Never assume youtube tutorials have smart people teaching proper methods.

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EmeraldLeo1982

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You mean it won't kill me in a mushroomy cloud of doominess if I use a mech mod and get a short!? No jokes, serious question, kinda lol. I know there's no mushromy cloud of doominess, but I'm rather scared of using a mech for that reason. I know how to wrap a decent coil, but I'm scared(largely in part to all the talk of exploding batteries) that if something were to happen I'd likely end up covered from head to toe in green acidy goo screaming about my face melting off as I run down the street.
 

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Oh god, I couldn't agree more then.
I'm not violent, but there is this rage that builds when I used to see his hipster face and hear his hipster voice.
It's like he talks that way to get you to that level. "Herm herm herm merr merr merr" OPEN YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU SPEAK MAN!
So annoying, MAKE A DIFFERENT FACE ALREADY!

I personally think he should stick to plug and play items, i.e. cartos and ego's. I just looked up to see if there was a black hole or an eclipse, seeing as he's doing sub-ohm. I'd love to see something vent on him. Kids a toolchest.

Was gonna say, can't be my S/O hero! Whew!

Relax and have a quick toot :laugh:
 

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I don't know about you but once I wrap a few coils with a specific sized kanthal then I get to the point that I kind of know what the resistance will be even before measuring it and build them without measuring, but, if you are guiding others who presumably don't know, then you should feel obligated to point out the potential problems and risks that exist and also give the required basic knowledge needed, just because you know enough that it becomes safe for you to assume, doesn't mean the person you are teaching does know anything at all about it and just showing how to twist a coil without giving the background info also necessary is negligent and a bad teacher...

understanding ohms and resistance and the hows and whys of what affect it has is required knowledge to be able to build coils imho
 

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There is a very popular guy on youtube with decent video editing skills that may pass off to some that he knows what he is doing. I have seen him on more then one video not check his Ohms on rebuildable and claim them as sub Ohm. That is a recipe for disaster.

Some people that broadcast tutorials need to spend more time on proper building and less time making professional looking videos.

Dude whats with all of the negative vibes lately? Im giving you an assignment you have to make two positive threads for every rant;-) try this for 15 min every evening empty your mind and repeat ohmmmmmm.......ohmmmmmmm...........ohmmmmmmmm
 
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Mike Sheda

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Dude whats with all of the negative vibes lately? Im giving you an assignment you have to make two positive threads for every rant;-) try this for 15 min every evening empty your mind and repeat ohmmmmmm.......ohmmmmmmm...........ohmmmmmmmm
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I bet you guys are one of the first to click on his videos when he posts them just so you can tell the empty room you're in everything he does wrong.

Seriously, there are so many options out there in the vaping community, it never occurred to me to make posts on stuff I hate. I don't care for the "tooting" but he is probably a pretty cool dude which this world is in short supply of. And the person attacking him for the notion that he is a hipster or whatever - I'll judge you by your post and say you are probably an annoying stick in the mud.

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have to ask this question, regarding resistance.
If you accidentally rebuilt a coild that is way too high or way too low resistance, is there any danger/risk beside performance?

Yes. Very much yes. As in fire and explosion kind of danger, if you are way too low and running a mechanical mod.

ALWAYS check your coils resistance. Always know the C rating of your battery and how to calculate the maximum amps continuous discharge. (Helpful hint, if you are not a nincompoop, you will aim for 50% of this maximum value.) Know how to use Ohm's law.

Small rant: There are too many idiots building sub-ohm coils that have no idea what they are doing. The margins for error get very tight when you are in the sub-ohm realm. As another poster pointed out in another thread a few days ago, "If you you have a drop of .1 or .2 ohms on a 2.4 ohm coil, you are plenty safe. If you have a .2 ohm drop on a .5 ohm coil, you probably are in a danger zone."
 
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You mean it won't kill me in a mushroomy cloud of doominess if I use a mech mod and get a short!? No jokes, serious question, kinda lol. I know there's no mushromy cloud of doominess, but I'm rather scared of using a mech for that reason. I know how to wrap a decent coil, but I'm scared(largely in part to all the talk of exploding batteries) that if something were to happen I'd likely end up covered from head to toe in green acidy goo screaming about my face melting off as I run down the street.

So far, the only really horrible accidents have been with people stacking batteries. (NEVER do this!) But the dangers of batteries are very real, a little healthy fear is in order:

Exploding Mods Update - February 2012
 

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Yes. Very much yes. As in fire and explosion kind of danger, if you are way too low and running a mechanical mod.

ALWAYS check your coils resistance. Always know the C rating of your battery and how to calculate the safe amps continuous discharge. (Helpful hint, if you are not a nincompoop, you will aim for 50% of this maximum value.) Know how to use Ohm's law.

Small rant: There are too many idiots building sub-ohm coils that have no idea what they are doing. The margins for error get very tight when you are in the sub-ohm realm. As another poster pointed out in another thread a few days ago, "If you you have a drop of .1 or .2 ohms on a 2.4 ohm coil, you are plenty safe. If you have a .2 ohm drop on a .5 ohm coil, you probably are in a danger zone."

Even smaller rant if you were shooting for .5 and ended up with .3 ,a drop of .2 ohms as you stated. You would be pulling 14 amps. If you are using MNKE or Sony batteries you are well with in the safe working limits of your batteries.

Thats beside the point my mini rant is there are to many idiots calling people idiots
 

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The problem is that on-camera talent and brains do not always ... some might say rarely do ... exist in the same package. Some of the most knowledgeable people I know would be terrible on camera, not the least reason for which is they would explain things in terms most people wouldn't follow, or they would explain them so fully the video would be too long and complex.

Smarter people tend to enjoy anonymity more as well, in my experience heh
 

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Even smaller rant if you were shooting for .5 and ended up with .3 ,a drop of .2 ohms as you stated. You would be pulling 14 amps. If you are using MNKE or Sony batteries you are well with in the safe working limits of your batteries.

Thats beside the point my mini rant is there are to many idiots calling people idiots

Buzz - I never said it couldn't be done with an appropriate margin of safety. My rant is that too many people hear about sub-ohms, decide to do it, and have no idea what the safe working limit of their batteries might be. My general experience is that far too many people (obviously not all of them) simply have no idea that that big red battery in their mod has the power of a small hand grenade if things fail catastrophically.

I have no issue with the well informed and well educated person who has a full understanding of their gear and risks (and proper risk mitigation) vaping sub-ohm. But when I hear about people not testing their coils, or not understanding that a hard short can stress a battery to failure, I worry.

ETA: I would certainly think that those who vape sub-ohm and DO understand these things would also worry. If not simply for the safety of others, then because of the real possibility that if someone does some foolish thing and ends up killing themselves, it will be a hell of a lot harder to find nice mechanical mods.
 
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Buzz - I never said it couldn't be done with an appropriate margin of safety. My rant is that too many people hear about sub-ohms, decide to do it, and have no idea what the safe working limit of their batteries might be. My general experience is that far too many people (obviously not all of them) simply have no idea that that big red battery in their mod has the power of a small hand grenade if things fail catastrophically.

I have no issue with the well informed and well educated person who has a full understanding of their gear and risks (and proper risk mitagation) vaping sub-ohm. But when I hear about people not testing their coils, or not understanding that a hard short can stress a battery to failure, I worry.

I know what you mean I should of not got short with you I apologize. What you were saying is very valid its just that any noob or inexperienced person reading your post most likely would of quit reading at Idiot. Its my crusade to help these kids do it right I get frustrated at the negative posts.
 
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