the 48mg 100% PG with 1/2 0mg 100% VG that would give me the 24mg nic that I want. What I didn't think about was that I prefer a 30% PG / 70% VG. Based on having 18% flavoring that would make my mix 50% PG 32% VG and 18% flavoring (I'm not sure what the flavoring is considered.)


Is there any thing that I can do to my change the make up from the approximate 70PG / 30 VG (guessing the 18% flavoring is PV based?) to more of a 70VG / 30 PG blend? I thought about ordering 48mg nic 100% VG and then mixing the two together, but then what do I have 98mg nic at 50PG/50VG or 48mg nic at 50PG/50VG? Any advise?

 

[klynnn]

This calc should help with your measurements. eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

 

[Nu2Dis]

I would suggest ordering some PG unflavored, with zero nic. the calculators will give you the amounts you need to make your target percentages.

 

[zoiDman]

If you Only have 48mg PG Nicotine Base and a Bottle of Pure VG, then your Options are Kinda Fixed.

If your Target is 30% PG to 70% VG, then 70% is going to be VG and the 30% will be made up of the PG Nicotine Base and the Flavoring (if you are using PG Based Flavoring.

Just to make the Math Simpler, forget about the Flavoring for a Second.

If 30% of you Mix is the PG Nicotine Base @ 48mg, the 30% or 48mg => .3 x 48 = 14.4

So if you made Unflavored e-liquid at 30%PG to 70%VG you would end up with an 14.4mg e-Liquid. And if the Flavoring accounted for 18% of the Total Mix, the Nicotine Level would be 18% Lower than 14.4mg.

ie: 14.4 - (14.4 x.18) => 14.4 - 2.6 = 11.8mg

So, a 30%PG to 70%VG 18% Flavored Mix would be about 12mg

If 12mg is what you want to use, Your Golden. But if you want to use Any Other mg level, you have to Buy a Bottle of Pure PG.

 

[zoiDman]

BTW - Someone Double check my Math.

I haven't had much Coffee yet.

 

[Banana Vap70]

This calc should help with your measurements. eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator[/QUOTE

Thanks for the help, I have tried to use this calculator, but because I really have no idea what I am doing, I keep getting an error. I will keep trying to plug in numbers of what I think might work.

I think the problem is I know what I want the end point to be, and have some of the raw material but not all of the raw material to get there so I don't know what to plug into the calculator to simulate the other material that I need to make it work.

I am not sure that there is anything that I can do with the supplies I have on the way, other then just use them at the ratio's of PV/VG that gets me to the 24mg. It may end up being a lesson learned, but I still think there is a solution. I'll keep plugging idea's into the calculator and see if I come up with anything.

 

[zoiDman]

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I think the problem is I know what I want the end point to be, and have some of the raw material but not all of the raw material to get there so I don't know what to plug into the calculator to simulate the other material that I need to make it work.

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Here are Two Fundamental to doing a DIY Mix.

1 - The Nicotine Milligram Level is the Total amount of Nicotine in a Mix Divided by the Total Amount of Volume in Milliliters.

2 - If a Person has a Bottle of Pure PG and a Bottle of Pure VG, they Can make Any PG to VG Ratio they want at Any mg Level they want that is LESS than the mg Level of their Nicotine Base.

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Why don't you tell us what your Target Flavored e-Liquid you would like to make is, and I'm sure we can get you Pointed in the Right Direction.

exm: I want to Make 18mg 30%PG : 70%VG with about 20% Flavoring/Sweetener

 

[klynnn]

The reason you are probably getting error is you need more unflavored pg in the mix for 30/70 vg/pg. It is always a good idea to have both unflavored pg/vg on hand along with your preferred nic mg. Try using a 50/50 blend on the calc. That would give you 12mg to get you going.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I have tried to use this calculator, but because I really have no idea what I am doing, I keep getting an error.

The error is because you can't get the 30 VG/ 70 PG with what you have. The error is prolly "- quantity".
Best you can get if trying for 24 mg is 50/ 50 PG/ VG WITHOUT flavoring. Add to that the 18% PG based flavoring and you won't be able to get 50/ 50.

 

[zoiDman]

The reason you are probably getting error is you need more unflavored pg in the mix for 30/70 vg/pg. It is always a good idea to have both unflavored pg/vg on hand along with your preferred nic mg. Try using a 50/50 blend on the calc. That would give you 12mg to get you going.

A "50/50 blend" using 48mg Nicotine Base gives you 12mg?



How Does that Work?

 

[klynnn]

Sorry input was wrong still need the unflavored pg for 50/50. Should work at 45/55 pg/vg at 12mg. Works on calc check my figures pls. I also figured 20% flavor w/pg

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Would you be happy with 24 mg X 35 VG/ 65 PG with 18% flavoring?

 

[zoiDman]

Sorry input was wrong still need the unflavored pg for 50/50. Should work at 45/55 pg/vg at 12mg. Works on calc check my figures pls.

This is why It is Good to be able to Double Check an e-Liquid Calculators results with a Pencil and a piece of Paper.

Because I is Easy to put the wrong things In. Getting the Wrong things Out.

No worries. We have all done it.

 

[Banana Vap70]

I want to make 24mg 70%VG 30% PG blend.

What I ordered was 48mg nic in a PG base and then 100 VG base.

I see what you are saying about the 50/50 at 24mg, and buying extra 100% VG and going down to 12mg. I should have ordered the 48mg in the VG base and I'd be set, but looking back at the site now, it wasn't offered.

What I may end up having to do is just as you indicated either go down to 12mg or vape this at 24mg at 50/50. I ordered enough for about 120ml, so it's not an earth shattering amount. This just may be easier then trying to mix the 48mg PG base with another mg VG base (that I would of course have to order).

I know what to do next time, just order 99% nic in a VG base. Seems to me that you should order the nic in the predominate base that you want your mix.

 

[Banana Vap70]

I can make it work at about 25%PG 75% VG if I get 99mg nic in VG and extra no nic VG. I think.

It would look something like this - for 32ml of e juice I would have to take 8ml of the 48mg PG with 4ml of the 99mg VG and 20ml of no nic VG. This would be 24.38mg of 25%PG 75% VG.

I just messed around with the calculator. Yes I will have to purchase more supplies, which I would have to do eventually anyways and I'm sure will not go to waste.

 

[klynnn]

Check out wizard labs for supplies they have good prices and can usually mix any nic combination you want.

 

[Banana Vap70]

Thanks they have 120ml of the 100mg VG right now for $15.99, they are out of stock of larger quantity, but a great price.

 

[zoiDman]

I can make it work at about 25%PG 75% VG if I get 99mg nic in VG and extra no nic VG. I think.

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Just a Personal Perspective.

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[Banana Vap70]

Just a Personal Perspective.

You can get to where you want to go with what you have If you buy some Pure PG. PG is Cheap So I would suggest that you go that route verses buying 100mg Nicotine Base.

100mg Nicotine should be Treated with Respect. And making a Mistake and getting 100mg into your eye is Not something you want to do.

Wouldn't that make the nic level less then 24mg?

 

[rygen87]

Is diy any cheaper than buying it premade? Or is diy more for getting your perfect juice?