Nemesis Mod Clone Help!

[ndura1]

So I found a nice Mechanical mod that I purchased. Realizing I was in over my head I tried to cancel the order, but it shipped and the seller doesnt accept return (OF COURSE!) So now I am stuck with the purchase. Here is my ebay link Nemesis Mod SS Stillare RDA Sony VTC5 Trustfure Dual Charger Infinite Kit | eBay Now, the real reason why I dont want it is because I want to use an RBA (tank) not a RDA like the one I purchased it with. My two questions are in concern to it not blowing up in my face. I want to use it in the smallest mode (18350) 1. What batteries do you recommend to use in this mode. And 2. What tanks do you recommend? I am trying not to spend to much more money. Are there any other pieces I need besides the one it came with in order to keep it safe and usable with a tank set up.

I currently own the Mini Protank II and II, and the Protank III, if that helps at all. If anyone can recommend what to buy and how to keep this set up safe I would appreciate them to NO END. It's not that I am new to mods and mechs as I have seen them and used them, but I had no idea what I was getting into. Again I just want to make this set up as small as possible and use a tank instead of a RDA. The link again is Nemesis Mod SS Stillare RDA Sony VTC5 Trustfure Dual Charger Infinite Kit | eBay and it lists everything that came with the kid.

Thanks everyone!

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

You should have little to no risk running the type of resistances used by stock Protank 2/3 (the minis require ego) heads on nearly any battery, so don't be overly concerned about that.

That battery from the listing is kinda suspect though, never seen a VTC 5 with a label on it like that, could be wrong but looks sketch.

Some AW or Efest 18350 flat tops should work just fine for short mode.

Remove the extension tubes for 18500/18650 INCLUDING the tiny silver beauty ring, screw the protank on, adjust the adjustable 510 pin, put in a battery, screw in the button and

Nemesis clones are quite nice, you'll learn to love it, maybe even use that RDA some day!

 

[Doghead]

Yeah, I wondered about my "sony" bats that had stickers instead of just stamped or whatever. But, they have worked fine so far.
I really like my pulse g FT clone. Looks good on a nem and works great in "auto drip mode" with cotton wick.


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[ndura1]

Thanks Twosmokes. Appreciate it. So with the Protanks using 1.8 2.2 and 2.4 ohms is going to be okay? Even though they can be off by as many as .5-.8 ohms? Are there any other tanks you might recommend for the nemesis? Maybe ones that look good in a combo or ones you have a preference towards.
I am unsure of the batteries and will compare them to a reputable set but I am going to have to buy 18350s anyway. Hopefully that true fire charger works with them or I'll have to purchase that as we'll. Sorry to sound alike a complete ..... but what do you mean adjust the 510?

I think I'll really enjoy the nemesis too and was on the edge between this and a caravela. I will learn to use the rda but I am unsure how to use it and how long it actually last. I hear that you use a few drops take a few pulls and have to refill it again. I want something I can take with me and not worry about filling every few minutes. Maybe I'm wrong?

 

[sawtoothscream]

honestly I hate my protank on my mechs, just under performs IMO. carto tanks do work nice on them though.

Grab a russian or kayfun clone if you want a tank. they work great and produce good flavor.

 

[classwife]

Moved to APV Discussion from the Modding Forum

 

[23skidoo]

For 18350's I'd recommend these 2-
AW IMR 18350 3.7V 700mAh - Batteries these are rated at 6 amps.
Or
Efest Purple 10.5amp 18350 - 700mah - Flat top - 101 Vape these are 10.5 amps.

I've had good luck with both. Use this Ohm's Law Calculator and plug in 4.2 volts in the voltage area (this the max voltage mine come off my charger at, check your batteries fresh off your charger and use that number) and plug in your atty resistance in the resistance are, and then hit the Calculate button. This will give you your amp draw in the current area. Decide how close you want to run to the max amperage of your batteries and stay within that limit. 80% of the max amperage is a good safe maximum starting point. That way there is room for error, and that will add a safety cushion. If you like more safety lower your maximum percentage.

Most of the tanks I'd recommend are rebuildable. Are you comfortable building your own wick and coils. Do you have a digital multi meter to check your batteries and coil builds? If not, start with your Protanks with the 1.8 ohm coils and go from there. Either of those 18350's above will handle 1.8 ohm coils all day. A 1.8 coil will be drawing 2.33 amps at 4.2 volts. Your battery voltage will drop when you use it, and subsequently your amperage draw will drop as well.

Try not to run your batteries below +/- 3.2 volts. You should notice a drop in performance before then, but check with a meter every so often to get the feel of it. If you over discharge these batteries they could become damaged and unusable. I believe that is around 2.5 volts, so I recommend you stay well above that when you recharge them. You'll get the hang of it, don't sweat it.

 

[Bad Ninja]

In short:
With protanks, pretty much any IMR battery will be very safe.
Using an aw or efest 18350 will be safe as well.
Sub ohm vaping should be reserved for 18500 or 18650s

You have a nice set up.
You should enjoy it.
Congrats.

 

[ukeman]

Yep, you got a nice setup... and don't worry about the RDA... imo once you get into those if you are like so so many of us, you will love RDA and RDA/tanks too; the flavor is supreme.

For your purposes, I agree with the advice given; no problem, and guess at some point you will find the time to learn about expanding into drippers and lower resistances.

The Nemesis is my favorite mech of all... and oh, if this kit doesn't include it, look into the magnet fix for the Neme switch. I think it makes a great device even better.

 

[ndura1]

Thanks everyone! What does the magnet fix actually do?

Also do you guys have any RBA Genesis styles that you can recommend?

 

[ndura1]

Also I bought these batteries. Efest IMR batteries Are they okay?

And I just purchased an RSST RBA with 28 gauge coil and wick. I have rebuilt Protanks, but thats about it. Think I should be good now?

 

[ka724ka]

The magnet is used for replacing with spring on the fire button, it ideally makes smoother movement than spring.


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[Johnny Phatsaqs]

honestly I hate my protank on my mechs, just under performs IMO. carto tanks do work nice on them though.

Grab a russian or kayfun clone if you want a tank. they work great and produce good flavor.

Correct. I'm running a Kayfun 3.1 on my Nemesis (both hcigar) and absolutely love it. I'm thinking of buying an exact duplicate of this set up so I can run a couple flavors at once. If I had it to do over again, I never would have bought my 2 authentic patriots, cronus clone, hcigar Nimbus, hcigar stingray or hcigar caravela.

This Nemesis/Kayfun is the best set up I've used.

 

[porkchopbun]

Also I bought these batteries. Efest IMR batteries Are they okay?

And I just purchased an RSST RBA with 28 gauge coil and wick. I have rebuilt Protanks, but thats about it. Think I should be good now?

For the same price, get the Sony VCT 5 or 4 from a legit vendor like RTD. I assume the safety of your face and hands are more important than saving a few bucks.

On the magnet issue, most clones of Nemesis comes with weak springs so when you sit it down unlock, it will fire. You have two options, get magnets or goto Home Depot, ask the person with orange apron if he/she feels like talking to you that day, ask him/her where the mini copper springs are, cut it to same specifications as the Nemesis springs. It will have harder throw than magnets. After this, you will be able to do finger pushups.

Suggestion:
Since you can build Pro tanks, you can look into clone Kayfuns lite plus or even get into drippers. I understand you wan to save $, but you might take advantage of your equipment.

A good dripper should be under 20 bucks, like clone Trident v2 etc.
A good Clone Kayun should be under $40 shipped. There are cheaper variants but I can't vouch for them. I only used the Ehpro model

"Think I should be good now? "
Purchase an ohm reader if you don't have one: cheaper on ebay shipped.
Cartomizer and Atomizer Ohm Meter

I'm sure you already know about battery safety, ohm's law.
GL

 

[ukeman]

I've been doing mechanicals only for the last couple years, and lots of them.

What has driven me close to nuts if it weren't for the Nemesis ( i prefer brass), are the top caps and button switches.
Every mechanical, unless its a new pinless pos. design (BCV Surfrider or XXIX, Fusion hybrid connector) will have a top cap that has (or not) and adjustable pin that connects the atomizer pos post to the batt positive end, and usually a bottom cap that has the switch which connects to the neg end of the batt to fire the mod.

How these are designed to work, and how they actually work is the "functionality" factor of a mod (aside from tube metal and design).
Battery rattle, misfires etc, how the batt snugs up to the contacts, is where design comes in... and why I won't buy any mech mod no matter how great it looks, unless I know for sure it actually works as designed.

Nemesis top cap will snug to the atomizer connector, but what makes it the best is the bottom switch will snug upwards when you thread it in to snug the battery without depending on the top cap pin to make contact (or not depending on variable batt lengths).

The Stingray is supposed to be great because it has a similar (but more complex switch and comes with magnets)... but i've read that its a crap shoot if you have a good button... so i've left it alone for now.

so, you will get some crunchiness on the Neme button, and the magnets help, but just know imo there's no better mech system than what the Neme puts out...

imo.

 

[ndura1]

For the same price, get the Sony VCT 5 or 4 from a legit vendor like RTD. I assume the safety of your face and hands are more important than saving a few bucks.
A good dripper should be under 20 bucks, like clone Trident v2 etc.
A good Clone Kayun should be under $40 shipped. There are cheaper variants but I can't vouch for them. I only used the Ehpro model

"Think I should be good now? "
Purchase an ohm reader if you don't have one: cheaper on ebay shipped.
Cartomizer and Atomizer Ohm Meter

I'm sure you already know about battery safety, ohm's law.
GL

As stated in my first post, I really dont want to use a dripper unless I am at home. I want something that I can fill and use throughout the day at work or when out. I purchased the RSST and a Kayfun Lite from a store I have used often.

As for the batteries, I have also bought them from a reputable store. I am not willing to skimp on the batteries or any other piece, I just dont want to drop another $100 bucks. So are these batteries okay (Purple Efest IMR 18350 10.5 amp Flat Top batteries) as suggested by the first poster.

I do own an ohms reader so I am okay in that department.

Do I need the get this spring or magnetic switch right away, or can I get a feel for the set up and then make the call?

Anything else I should know?
I do appreciate all the posts and guidance/help and am excited for this device

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

As stated in my first post, I really dont want to use a dripper unless I am at home. I want something that I can fill and use throughout the day at work or when out. I purchased the RSST and a Kayfun Lite from a store I have used often.

As for the batteries, I have also bought them from a reputable store. I am not willing to skimp on the batteries or any other piece, I just dont want to drop another $100 bucks. So are these batteries okay (Purple Efest IMR 18350 10.5 amp Flat Top batteries) as suggested by the first poster.

I do own an ohms reader so I am okay in that department.

Do I need the get this spring or magnetic switch right away, or can I get a feel for the set up and then make the call?

Anything else I should know?
I do appreciate all the posts and guidance/help and am excited for this device

Those batteries are fine.

The magnet upgrade for the switch is purely optional, not necessary in any way, it just improves the feel/operation of the switch.

Here's what the nemmy looks like in short mode (18350) with both an RSST and Kayfun Lite/Russian Clone.

 

[ukeman]

Efest is an ok safe batt for any resistances... IMR is safe chem/ hi drain etc so no worries about going low resistance.
I believe Sony and Panasonic and a couple other brands are "better" than Efest, but while batt quality is super important they are accessories that you can pick up along the way.
AW IMR is a great brand and my favorite (the 1600 mah 18650 is 15c rated btw = good and better performing than the 2000mah).

the magnet is pretty cheap but access to a set plus shipping makes combining in an order a good thing, where you can find them.

I just ordered a 10pak from FT for $2.50 lol... specific Nem magnets are sold by vendors up to like $15 for 2.
Some of the cheap ones don't come with separators and will crack easily when you try to pry them apart so be careful.
If you find you Neme button is crunchy, or come loose or will not stand upright without firing when loaded with an atomizer, you need magnets or spring change as noted above.

There's lots of tricks to little glitches in any mod... just ask here or search other threads.

I go on and on for a couple reasons:
1. I'm vape crazy
2. for others that are interested

you are most welcome

ps: i think you've hinted you know about Ohms law, batt safety etc... just for good measure, don't think about going sub ohms with an 18350... or at least be careful as it IS done a lot.
Even the best ( AW IMR ie.) are not rated more than 10c i think less.
I never use them anymore because they don't last long enough; i chain vape and go through at least 3 18650's a day.

 

[ndura1]

Those batteries are fine.

The magnet upgrade for the switch is purely optional, not necessary in any way, it just improves the feel/operation of the switch.

Here's what the nemmy looks like in short mode (18350) with both an RSST and Kayfun Lite/Russian Clone.

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Excellent set up! That is exactly what I am trying to go for. I will probably pick up the magnet sometime soon then.

 

[ndura1]

Efest is an ok safe batt for any resistances... IMR is safe chem/ hi drain etc so no worries about going low resistance.
I believe Sony and Panasonic and a couple other brands are "better" than Efest, but while batt quality is super important they are accessories that you can pick up along the way.
AW IMR is a great brand and my favorite (the 1600 mah 18650 is 15c rated btw = good and better performing than the 2000mah).

the magnet is pretty cheap but access to a set plus shipping makes combining in an order a good thing, where you can find them.

I just ordered a 10pak from FT for $2.50 lol... specific Nem magnets are sold by vendors up to like $15 for 2.
Some of the cheap ones don't come with separators and will crack easily when you try to pry them apart so be careful.
If you find you Neme button is crunchy, or come loose or will not stand upright without firing when loaded with an atomizer, you need magnets or spring change as noted above.

There's lots of tricks to little glitches in any mod... just ask here or search other threads.

I go on and on for a couple reasons:
1. I'm vape crazy
2. for others that are interested

you are most welcome

ps: i think you've hinted you know about Ohms law, batt safety etc... just for good measure, don't think about going sub ohms with an 18350... or at least be careful as it IS done a lot.
Even the best ( AW IMR ie.) are not rated more than 10c i think less.
I never use them anymore because they don't last long enough; i chain vape and go through at least 3 18650's a day.

I tried reading up on sub ohm vaping and i kinda got a little lost. Its when you vape on extremely low amount of ohm? I am not trying to sub ohm, I just want a set up that I can tinker with and use like I would my itaste and evod. I love the aspect of building and tinkering with the devices that helped me quit smoking analogs. Its the geek in me and it's a great little hobby.

I am trying to just stay safe and how a nice little set up. Whether I used my nemesis with my protank III with 2.2 ohm coils or build my own with my RSST. I dont want anything blowing up in my face, I just want a decent set up that vapes nicely and can be improved, tinkered, and work for a decent amount of time.